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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby watchme1 » Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:12 am

Flake wrote:cant wait for the inevitable chemist 2304 TvT for the next day


Funny Jackson made the slot look scummy and 2304 comes in and saves it
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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby watchme1 » Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:12 am

Chemist1422 wrote:
2304 wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
2304 wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:I’m really hating 2304’s push on Yosh1

Keep in mind I did say I'd happily retract it given I have evidence to prove their innocence

that’s part of why

that sounds textbook and I don’t think you believe that

Wat?

You didn’t react to Debil doing the same thing at all

You ignored me when I argued it was NAI

So no, I don’t think you are evaluating him


Nvm I'm completely blind and am small brain and take things literally
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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby watchme1 » Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:13 am

Flake wrote:let's play a game

spot the two posts from the first 10 in crimson's iso that reek of wolf agenda


so 2/10 chance, I like it, posting for reminder
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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby watchme1 » Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:14 am

2304 wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
2304 wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
2304 wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:I’m really hating 2304’s push on Yosh1

Keep in mind I did say I'd happily retract it given I have evidence to prove their innocence

that’s part of why

that sounds textbook and I don’t think you believe that

Wat?

You didn’t react to Debil doing the same thing at all

You ignored me when I argued it was NAI

So no, I don’t think you are evaluating him

You are scumreading me for not remembering every post and trying to focus on a player at a time [Which is what I normally do cough cough] with my push also being perfectly reasonable, at least from my pov. I really don’t like the way you’re shading me but tbh like Flake said I’m placing my bets on you being Town just because I don’t see a scum pulling off such a stupid read like this


Chem has pushed others as scum for miniscule reasons in other games which I've played w/ him in as such so I don't see why Chem!scum can't do this
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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby watchme1 » Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:15 am

SparkingJayYT wrote:
Flake wrote:
2304 wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:did some lazy reads

JacksonVirgo 2304
AcidicBreeze - T
UzayAltay - T
kosmo16 - T
EqsyLootz - T
dota2reporter - T
TheDebil - T
crimson97
SparkingJayYT
Flake
AlwaysNever
Chemist1422 - T
watchme1 - T
s0me0ne23 - T

you can ask stuff but they answers i give may be vague af

...so you're townreading 9 people already with no scumreads?

i don't see an issue

Watchme is an issue that I am still waiting on the reasoning for.


I am town ez, now you don't have to think anymore

Also just saw Chem's iioa which I lowkey wanna talk about tbh
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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby watchme1 » Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:15 am

Flake wrote:i also don't see why watchme is being village read by dota


dota sees me town, ez clap
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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby watchme1 » Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:16 am

SparkingJayYT wrote:Dota posting a readslist of a lot of TR's is probably town indicative. Gives little room for scum!Dota to backtrack on their TRs.


Could argue that it is scum having alot of tr's cause they're having trouble of coming up w/ reasons to not tr' the actual townies
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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby watchme1 » Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:19 am

Flake wrote:dota just townreads the whole game omegalul


It do be like that sometimes.

Also flake just chilling w/ their last posts probably towny, flake!scum tryhards a bit more than this imo
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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby watchme1 » Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:21 am

AcidicBreeze wrote:okay brains still fried but im getting back into it.


How fried we talking? KFC fried? Or skin cancer fried?
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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby watchme1 » Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:21 am

S0me0ne23 wrote:{crimson, spark, +1} ?


Actually looks like a likely team from this point
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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby watchme1 » Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:22 am

S0me0ne23 wrote:i can't read watchme to save my life please sends help


Try to remember early game SFM62 (D1/d2/d3) if you can, and compare to here, hopefully that'll help
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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby watchme1 » Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:22 am

S0me0ne23 wrote:im trying to avoid swearing at people because i don't want to develop bad habits


You are big bad boy, go to the naughty corner fam >:c
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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby watchme1 » Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:23 am

S0me0ne23 wrote:
Crimson97 wrote:
Flake wrote:let's play a game

spot the two posts from the first 10 in crimson's iso that reek of wolf agenda

Nice, let others do your job.

let's play a game

guess why im annoyed at this post


Fencesitty in terms of just sitting on a fence and just looking onto the field, not the one where your undecided between two decisions?
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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby watchme1 » Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:28 am

S0me's case on crimson actually looks solid but I'm kinda scared that they're pulling a Dota from the previous vfm63 which they did on eqsy. Like the reasonings are actually kinda concrete this time around from what I can see but it looks like to be like how Dota did the other time.

