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Re: XX8 | KH:FM.2 | Day 5 (Destiny Islands)

Postby TheDebil » Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:28 pm

TheDebil wrote:jackson can't be witch unless you can think a way he can figure that potato and 3cheers aren't ti as witch

or 3cheers is
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Re: XX8 | KH:FM.2 | Day 5 (Destiny Islands)

Postby Crimson97 » Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:30 pm

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Jackson/ED This'd be a pretty hard buss but possible ig.

These mean Jackson is witch bussing mafia.
ED/Debil
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Re: XX8 | KH:FM.2 | Day 5 (Destiny Islands)

Postby Crimson97 » Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:31 pm

TheDebil wrote:jackson can't be witch unless you can think a way he can figure that potato and 3cheers aren't ti as witch

The only way they can be scum is if 3cheers was ti.
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Re: XX8 | KH:FM.2 | Day 5 (Destiny Islands)

Postby UzayAltay » Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:32 pm

TheDebil wrote:jackson can't be witch unless you can think a way he can figure that potato and 3cheers aren't ti as witch
Umm Why?
As I remember they claimed before massclaim, which means they may claimed without thinking massclaim
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Re: XX8 | KH:FM.2 | Day 5 (Destiny Islands)

Postby TheDebil » Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:34 pm

Crimson97 wrote:
TheDebil wrote:jackson can't be witch unless you can think a way he can figure that potato and 3cheers aren't ti as witch

The only way they can be scum is if 3cheers was ti.

i know i fixed it
im still running with the massclaim list in my brain so im assuming 3scheers isnt ti by default
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Re: XX8 | KH:FM.2 | Day 5 (Destiny Islands)

Postby TheDebil » Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:35 pm

UzayAltay wrote:
TheDebil wrote:jackson can't be witch unless you can think a way he can figure that potato and 3cheers aren't ti as witch
Umm Why?
As I remember they claimed before massclaim, which means they may claimed without thinking massclaim

ok you are right
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Re: XX8 | KH:FM.2 | Day 5 (Destiny Islands)

Postby Crimson97 » Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:38 pm

TheDebil wrote:
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TheDebil wrote:jackson can't be witch unless you can think a way he can figure that potato and 3cheers aren't ti as witch

The only way they can be scum is if 3cheers was ti.

i know i fixed it
im still running with the massclaim list in my brain so im assuming 3scheers isnt ti by default

Why didn't you mention any of the other cit claims?
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Re: XX8 | KH:FM.2 | Day 5 (Destiny Islands)

Postby TheDebil » Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:39 pm

Crimson97 wrote:
TheDebil wrote:
Crimson97 wrote:
TheDebil wrote:jackson can't be witch unless you can think a way he can figure that potato and 3cheers aren't ti as witch

The only way they can be scum is if 3cheers was ti.

i know i fixed it
im still running with the massclaim list in my brain so im assuming 3scheers isnt ti by default

Why didn't you mention any of the other cit claims?

jackson retracted when the only unclaimed was potato
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Re: XX8 | KH:FM.2 | Day 5 (Destiny Islands)

Postby TheDebil » Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:40 pm

TheDebil wrote:
Crimson97 wrote:
TheDebil wrote:
Crimson97 wrote:
TheDebil wrote:jackson can't be witch unless you can think a way he can figure that potato and 3cheers aren't ti as witch

The only way they can be scum is if 3cheers was ti.

i know i fixed it
im still running with the massclaim list in my brain so im assuming 3scheers isnt ti by default

Why didn't you mention any of the other cit claims?

jackson retracted when the only unclaimed was potato

my assumption was if he is witch he is hoping to bait out a ti to cc it but i forgot a massclaim wasn't really in order people from the poe were the only ones required but it ended up being literally everyone
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Re: XX8 | KH:FM.2 | Day 5 (Destiny Islands)

Postby xXIllegalPotatoXx » Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:41 pm

Bussing just doesn't make sense on mylo at all. I think we can safely say a jackson/ED team is impossible.

IMO there's no world where we lynch outside of ED/Jackson. There's at least one scum in the pool no matter what, either Jackson's legit and ED is witch or Jackson's lying and ED almost confirmed town. Any other PoE has more than two people in it, meaning less than a 50% chance of success. Deep reads on these two incoming.
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Re: XX8 | KH:FM.2 | Day 5 (Destiny Islands)

Postby TheDebil » Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:43 pm

potato if you are town you better id rather not have an elusive 2.0 and get fucked after we started so well
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Re: XX8 | KH:FM.2 | Day 5 (Destiny Islands)

Postby xXIllegalPotatoXx » Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:46 pm

TheDebil wrote:potato if you are town you better id rather not have an elusive 2.0 and get fucked after we started so well


I actually have time to sit down and play now so I guarantee you I won't be another elusive
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Re: XX8 | KH:FM.2 | Day 5 (Destiny Islands)

Postby xXIllegalPotatoXx » Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:13 pm

Jackson: Dear lord it's an 18 page ISO. Scanning...

