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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby TheWabbit » Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:28 am

kosmo16 wrote:
TheWabbit wrote:
LOLingHyena wrote:
MichaelgRook wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:therealet1
JacksonVirgo
polypies73
Google
MichaelgRook

appareantly, if my analysis are right, this group has 3 or 4 scum

this is a solid list ngl

personally I want to take jackson, poly, and et as a poe from that

probably look something like [jackson>et>poly]

lol, what?

Okay, like, I'm trying not to be too unfair to you since you are one of the options here and I don't expect you to pick yourself.

BUT

Out of the four people that you could pick from to say they are the least scummy, you pick Google? Over Poly and ET? This one definitely needs an explanation, lol.

google's slot feels worse than poly or et
poly has low scum equity after htg flipped, but i'm unsure about how much it holds
et, i haven't checked myself so that's just benefit of doubt


Why htg's flip impacts poly? I can't see your point. Also scumreading me for my very first post - classic.

doesn't make my read less credible
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - Ghostly Passing: Day

Postby TheWabbit » Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:30 am

TheWabbit wrote:okay

this basically revolved around uzay's read that poly's scumread on htg is unjustified and it's probs messy so exonerate me

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polypies73 wrote:it's d3 start putting people in scum or townreads

poly's list enlists jackson as undetermined, with progression stating heytheregirl17 and multi are undetermined but were pushed down
polypies73 wrote:yes i was worried i couldn't count

also actually multi can probably also be placed in teh idfk category

polypies73 wrote:
heytheregirl17 wrote:Why am I scum, that came from nowhere


because I'd already filled everyone else and I needed oen more.

they switched to this:
polypies73 wrote:
polypies73 wrote:I just realised almost all my scumreads are probably wrong

this si why you actually pay attention to the game


like htg and alwaysnever are town

and jackson is scum

i'm not placing their interactions with jackson in detail ((but it's more of poly getting frustrated at jackson aiming for twtbaw))
polypies73 wrote:Chemist - townlean
HTG - scumlean
jackson - town
sparking - town
uzay - scum
hyena - town
wabbit - scumlean (although holy f reading wabbit is hard)
multi - scumlean

after being pressed by uzay a bit he flip-flopped on htg back to wolf despite their "eureka" moment previously
do note that the only CTRL+F of htg references uzay and poly's argument, which doesn't show much progression behind how he regressed to htg scumread other than "hey i read isos"
polypies73 wrote:you do realise i was joking about the null thing.
Feels liek your nitpicking at me cause you don't understand when i'm sreiosu or not

this causes their entire sequence to fall down

this rundown shows very inconsistent pattern of thinking, which means their thoughts about the game are heavily dissociated and are likely unnatural; they're likely making shit up as they go and hope it rolls


added bonus (but kinda reachy):
polypies73 wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:Explain Why Jackson is A bad wagon .
Seriously , If You cant explain , I Will Tunnel You for not answering any of my arguments about Jackson when thinking Jackson is A bad wagon without explaining Why .
You have 24 hours .

ok waste your time tunneling me rather than playing the game.

Jackson is bad wagon because it's easier to scumread them later, plus they're asily a better vengeful kill than lynch kill as they'll probably herovenge

this sounds like wolf mentality
stray venges aren't that much of a hindrance in the current threadstate
this sounds like cautious wolf trying to do damage control


wdyt
it's unfair of me to suddenly include quotes i didn't quote before lol

this was my case on poly D3
guess how much of a determinant htg's alignment is
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby dota2reporter » Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:37 am

Multiuniverse wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:also multi is trending down for me

that analysis makes him look pretty bad, also keeping in mind my tr of acidic


then explain why you think the analysis is bad

wut?

im talking about the votecount analysis i made, you were on none of the top wagons
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - Ghostly Passing: Day

Postby kosmo16 » Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:40 am

TheWabbit wrote:
TheWabbit wrote:okay

this basically revolved around uzay's read that poly's scumread on htg is unjustified and it's probs messy so exonerate me