This is almost never svs, I don't think s0me would theatre so hard to make it looks like what not. Like bussing crimson this early with only one dead townie is kinda suicide ngl (since it's basically 10v3 which is just vanilla 13p setup)

Tvs is likely either way, with s0me being scum like dota was in the previous v63, or s0me actually being town and crimson having left the said legit scumtells

Tvt is possible but unlikely, s0me's arguments holding ground but crimson not doing a good enough job at holding himself. Like town!crimson's posts would be more serious rather than sarcastic I think at least.
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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby watchme1 » Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:29 am

dota2reporter wrote:
watchme1 wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:2304 - T
2) AcidicBreeze - T
3) UzayAltay - T
5) EqsyLootz - T
6) dota2reporter - T
7) TheDebil - T
8) crimson97 - T
9) SparkingJayYT
10) Flake - T
11) AlwaysNever Yosh1123
12) Chemist1422 - T
13) watchme1 - T
14) s0me0ne23 - T

wait
im doing something wrong then
whatever its 3 am ill go sleep


smth smth, crimson tr outta no where

smth smth imma shade and say he discussed with crimson in maf chat to get him out of the shitty situation he's in by tring him

dont remember why i trd him cuz it was late at night but this doesnt hold up because the lad literally doesnt use mafia chat
i was kinda mad the vfm before reroll, he only appeared there once-twice but it was basically a me+acidic show


Huh, I guess that's outta the window. Dota/Crimson scum team two games in a row would be a low chance anyway (oh dead gambler's fallacy) But the argument of not using mafia chat is kinda sound
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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby watchme1 » Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:36 am

some ioa
Spoiler: Night 3 Vigilante OR Vengeful -
Town probs picks n3 vigi over vengeful as an extra nk at that point can turn the game for town, utility from vengeful is super good as scum, lets you kill super tr'd towny without needing to worry about tp. So basically scum pick vengeful, town picks n3 vigi if given choice
1-Shot Vigilante OR 1-Shot PGO (active)
Vigi probs better for both alignments, don't see pgo(vet) being too useful unless you plan on either being super deep wolf and baiting tp or you plan on being towny enough to bait mafia into killing you
Cop OR 1-Shot Redirector
Town 100% picks cop here, Scum picks redirector 100% here, no need for cop as scum, town even less so for redirector cause it can just cause shit ton of harm
1-Shot Commuter OR 1-Shot Watcher
Goes either way as town or scum, can make arguments for both
Doctor OR Roleblocker
Town almost definately picks doctor, mafia almost definately picks roleblocker
Universal Backup OR Role Cop
UB is almost certainly town, scum can pick either, having a consig is nice, having a scum traumap is nice as well
Neighborizer OR Fruit Vendor
FV either way 99% go neighborizer, can go fruit vendor if its known mafia pick tracker to make yourself look super high prior to kill but almsot certainly a neighborizer both ways
Jailkeeper OR Tracker
Tracker probs more useful as town than jailkeeper, scum can go either way, having an agent is nice to figure out prs, jailkeeper for roleblocks sake is good as well, if scum didn't get role cop, probs get tracker here
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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby watchme1 » Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:42 am

In response to Flake's thing about crimson's wolfy agenda?
Spoiler:
Crimson97 wrote:
EqsyLootz wrote:Jesus half this game is getting prodged. One thing I know from experience is scum often tends to show semi-activity so Im on the lookout for that.
I never like having to think by myself thats why I chose neighborizer last game. And why Alwaysnever for a fake-wagon?

There's definitely scum among the active people.


Saying the exact quote makes it extremely shady interms of how much shade is being output here to those active, like it doesn't contribute much and is just putting it out tehre

Crimson97 wrote:
S0me0ne23 wrote:
Crimson97 wrote:
EqsyLootz wrote:Jesus half this game is getting prodged. One thing I know from experience is scum often tends to show semi-activity so Im on the lookout for that.
I never like having to think by myself thats why I chose neighborizer last game. And why Alwaysnever for a fake-wagon?

There's definitely scum among the active people.

It's not worth it to bother trying to figure out how scum are in active or inactive people. I always just assume it's a random distribution and go from there.

There is. With the amounts of activity this thread was having at first, i can almost guarantee one scum is trying to become town leader by being really active just like dota did before the game was rerolled. You are right in that we should assume a random distribution, for now, just because we don't have enough info.


Similar to last case, just stating it without much thought.

