14E - A Toast to Coolway99 and hippophant (MAFIA WIN)

[The11thdoctor]

Ender i think i should know why im dying. And if my towniess reveals all the scum somehow, why dont we lynch one of them? And if doc is so "skillful" whyd you even offer him up as a "choice" anyway.

what are you talking about now?

...he said to lynch one of us but then voted me so everyone else did. Thats what i mean by "choice"

I was the other person because his gut read on me is scum, same as you, he clearly stated that., and I was asking what you were talking about with the "skillful" comment, I had as much use in abilities as you claim until you were voted up.

[xUltiix]

Ender - if jacob is town, who is scum?

[jacobm1122]

Ender if you used your reads to determine the two lynch options(or one as it were, since you knew everybody would do what you did and vote me), may I ask why you believe I am scum? I feel this game I have played the best as town out of all my town games.

At the end of the game, probably. I said I will explain everything after the end of the game.

I read over jacob's iso, game progression, and previous games/meta and I believe I found a towntell for him that has happened this game
Depending on how experienced he is it may be fake but I'm no longer completely confident in this lynch
I would advise the lawyer to swap defendants

Are you suggesting putting doc in his place? I think it is a waste of skill that has way too much potential later in this game.

Just say what you need to say doc, I hardly believe you have any hidden info.

@doc

[xUltiix]

Ender if you used your reads to determine the two lynch options(or one as it were, since you knew everybody would do what you did and vote me), may I ask why you believe I am scum? I feel this game I have played the best as town out of all my town games.

At the end of the game, probably. I said I will explain everything after the end of the game.

I read over jacob's iso, game progression, and previous games/meta and I believe I found a towntell for him that has happened this game
Depending on how experienced he is it may be fake but I'm no longer completely confident in this lynch
I would advise the lawyer to swap defendants

Are you suggesting putting doc in his place? I think it is a waste of skill that has way too much potential later in this game.

Just say what you need to say doc, I hardly believe you have any hidden info.

@doc

Not sure what ender is talking about here but it isnt worth speculating on

@Ender wasnt specifically suggesting doc, just anyone who you think is scum if jacob isnt

[realMandingo]

I'm gonna sound like a hypocrite given what I posted earlier but it's not really a question of reads and more of strategy. From my POV at least, I think if you guys read things over again you might catch on as to what is going on.

Elaborate on this?

I can't, sorry.

[xUltiix]

I'm gonna sound like a hypocrite given what I posted earlier but it's not really a question of reads and more of strategy. From my POV at least, I think if you guys read things over again you might catch on as to what is going on.

Elaborate on this?

I can't, sorry.

Yes you can

[xUltiix]

@ender would like an answer so the lawyer has time to swap defendants, we are running out of time

[Shilster]

jacob, if you are town, why are you telling town to lynch you when will lost majority after your lynch?

[Shilster]

jacob, if you are town, why are you telling town to lynch you when town will lose majority after your lynch?

Fixed

[Soulshade55r]

jacob, if you are town, why are you telling town to lynch you when will lost majority after your lynch?

I dunno maybe they are jester and they knew escort would be a really good fake claim to get them hung when there is most likely a consort.
But yes jacob why are you telling them to lynch you.

[realMandingo]

I'm gonna sound like a hypocrite given what I posted earlier but it's not really a question of reads and more of strategy. From my POV at least, I think if you guys read things over again you might catch on as to what is going on.

Elaborate on this?

I can't, sorry.

Yes you can

No, I can't. To me it looks like I'm playing for the town and you're playing on your own.

[jacobm1122]

@shil/soul Did you just skip all my posts? Read the last few pages again mates

[Soulshade55r]

@shil/soul Did you just skip all my posts? Read the last few pages again mates

If you are truly town your death does NOT benefit us at all. We cannot really afford to lose another Town member.
also
You claimed escort right? if so who did you block on each day?

[The11thdoctor]

@shil/soul Did you just skip all my posts? Read the last few pages again mates

If you are truly town your death does NOT benefit us at all. We cannot really afford to lose another Town member.
also
You claimed escort right? if so who did you block on each day?

coulda sworn he claimed cit.

[jacobm1122]

@shil/soul Did you just skip all my posts? Read the last few pages again mates

If you are truly town your death does NOT benefit us at all. We cannot really afford to lose another Town member.
also
You claimed escort right? if so who did you block on each day?

Wow you REALLY did not read did you. Doc and I claimed cit. Reread the last several pages and wont need to ask these questions

[Soulshade55r]

Wait then I thought the whole hammer was based on you claiming escort and it's suspicious because you didn't defend macca by saying you visited them so you'd most likely be a consort
Wtf.
I'm sorry I'm stupid for messing that up what is the hammer even based on then.

[The11thdoctor]

Wait then I thought the whole hammer was based on you claiming escort and it's suspicious because you didn't defend macca by saying you visited them so you'd most likely be a consort
Wtf.
I'm sorry I'm stupid for messing that up what is the hammer even based on then.

we claimed cit, and apparently thought the same people were scummy, so according to enders gut one or both of us is scummy. because its unlikely were cit with 9 cit claims and 7 scum.

[jacobm1122]

Alright lawyer needs to make a decision at some point. Decide if you trust ultiix, I dont know what hes figured out, but it must be good if he is convinced I'm town despite my previous opinion of him. I doubt ender will return today, so I say its up to ultiix and the lawyer to decide what to do about me, the vig, lookout, escort, etc. mandingo you should say whatever it is you are thinking. Ultiix if you have any ideas about enders scumlist maybe suggest a new candidate if you believe I am citizen. But if you really think I should die according to ender's plan, I understand. But we should all hope the vig target is scum.

[Soulshade55r]

Wait then I thought the whole hammer was based on you claiming escort and it's suspicious because you didn't defend macca by saying you visited them so you'd most likely be a consort
Wtf.
I'm sorry I'm stupid for messing that up what is the hammer even based on then.

we claimed cit, and apparently thought the same people were scummy, so according to enders gut one or both of us is scummy. because its unlikely were cit with 9 cit claims and 7 scum.

Well Most Citizen Claims are Probably fake, because it's a very easy scum claim.
There are a Max 4 Citizens alive (Probably 3.)

[polypies73]

Don't think Jacob and poly are mafia together at the very least

Why ?

Don't think Jacob and poly are mafia together at the very least

I think Jacob's alignment has 0 correlation to poly's alignment, meaning regardless of Jacob's flip, poly's likeliness to be Town, Mafia or Neutral doesn't change.

My view of what happened was mafia!poly knows jacob isn't mafia got frustrated when the day end was delayed and there is a chance of someone different being lynched.

I do see what you mean though Mandingo, reaction wasn't based on the lynch target but that has to keep faking being town for another 24 hours

What?
All I did was ask why this was necessary considering we were following ender’s plan already. How would me having to fit in as town for 24 hours be a problem?

[The11thdoctor]

Heads up, only 2 hours remain.

[Tiltedcomedian]

I will probably be AFK when trial ends. Please someone contact moon or another mod to lock in 1 hour 40 min.

Thanks.

[jacobm1122]

nobody has anything to say?

[Arckas]

If you are mafia, you are playing a really good game.

If you are not mafia, at least we'll eliminate a slot.

[Arckas]

I do actually have something to say, but saying it now might lead to a vote change- and in the last hour I don't think it would be good to say it.

I'll keep it in my will.