Spoiler:
polypies73 wrote:it's d3 start putting people in scum or townreads

poly's list enlists jackson as undetermined, with progression stating heytheregirl17 and multi are undetermined but were pushed down
polypies73 wrote:yes i was worried i couldn't count

also actually multi can probably also be placed in teh idfk category

polypies73 wrote:
heytheregirl17 wrote:Why am I scum, that came from nowhere


because I'd already filled everyone else and I needed oen more.

they switched to this:
polypies73 wrote:
polypies73 wrote:I just realised almost all my scumreads are probably wrong

this si why you actually pay attention to the game


like htg and alwaysnever are town

and jackson is scum

i'm not placing their interactions with jackson in detail ((but it's more of poly getting frustrated at jackson aiming for twtbaw))
polypies73 wrote:Chemist - townlean
HTG - scumlean
jackson - town
sparking - town
uzay - scum
hyena - town
wabbit - scumlean (although holy f reading wabbit is hard)
multi - scumlean

after being pressed by uzay a bit he flip-flopped on htg back to wolf despite their "eureka" moment previously
do note that the only CTRL+F of htg references uzay and poly's argument, which doesn't show much progression behind how he regressed to htg scumread other than "hey i read isos"
polypies73 wrote:you do realise i was joking about the null thing.
Feels liek your nitpicking at me cause you don't understand when i'm sreiosu or not

this causes their entire sequence to fall down

this rundown shows very inconsistent pattern of thinking, which means their thoughts about the game are heavily dissociated and are likely unnatural; they're likely making shit up as they go and hope it rolls


added bonus (but kinda reachy):
polypies73 wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:Explain Why Jackson is A bad wagon .
Seriously , If You cant explain , I Will Tunnel You for not answering any of my arguments about Jackson when thinking Jackson is A bad wagon without explaining Why .
You have 24 hours .

ok waste your time tunneling me rather than playing the game.

Jackson is bad wagon because it's easier to scumread them later, plus they're asily a better vengeful kill than lynch kill as they'll probably herovenge

this sounds like wolf mentality
stray venges aren't that much of a hindrance in the current threadstate
this sounds like cautious wolf trying to do damage control


wdyt
it's unfair of me to suddenly include quotes i didn't quote before lol

this was my case on poly D3
guess how much of a determinant htg's alignment is


I can see your point, but it is really determinant how poly would use information as scum. I think poly is a player who would try to hunt down his teammates to gain towncred. In that case push on htg was part of the scumagenda.
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby dota2reporter » Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:40 am

kosmo16 wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:also multi is trending down for me

that analysis makes him look pretty bad, also keeping in mind my tr of acidic


My impression is that Acidic was caring for htg too much to be a scum.

could you rephrase that?
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby kosmo16 » Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:54 am

dota2reporter wrote:
kosmo16 wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:also multi is trending down for me

that analysis makes him look pretty bad, also keeping in mind my tr of acidic


My impression is that Acidic was caring for htg too much to be a scum.

could you rephrase that?


I mean why would scum care so much who will be lynched if it could mean they will be next? Acidic genuinely believed htg is town and didn't want her lynch.
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby kosmo16 » Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:03 am

I can see a lot of people scumreading ET. What's the case on him?
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby UzayAltay » Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:22 am

Chemist1422 wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:Chem I understood what you scumread
But objectively , it is a theory , not a case.

You can literally say that about every case ever

I mean , you didnt say anything about why it isnt coming from v!Michael
If you think it isnt (you think) , showing that makes the case stronger.
Also gtg.

I literally did

I said I don't think "bad but not scum" is a real thought that Michael has in that scenario

:Facepalm:
I understood it different ( as You were not expecting , but seems possible )
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby dota2reporter » Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:28 am

kosmo16 wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:
kosmo16 wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:also multi is trending down for me

that analysis makes him look pretty bad, also keeping in mind my tr of acidic


My impression is that Acidic was caring for htg too much to be a scum.

could you rephrase that?