TBH it looks like he's tryharding a bit too much to be towny. Examples:

JacksonVirgo wrote:
TheDebil wrote:
JacksonVirgo wrote:
TheDebil wrote:
JacksonVirgo wrote:It's almost 2am for me can't post for much longer, I'll revote when I have to go though since I am not too sure what souls logic there was

to not quickhammer
he's been clear with this point yesterday and today

I guess so but whoever would quickhammer them would be scum regardless and we'd have a second outted scum.

if scum hammer town i think the game would end and having a second outed scum wouldn't matter

From my perspective that will never be the case.


Also, some of his statements are contradictory...

JacksonVirgo wrote:
Soulshade55r wrote:I think "baiting" the witch would be generally pointless anyway

It's not pointless at all, lynching someone based on 3P equity is pointless for now especially with a LO/JK alive but I figured doing that to find the witch and then finding the mafia would be an ideal play. Considering if we fuck up too much consort/witch can control the vigi and get 2KPN for an earlier loss for us.


Then proceeds to try for a witch push on ED? I suppose that's excusable since we're at MyLo and a confirmed witch would be a much better than a mislynch.

I'm not sure what to make of the confidence in an ED lynch. On the one hand, it looks like tunneling, which is usually town indicative, and looks good that they're so focused on him that they're willing to defy Soul for it. On the other hand, they could just be desperate.

JacksonVirgo wrote:JK tonight you wifom between me and someone else. I will always be on you.
Attacking either one of us is their only shot and hopefully we either block a kill or catch one of the mafia


If ED is witch, they're a really dumb witch.

Jackson's voting patterns are gross. They literally always end up on a town wagon no matter what.

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Multiple selfclear attempts look bad.

EvilDeanius0 wrote:I'm fine with lynching potato. If he flips witch like I suspect then I'm clear


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EvilDeanius0 wrote:Does anyone here believe I'm genuinely stupid enough to control Crimson the last 2 nights?

Well whoever's witch was stupid enough to do that so...

So I'm clear then


EvilDeanius0 wrote:Can we speedrun now


:BlobStop:

we legit just mislynched on a 'speedrun', and now it's mylo.

kosmo push seems pure.

EvilDeanius0 wrote:Does anybody not want to yeet Uzay?


????

ED's voting record looks marginally better. They got on the Sparking CFD, but if we were clearing people entirely based off D1 and D2, we'd be clearing more townslots than we have.

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Re: XX8 | KH:FM.2 | Day 5 (Destiny Islands)

Postby xXIllegalPotatoXx » Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:19 pm

Conclusions from my own wall:

Jackson's behavior makes sense from a town PoV. ED's behavior doesn't. Then again, ED's behavior doesn't exactly fit the bill perfectly for witch, though with the way they've been paying I can see them endlessly controlling the vig to hopefully get a kill.

Jackson's voting record is literal trash, but everything else is fine. ED's day behavior is literal trash, but everything else is passable.

I'm not super convinced but.../vote ED

Still open to change.
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Re: XX8 | KH:FM.2 | Day 5 (Destiny Islands)

Postby EvilDeanius0 » Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:24 pm

xXIllegalPotatoXx wrote:Conclusions from my own wall:

Jackson's behavior makes sense from a town PoV. ED's behavior doesn't. Then again, ED's behavior doesn't exactly fit the bill perfectly for witch, though with the way they've been paying I can see them endlessly controlling the vig to hopefully get a kill.

Jackson's voting record is literal trash, but everything else is fine. ED's day behavior is literal trash, but everything else is passable.

I'm not super convinced but.../vote ED

Still open to change.

My self clears make sense logically
My day play has been good D2 onwards
And me making those actions as witch makes no sense.

Also if you're town you need to be super convinced, because if you're wrong you lose us the game
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Re: XX8 | KH:FM.2 | Day 5 (Destiny Islands)

Postby xXIllegalPotatoXx » Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:28 pm

EvilDeanius0 wrote:
xXIllegalPotatoXx wrote:Conclusions from my own wall:

Jackson's behavior makes sense from a town PoV. ED's behavior doesn't. Then again, ED's behavior doesn't exactly fit the bill perfectly for witch, though with the way they've been paying I can see them endlessly controlling the vig to hopefully get a kill.

Jackson's voting record is literal trash, but everything else is fine. ED's day behavior is literal trash, but everything else is passable.

I'm not super convinced but.../vote ED

Still open to change.

My self clears make sense logically
My day play has been good D2 onwards
And me making those actions as witch makes no sense.