Conclusion - agenda is to lynch actives or some shit like that
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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby TheDebil » Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:05 am

2304 wrote:
TheDebil wrote:2304 more like 230whore
becuase ur opinion is incorrect :x

TheDebil wrote:if you know how this goes you wouldnt ask for no insults

I’m really tempted to vote you just for being a prick ngl

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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby TheDebil » Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:05 am

i like watchme now cool
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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby watchme1 » Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:17 am

TheDebil wrote:i like watchme now cool

that kinda gay but im wearing socks so allg
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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby EqsyLootz » Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:49 am

Okay im back. Im going to update my readlist overall.
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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby EqsyLootz » Thu Feb 13, 2020 6:02 am

Here is my readlist, sorry to those who can't speak Eqsy.

1) JacksonVirgo :arrow: 2304 (Town/ScumLean?) Okay well now im just generally confused. Jackson's slot was 100% scum and he replaced out only for his slot to be saved by 2304. I gave all my arguments earlier to as why Jackson was scum but now all I see is town from 2304. Knowing 2304 is newbie I doubt any clever scum plays among that. But that could change, I often struggle to read 2304 that well.

2) AcidicBreeze (NullScum) They overall have shown signs of activity and reads but as soon as they started getting pushed on, they logged off, stopped talking, which could be a scum indicative of being shading and lurking overall.

3) UzayAltay (Null) Ik its bad to have a Null this late in the game with so much info but overall. Uzay is hella 50/50. They havnt shown any signs of being townie nor being scummy. Uzay requires more of a cop check if anything to get them out of the ditch. If Uzay will be more active that would help.

5) EqsyLootz (Townie boiii) Yes im 100% town. No denying it.

6) dota2reporter (Townlean heck i'd even say LockTown) I have no many reasons to as why they are town. Most of them are based on before the VFM Re-roll as they played much differently as scum. They have some amazing reads, good logic regardless of their low WIM. They show good signs of proving to be reading everyone and always supports their reasons with Proof.

7) TheDebil (Null) Another Null. I put Debil as null due to their just overall. Weirdness, they act townie at some points and scummy at others. Their ISO is kind of bad regardless if they are trying to read which gives me some scum indicatives that he's trying to blend in.
8) crimson97 (Nulltown) Yeah crimson's fricking trash argument with S0meone gave me some town indicatives on their part due to their stubborness and argumentive state. They tend to question many things which as well gives me some town indicatives. Although this could change depending if Yosh gets lynched.

9) SparkingJayYT (Slight Scumlean) They have shown actvity as town. This time his WIM is very low, although he has contributed quite a bit he shows no intent in playing this game, He has been quite defensive and agressive. Not to mention he isnt reading people like he did as town before the Re-Roll.

10) Flake (Townlean) Flake is a fricking bot at this game. I admit. But they show huge signs of being town when they arn't acting like an AI. When Flake is not dead taken over by some mechanical computer they show good signs of reads, arguments and overall blindtrusting which I kinda like.

11) AlwaysNever :arrow: Yosh1123 (Null) Ok what the hell I think theres a total of like 5 Content posts coming from these 2 combined!? This is a policy lynch overanything. They have a harmful influence on the rest of this game.

12) Chemist1422 (NullTown) Idk. Dota really wants me to trust Chemist but I never do. This is more of a blind-influencial aura I get from chemist as I can never trust them no matter how townie they may seem. They have acted townie sure but idk. This is probs just me being bad.

13) watchme1 (NullTown) Watchme is Watchme. I fail to read them im just trusting Dota's case on this. (I just realized if Dota is playing me... Well then town is kinda screwed)

14) s0me0ne23 (Nulltown) I mean they have shown HUGE town indicatives throughout this game however a sudden turn from me To jackson to me to Jackson shows signs of cluelessness and potential turning the tables. This caused a bit of confusion and chaos which scum needed in the end to make a RNG lynch.
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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby EqsyLootz » Thu Feb 13, 2020 6:03 am

I stg spoilers are broken. I press preview and it shows a nice spoiler so I submit my read and its gone. Thx Forums!
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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby EqsyLootz » Thu Feb 13, 2020 6:04 am

/vote Yosh

Policy lynch :l. Can't say I'd rather lynch this over Sparking but. I have no say in this apparently.
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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby EqsyLootz » Thu Feb 13, 2020 6:05 am

Okay imma just lurk for now until something catches my attention. Don't really feel like talking atm.
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