I mean why would scum care so much who will be lynched if it could mean they will be next? Acidic genuinely believed htg is town and didn't want her lynch.

really? i missed that

then i agree yeah, acidic shouldnt be lynched
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby dota2reporter » Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:29 am

also i found something BIG against jackson

she wasnt on the watchme counterwagon

my theory is she was scared of town!watchme venging the counterwagon to help town

and thats why she did it
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby SparkingJay » Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:35 am

TheWabbit wrote:
SparkingJayYT wrote:
LOLingHyena wrote:/vote Wabbit

I'm not entirely opposed to this

why?

iirc we haven't interacted much, so i'd want your take

Boring answer: PoE

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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby UzayAltay » Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:36 am

dota2reporter wrote:
kosmo16 wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:
kosmo16 wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:also multi is trending down for me

that analysis makes him look pretty bad, also keeping in mind my tr of acidic


My impression is that Acidic was caring for htg too much to be a scum.

could you rephrase that?


I mean why would scum care so much who will be lynched if it could mean they will be next? Acidic genuinely believed htg is town and didn't want her lynch.

really? i missed that

then i agree yeah, acidic shouldnt be lynched

Dota , Dota , Dota . You are A good Player but You can be convinced very easily when You look from one PoV .
We already know Acidic thought HTG is town , regardless of Acidic's alignment .
The question is , Is Acidic town that geniunely thought no-lynch is A better option , or traitor that tried dodging The Venge-kill with not voting .
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby SparkingJay » Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:41 am

TheWabbit wrote:
SparkingJayYT wrote:
MichaelgRook wrote:I'm up for lynching acidic but not wabbit

Why not Wabbit??
I read Acidic higher than Wabbit.

wut

Wut

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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby UzayAltay » Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:44 am

Also , I think I should say Why I think Wolf Acid is likelier .
Acidic saying they Will hammer twice , at EOD .
I Dont think it exactly Fits with their explanation ( wanting no-lynch) from town PoV
From scum PoV explanation is still hard to fit , but More possible , especially with The possibility of some forgetting.
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby SparkingJay » Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:45 am

kosmo16 wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:also multi is trending down for me

that analysis makes him look pretty bad, also keeping in mind my tr of acidic


My impression is that Acidic was caring for htg too much to be a scum.

Fair

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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby SparkingJay » Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:47 am

kosmo16 wrote:I can see a lot of people scumreading ET. What's the case on him?

I was metareading him since D2. Somewhere in my iso

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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby SparkingJay » Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:48 am

@Uzay what is your thoughs on Acidic's slip D1?

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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby UzayAltay » Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:50 am

SparkingJayYT wrote:@Uzay what is your thoughs on Acidic's slip D1?

Can You Quote me The post ?
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby SparkingJay » Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:50 am

dota2reporter wrote:also i found something BIG against jackson

she wasnt on the watchme counterwagon

my theory is she was scared of town!watchme venging the counterwagon to help town

and thats why she did it

Possible, I'll have a quick flick through their iso

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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby SparkingJay » Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:51 am

AcidicBreeze wrote:I feel like jackson has the mafia version of my role

AcidicBreeze wrote:
SparkingJayYT wrote:@Acidic Derpclear denied

Not a derp clear. I can clearly see jackson softing my role.

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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby UzayAltay » Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:55 am

SparkingJayYT wrote:
AcidicBreeze wrote:I feel like jackson has the mafia version of my role

AcidicBreeze wrote:
SparkingJayYT wrote:@Acidic Derpclear denied

Not a derp clear. I can clearly see jackson softing my role.

TBH I Dont know. You are right It's Weird , but I cant put any Logic on that .
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Rise of Krampus:D

Postby SparkingJay » Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:57 am

JacksonVirgo wrote:Why watchme?