Also if you're town you need to be super convinced, because if you're wrong you lose us the game


we're still not within hammer territory. that would take three town votes and the entire mafia. I've made my vote and I'm sticking to it unless new evidence surfaces.
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Re: XX8 | KH:FM.2 | Day 5 (Destiny Islands)

Postby TheDebil » Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:48 pm

its interesting how potato says a lot more worse things about jackson but lands on evild.
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Re: XX8 | KH:FM.2 | Day 5 (Destiny Islands)

Postby UzayAltay » Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:52 pm

TBH Potato's read lacks some logic in context.
Or they failed to explain it in A way I could understand.
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Re: XX8 | KH:FM.2 | Day 5 (Destiny Islands)

Postby TheDebil » Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:59 pm

UzayAltay wrote:TBH Potato's read lacks some logic in context.
Or they failed to explain it in A way I could understand.

what part exactly lacks logic to you?
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Re: XX8 | KH:FM.2 | Day 5 (Destiny Islands)

Postby TheDebil » Fri Jun 26, 2020 2:03 pm

potato, can you show some towny dayposts from jackson? because from your examples my assumption would be

"jackson has garbage votes AND dayplay, and evild has garbage dayplay but votes are good

but im voting evild"

which seems contradictory
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Re: XX8 | KH:FM.2 | Day 5 (Destiny Islands)

Postby UzayAltay » Fri Jun 26, 2020 2:07 pm

TheDebil wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:TBH Potato's read lacks some logic in context.
Or they failed to explain it in A way I could understand.

what part exactly lacks logic to you?

Jackson contradicting with self - tryharding
ED- self-clear
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Re: XX8 | KH:FM.2 | Day 5 (Destiny Islands)

Postby xXIllegalPotatoXx » Fri Jun 26, 2020 2:12 pm

TheDebil wrote:potato, can you show some towny dayposts from jackson? because from your examples my assumption would be

"jackson has garbage votes AND dayplay, and evild has garbage dayplay but votes are good

but im voting evild"

which seems contradictory


Well firstly, I was more referencing the fact that even the worst of Jackson's posts, which I isolated, are reasonable from a town PoV.

Here's some towny jackson posts.

JacksonVirgo wrote:@Host, if a cit is redirected will they appear as visiting a target?


Jackson doesn't need to ask this if he's mafia, especially if he has access to a discord chat.

I also found this post which justifies the contradictory post I put in my wall.

JacksonVirgo wrote:
TheDebil wrote:even if you think its scummy evild is not likely to be mafia only witch
and witch isn't relevant to this game as much as mafia is

Except wrong. It wasn’t important yesterday but now if we mislynch twice mafia can win with the vigilante.


JacksonVirgo wrote:Actually I've had a revelation. What if the redirector found the consort?


Jackson doesn't do this as maf unless he's bussing, which maf obviously can't afford.

JacksonVirgo wrote:I'm off to bed, please don't attempt to speedrun the game.


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Re: XX8 | KH:FM.2 | Day 5 (Destiny Islands)

Postby xXIllegalPotatoXx » Fri Jun 26, 2020 2:13 pm

UzayAltay wrote:
TheDebil wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:TBH Potato's read lacks some logic in context.
Or they failed to explain it in A way I could understand.

what part exactly lacks logic to you?

Jackson contradicting with self - tryharding
ED- self-clear


The contradiction isn't the tryharding, they're two separate posts. Also, the contradiction resolves.

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Re: XX8 | KH:FM.2 | Day 5 (Destiny Islands)

Postby UzayAltay » Fri Jun 26, 2020 2:18 pm

I tried to mean and instead with
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Re: XX8 | KH:FM.2 | Day 4 (Realm of Darkness)

Postby xXIllegalPotatoXx » Fri Jun 26, 2020 2:20 pm

EvilDeanius0 wrote:
TheDebil wrote:
EvilDeanius0 wrote:
TheDebil wrote:
EvilDeanius0 wrote:Why is Kosmo not in your PoE btw.

/vote Elusive

not mafia due to push on sparking
not witch due to bad play today

If I decide to ever start playing badly can I also be excluded from the PoE

Kosmo seems too prideful to play this bad. For someone who constantly says that uzay and elusive is trolling i would be dissapointed and make.fun of kosmo for this.

But they're playing badly regardless of alignment so why would pride matter


Attacking people so directly is usually something scum avoids.

EvilDeanius0 wrote:
kosmo16 wrote:
EvilDeanius0 wrote:
kosmo16 wrote:
EvilDeanius0 wrote:Finally

/vote Kosmo


That's a bad timing for your vote ED. I think you will be next lynch.

/vote ED

In what way is voting the person I've wanted dead since D1 bad timing?


Then just vote me at the start of the day. Why you were waiting for potato?

I wasnt waiting for potato, i waited for other people to agree to the wagon. Voting someone by myself does nothing


the idea behind this makes sense

I'm stopping here becasue I'm now 3 pages into the ISo, which is just as far as I went with Jackson.
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