Nohbudy wrote:Some comments I got:
1.) Why would the Orphan die from being visited by multiple groups? Instead, why not force the people who meet to attack each other (i.e. Vigilante v.s. Mafioso)?
2.) For Consigliere, you could say "Your target has no relationships. He must be a Orphan". Best I could think of...
3.)What role would he become if the Mafia found him? Mafioso and Godfather are unique, so all I can suggest is: If found by a Godfather with no Mafioso, he becomes Mafioso. If a Mafioso finds him, the Mafioso becomes GF and the Orphan takes his spot.
4.) 1 win = Adopted / 5 wins = New Parents
5.)What happens when you're jailed and executed? Is that just like a WW attack, where the Orphan dies?
Sircrow56 wrote:how about unless there is mafioso orphan becomes and if there is no gf let the mafioso become letting orphan become mafioso
iEsdeath wrote:Wow. This is actually a pretty good role. I'd love to play as this and see it in the future of ToS!
doyouknowanah wrote:I like it!
Hurricat wrote:This is interesting... it would allow killing roles to not only "recruit" new faction members, but also to know the exact identity of the duplicate role to increase their win chances further. I like it, but I feel like it should be a unique role as it could cause a lot balance issues if there were multiples.
pretzellover33 wrote:Hooboy
2 Arsonists... 2 Serial Killers... Who know each other...
That's frightening.
I think it would be too overpowered. They can coordinate their attacks and decimate the whole town.
Lizzie0 wrote:Thats the whole point of the role and to be honest they wont be able to coordinate their attacks in case of spy.
Jtgop wrote:The Consort reminds you of your mother
The escort reminds you of your mother
OzyOzers wrote:I like this more than any other suggested roles so far. First time in human history being an orphan would be fun.
Kiyosen wrote:When I saw this role, I instantly though of Jtgop's Fearful role...especially this part:Jtgop wrote:The Consort reminds you of your mother
The escort reminds you of your mother
Motherly figures like children, so why not make them able to take them in? (lol, this is not really a suggestion, unless you want to treat it that way. That thought just suddenly came up when I saw the name "Orphan".)
Also, I like the Investigator's results going with the Amnesiac because both of them act the same way(they both actually choose a side).
Overall, the role seems interesting and brings about new strategies for killing AND investigative(depending on which investigation result you choose) roles.
Baconinja wrote:If you start letting non-killing roles take the orphan in, why not let any role who visits take them in? (besides jailor) Town gets the short end of the stick with killing roles because usually it's a 50/50 for vigilante, but mafia and neutral killing always exist. Admittedly, town would almost always get the orphan, but 2 serial killers are OP if it happens.
AsylumShaco wrote:I like this role aswell. But why only killing roles? 1.) Shouldn´t town have more chance to grab the Orphan other than having a trigger happy vigilante shot at him?
2.)Perhaps Escort, BG or Doctor would be able to take him in aswell. (Not all 3 but maybe 1).
3.)And yes he needs to be Unique.
4.)Since the one who take him in knows who he is but not the other way around it´s not that much different from when evil roles normally find out their allies. (Also transporter/witch can mess things up too!)
5.)That also means the Orphan might accidentally get his ''parent'' hanged during day if the SK/Arso wont tell him who they are.
6.)Mafia is another story since he will be added in their list. Would be kinda OP in all any mode with 6 mafias and they find the Orphan right away. Maybe if the mafia team is full he get to be reserve and can´t do anything/vote until 1 maffia is dead. Just to avoid getting over the max 6 team.
OzyOzers wrote:Maybe to make Orphan a bit weaker. Orphan dies if their parent die. Like vig shoothimself of feeling guilty. So it motivates orphan to do everything he can to not let his parent die.
1.) No, town is too OP according to Ranked statistics.
2.) ^
3.) He already is.
4.) This would be some of the fun of it.
5.) Kinda like the witch, or as I said before, their own teammate (SK and Arso), also
6.) Thanks for pointing that out! I didnt realize that. Hm well I dont know how to edit it because having the Orphan wait to be mafia wouldnt be fun, and an extra mafia wouldnt be fun either.....
AsylumShaco wrote:Well no one said anything about adding him to Ranked/Normal games. He would be fun for All Any and Costum. Some roles doesn´t exist in Normal/Ranked mode and that is fine. I agree town is a bit OP in Normal and Ranked atm so i usualy play All Any since it´s more fun and more of a guessing game. Alot easier to lie and trick without getting cought:)
OzyOzers wrote:Orphan should know who their parents is. It would make sense, if the parent from that moment can gain benefit from Orphan. And if Orphan dies with parent, it would motivate Orphan to help parent with 100%. Like exe wants to lynch someone, Orphan must not let someone die.
agigabyte wrote:I say Escort (Realizes they are family-less and rather than role blocking takes them in as a sort of Aunt figure and they become random town[I always Imagine escort as being in mid twenties]), Doc (Has a small bit of history of psychiatry and takes them in as an apprentice with 3 heals), and Consort (Realizes that they lack family and rather than role blocking they take them in as a sort of sisterly figure and they would become random maf) and if Exe gets them as target they are notified of the person being an orphan and changes targets.
OzyOzers wrote:Orphan should know who their parents is. It would make sense, if the parent from that moment can gain benefit from Orphan. And if Orphan dies with parent, it would motivate Orphan to help parent with 100%. Like exe wants to lynch someone, Orphan must not let someone die.
OzyOzers wrote:About last comment with game-throwers and skypers. That's against the rules and is bannable with every role. I can be mafioso and tell everyone who is GF, it's the same thing.
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