I think this is the only post Jackson made about Watchme lol

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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby SparkingJay » Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:58 am

UzayAltay wrote:
SparkingJayYT wrote:
AcidicBreeze wrote:I feel like jackson has the mafia version of my role

AcidicBreeze wrote:
SparkingJayYT wrote:@Acidic Derpclear denied

Not a derp clear. I can clearly see jackson softing my role.

TBH I Dont know. You are right It's Weird , but I cant put any Logic on that .

Do you not think this is something you expect Town!Acidic or Scum!Acidic to say?

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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Rise of Krampus:D

Postby UzayAltay » Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:00 am

AcidicBreeze wrote:
JacksonVirgo wrote:Wait if I die I can kill a boi?
My epic gut reads are never usually wrong and I haven't really outted mine this game yet, so if you want to push me get ready to be fucked scum

That was The context ?
It is possible This is Coming to The point alet says , but I Dont know What else can I say in that.
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NFM50,NFM51,NFM52,14D,14E, NFM54 ,14H (AF), 14G, NFM 55, NFM 56, 15C, NFM 57, NFM 58,15F,SFM45,16B, VFM36, 16D , SFM 47 , VFM38, NFM62 , 16G ,VFM 39, EpisodeXVII, 17B , 17C , VFM44 , 17D , 17F,18C,18D,18E,VFM55,VFM57,SFM64, 19C,VFM58,VFM59 ,19D,VFM60,SFM66,SFM67,VFM64,SFM70,VFM69,XX7,XX9, VFM71,VFM72, VFM73, VFM74, 21A,VFM75,VFM76,XX14,VFM77,XX16,VFM78,VFM79

Scum Games (19-14)

NFM 48 , NFM 49 , TFM 65 ,TFM 66 , Episode XV ,TFM68 ,VFM 34, NFM61 , VFM42 , SFM53, VFM43,17E,VFM49,SFM60,CFM19,VFM54, EpisodeXIX, SFM63, 19E, 19F ,VFM62 ,VFM63,XX3,VFM66,XX5,VFM67,XX6,SFM72,XX8,VFM70,XX10,SFM76,SFM80
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Re: SFM 67: Christmas Paranoia Mafia - The Melted: Day 4

Postby UzayAltay » Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:02 am

SparkingJayYT wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
SparkingJayYT wrote:
AcidicBreeze wrote:I feel like jackson has the mafia version of my role

AcidicBreeze wrote:
SparkingJayYT wrote:@Acidic Derpclear denied

Not a derp clear. I can clearly see jackson softing my role.

TBH I Dont know. You are right It's Weird , but I cant put any Logic on that .

Do you not think this is something you expect Town!Acidic or Scum!Acidic to say?

I couldnt imagine Logic in First , but after context search , W! is likelier .
46-46 Spoiler: Town Games(27-32)

NFM50,NFM51,NFM52,14D,14E, NFM54 ,14H (AF), 14G, NFM 55, NFM 56, 15C, NFM 57, NFM 58,15F,SFM45,16B, VFM36, 16D , SFM 47 , VFM38, NFM62 , 16G ,VFM 39, EpisodeXVII, 17B , 17C , VFM44 , 17D , 17F,18C,18D,18E,VFM55,VFM57,SFM64, 19C,VFM58,VFM59 ,19D,VFM60,SFM66,SFM67,VFM64,SFM70,VFM69,XX7,XX9, VFM71,VFM72, VFM73, VFM74, 21A,VFM75,VFM76,XX14,VFM77,XX16,VFM78,VFM79

Scum Games (19-14)

NFM 48 , NFM 49 , TFM 65 ,TFM 66 , Episode XV ,TFM68 ,VFM 34, NFM61 , VFM42 , SFM53, VFM43,17E,VFM49,SFM60,CFM19,VFM54, EpisodeXIX, SFM63, 19E, 19F ,VFM62 ,VFM63,XX3,VFM66,XX5,VFM67,XX6,SFM72,XX8,VFM70,XX10,SFM76,SFM80
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