Eragon1329 wrote:Flint9- null scum, mainly just no ISO except sheeping onto tilted.
-fully inactive D1, which can be attributed to the mod funny business, so thats NAI
-Day 2 says SP and calls tilted for being scum and meme’ing, after tilted wagon has gained traction and is already expressed that the memes do continue through Day 2. I talked about this in thread already, I think this is opportunistic and wolfy, but also like 2 other people did the same thing so I doubt they are all scum.
Rightodude- null scum as well, some towny things but also quite a few scummy things.
-mod funny business
-hops in scum reading ph0ne for being “ultra sketchy”? And said we all think Chemist is scum? And then when chemist replies with “???” Righto says he will think of chemist as null.
-makes the post about lynching an invest being bad, which from anyone not a newbie I’d consider LAMIST, but I guess it makes sense from a newbie POV.
-votes ph0ne and says “why he shouldn’t be lynched” without any other reasons. Also, he answered the question meant for joeshe :shrug:
-When he makes the post about “i agree with chemist that Bodhrak is acting weirdly and Mario might not be telling the truth so he isn’t nightkilled” I see multiple perspectives here. 1)he could be mafia rolefishing ( I doubt it) 2) he could be town or mafia that just forgot that Mario got confirmed as town, which IMO seems more likely to be from town. So this post gains some towny points, but also kinda sheeps chemist regarding Bodhrak as well.
-When I push him about his Ph0ne progression, his first response Is deflecting saying “I didn’t do much, it was other people like Mario” and then when I continue pushing that, he does explain it. I don’t think he gets that much credit for explaining his ph0ne vote after the fact, but I do like that he had reasons. I think its a fairly towny post, especially admitting that he was influenced by the thread, but saw his own reasons as well.
-says he doesn’t think Joeshe is scum? When joeshe had the amazing amount of 2 posts in his ISO.
-finally, he says “I don’t think there is enough evidence, some scummy some not and people make mistakes… but ill probably vote tilted” which doesn’t make sense to me overall.
Bodhrak- Town Lean overall I can see quite a few scummy posts and I definitely see why people scumread him, but I personally feel he has been pretty transparent in some progressions and I Like how involved in the game he is getting, especially for a newbie, I feel thats the main reason I think he is town, just because the first time newbies playing mafia are normally frozen and have trouble acting natural. I could be getting duped here but I feel this flips town.
-Damn Bodhrak has a long ISO
-There is a lot of stuff I like but also quite a bit of stuff I find scummy.
-they start off by calling Chemist and Mario’s votes “pointless”
-makes some weird posts like “its weird no one put me” and “please don’t think im defending ph0ne”
-I really really liked how he started off with the readlist, even if it had room to be desired. It shows an intent to gamesolve, which for a newbie, I find to be an extreme town tell. So this is one of my main reasons I have a strong townread on them.
-his vote on Ph0ne is meh, but at least he had some interaction through the thread
-his kinda like omniscient attitude towards Juve for the hammer like “that hammer was fishy but also nooby.” He didn’t really make a conclusion, just said it was both fishy and nooby, implying towny.
-makes another readlist, which still I feel is towny
-he says lynching Juve gives us info, but then later will say that Juve doesnt give info, so ???
-rolefishes that chemist was softing TI, which is ???
-i agree about the not claiming stuff, but overall thats kinda NAI
-votes tilted, but being one of the first to express suspicion I think its not bad.
I dislike the fact that he keeps shading Juve like “Weak excuses/You are my top scumread, but doesn’t vote him, and instead votes the weaker pushes of Tilted and Righto.
His talk about PL’ing disgusts me, but I can kinda see it from a newbie perspective. Also all the lynching for info stuff, at times, that can be an ok play, but like 90% of the time you Lynch who you think flips scum.
Says that he leans more on the town side than the bussed side for juve, but still scum reads him?
Joeshe- scum lean
-votes Ph0ne without progression except “meme gone south” and shades Bodhrak in a sort of OMGUS.
-His next post is really careful, like “i don’t really remember what I posted, so… maaaaybe? But im not going to defend Righto JUST INCASE he is scum, but I wont scumread him either. Says he thinks juve is scummy, but then asks for other players to make the case and “Convince his vote.” Oh, and also, anyone who doesn’t needs to defend juve?
-He’s posted like 3 different times out of 5 posts why he is inactive, which pings as over-reactionary.
JuvenileFourtyTwo- Scumread, he backtracks often, and scum reads multiple people for things that he did as well. He is unable to provide reads until pressured, and then comes out with 3 baseless scum reads but no strong townreads(Except Mario obviously). He cries for a quick hammer on mario, after voting Ph0ne and hammering him too, and he rolefshes.
-he starts of saying Ph0ne took the vote out of hand, but then also says Mario is scummy for taking it too seriously, either intentionally or otherwise, and states that ph0ne was making an “obvious joke” and says Chemist and Mario are in “kahoots.” This post pings as off to me because he is saying that Ph0ne took it too far(implying scum) while defending ph0ne(implying town) and pushing chemist and Mario(implying buddies).
-wants to Lynch Mario because it gives “information” and says if Mario flips town, Lynch ph0ne. As others have stated, this is scummy because its pushing an agenda of Mario > Ph0ne who are both town.
-pushes a no-lynch, which is just something to note, but not neccesarily scummy coming from a newbie.
-a lot of no-lynch posts
-and then suddenly backtracks on everything. Votes ph0ne, after defending him. Votes for a lynch, after proposing a no-lynch, and the vote is the hammer. I feel this was all just meant to Lynch Ph0ne before he had a chance to claim his role or defend himself firmly.
-Defends himself by saying, “Yeah I know I messed up, and I’m really sorry, its a good play to Lynch me here because I messed up, but I’m town” which rings both as forced and as AtE
-tries to get a quick hammer on Mario, after saying he wasn’t ready for a Lynch yet.
-makes like 4 more posts on quick hammering… again.
-avoids giving scum reads originally, which could be a sign of frozen wolf(it could be frozen town too so its not that big of a deal just something to note).
-“i understand why you want to Lynch me, but you are wrong” more AtE
-the whole stuff about Righto and Joeshe being “Friendly” seems like just seeing what sticks and what doesn’t.
-scumreads tilted for memeing…. Which 2+ people did just before him.
-and then he comes back to say “im doing the same thing” to flint, which means he scum read tilted for doing what he himself is doing???
-wants to Lynch tilted, but agrees that if tilted is scummy, he is scummy????
-calls 0ver scum for voting ph0ne without reasoning, when thats like, nothin compared to other things. I expanded more on this in other posts. Also goes into the 0ver/Chem buddy agenda?
-lots and lots of tinfoil on Chemist, even voting Chemist(i also expanded on this in other posts)
-rolefishes telling chemist to softclaim, which is ??? From a town perspective.
Kears123- null, NGL I see some scummy things, but not a lot is something I’d make a scum case over, they’ve been a bit over-enthusiastic IMO, but I think thats just normal Kears, and they haven’t provided much content, but I’m waiting for their readlist.
-eh im kinda having trouble making a read here
-about mario, says “i think this is town meta but I haven’t seen him be this jestery” which implies that its not town meta?
-votes juvenile for the vote on Mario, but not really saying anything before? I mean, the vote was bad but like, is that the only thing you scum read him for?
-some of their posts ping me as a bit OTT happy, thats why I asked if it was normal for Kears, like “You can do it if you try!!!” And “Thats good!” To someone saying they SP.
-kinda has avoided making reads, and instead is very reactionary and just responding to posts without making much of a conclusion. Im not sure if this is necessarily scummy, but I’m keeping it in mind.
Mario- confirmed town
-Literally mod confirmed town
-Literally mod confirmed town
-Literally confirmed town
-confirmed town
-town
0verki11- Town lean, this is really weak for me, but I’ve seen some towny things, nothing that can’t necessarily be faked by scum, but I soulread this as town.
-first page is memes(noting to self)
-calls Ph0ne’s post out in “holy shit this post is scummy” which was explained further but I still don’t see it,
-Like their posts on the lynching topics, but could be faked.
-basically the above about quick hammering
-votes juve for voting mario, same as years ig. But also pushes it asking further about the reasoning. Town points for following up.
-just a gut feel I have.
Chemist1422- near-confirmed town
-claimed role blocked and I see no reason to doubt that claim. Plus they’ve been towny.
TiltedComedian- town lean, weak but gut read here too
-memes
-wall is p.towny-ish
-push on Mario is an interesting perspective(and I think its towny for having an opposing view and sticking to it)
-second wall is fine
-i heavily disagree with his Bodhrak read
-even if its self-meta, I like his posts about his play and I gut-read that town as well
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At the start where I mentioned chemist I was confused because I didn’t realise it was rng. With the part where I voted on tilted comedian, that’s because the lynch will give us info. He’s the scummiest person right now imo