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What are your opinions on the Wannabe?

Perfect, this should be added right away!
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This has potential, just a little bit of tweaking and it will be good enough to be added.
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The idea was good but this role would not work in the game.
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Nope, this role just isn't good enough, and I will post some constructive critism in the comments.
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It's overpowered and wins every time.
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It's underpowered and hard to win as.
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It's well balanced and will win some and lose some.
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Re: Wannabe (Neutral Unknown) - 100+ Views!!

Postby TheWolfBuddy » Tue Nov 01, 2016 2:08 pm

giving it full immunity and making it win when all other factions but 1 are rekt just makes town autolynch every surv or amne claim xd
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Re: Wannabe (Neutral Unknown) - 100+ Views!!

Postby SomeCatchyName9 » Tue Nov 01, 2016 3:25 pm

TheWolfBuddy wrote:giving it full immunity and making it win when all other factions but 1 are rekt just makes town autolynch every surv or amne claim xd

Yeh I scrapped that idea :lol:
EvilKingRNiC wrote:I have seen this role and if it wins with vamps since it's Neut UK/ Neut Chaos then I like it


/support

Thanks for the support :)

Sorry but I think making this win with Vamps would defeat the purpose :| but thanks for the comment :)
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Re: Wannabe (Neutral Unknown) - 100+ Views!!

Postby EvilKingRNiC » Tue Nov 01, 2016 6:35 pm

SomeCatchyName9 wrote:
TheWolfBuddy wrote:giving it full immunity and making it win when all other factions but 1 are rekt just makes town autolynch every surv or amne claim xd

Yeh I scrapped that idea :lol:
EvilKingRNiC wrote:I have seen this role and if it wins with vamps since it's Neut UK/ Neut Chaos then I like it


/support

Thanks for the support :)

Sorry but I think making this win with Vamps would defeat the purpose :| but thanks for the comment :)


Of course. It actaully not winning with vamps might make this role somewhat realistic.
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Re: Wannabe (Neutral Unknown) - 100+ Views!!

Postby SomeCatchyName9 » Wed Nov 02, 2016 12:27 am

EvilKingRNiC wrote:
SomeCatchyName9 wrote:
EvilKingRNiC wrote:I have seen this role and if it wins with vamps since it's Neut UK/ Neut Chaos then I like it


/support

Thanks for the support :)

Sorry but I think making this win with Vamps would defeat the purpose :| but thanks for the comment :)


Of course. It actaully not winning with vamps might make this role somewhat realistic.


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Re: Wannabe (Neutral Unknown) - 100+ Views!!

Postby SomeCatchyName9 » Thu Nov 03, 2016 12:09 am

Feedback is welcome
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Re: Wannabe (Neutral Unknown) - 100+ Views!!

Postby SomeCatchyName9 » Thu Nov 03, 2016 2:29 pm

Should I add a new strategy section? Would that help show this role's balancedness?
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Re: Wannabe (Neutral Unknown) - 100+ Views!!

Postby BlazinIce » Fri Nov 04, 2016 6:53 am

SomeCatchyName9 wrote:Should I add a new strategy section? Would that help show this role's balancedness?

Yes
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Re: Wannabe (Neutral Unknown) - 100+ Views!!

Postby SomeCatchyName9 » Fri Nov 04, 2016 12:13 pm

BlazinIce wrote:
SomeCatchyName9 wrote:Should I add a new strategy section? Would that help show this role's balancedness?

Yes

Ok I'll add one.

If anyone has more strategy they can think of about the Wannabe, please do tell me and I may add it in :)
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Re: Wannabe (Neutral Unknown) - 350+ Views!!

Postby SomeCatchyName9 » Sat Nov 05, 2016 6:49 pm

As always, feedback is greatly appreciated! Especially about the new Strategy section :)
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Re: Wannabe (Neutral Unknown) - 350+ Views!!

Postby SomeCatchyName9 » Sun Nov 06, 2016 11:48 am

I've sent this to the TG staff, along with my Tyrant role, let's hope it gets accepted :D
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Re: Wannabe (Neutral Unknown) - 350+ Views!!

Postby BPsycho2 » Sun Nov 06, 2016 11:58 am

Still. Why have something like this that only exists to steal the win and not do anything
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Re: Wannabe (Neutral Unknown) - 350+ Views!!

Postby SomeCatchyName9 » Sun Nov 06, 2016 12:48 pm

BPsycho2 wrote:Still. Why have something like this that only exists to steal the win and not do anything

But isn't that what all evils do? Blend in with the town, and "steal the win" at the end? This is sort of the same thing (except it takes the Mafia win)
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Re: Wannabe (Neutral Unknown) - 350+ Views!!

Postby BPsycho2 » Sun Nov 06, 2016 1:04 pm

Well, yes.

But why this

Why not just call it the straggler and have it actually win with the Mafia?

Then if mafia attack a Serial Killer, they might get confused and not report it

Or something.
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Re: Wannabe (Neutral Unknown) - 350+ Views!!

Postby SomeCatchyName9 » Sun Nov 06, 2016 1:45 pm

BPsycho2 wrote:Well, yes.

But why this

Why not just call it the straggler and have it actually win with the Mafia?

Then if mafia attack a Serial Killer, they might get confused and not report it

Or something.

Although that isn't a bad idea, the main point of this whole thread is this underlying goal:

A must keep B alive. B must kill A.

It opens up a lot of strategy in the discussion part of the game, where Wannabe must support the Mafia without being too obvious, and Mafia must try and get him lynched, even though he is helping them.
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Re: Wannabe (Neutral Unknown) - 350+ Views!!

Postby Crazyzombie168 » Sun Nov 06, 2016 8:05 pm

Oh, looks like I didn't see the part where Mafia need to kill it, which adds up to this being a cool and neat idea. I have a thing for liking hated roles I think.
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Re: Wannabe (Neutral Unknown) - 350+ Views!!

Postby SomeCatchyName9 » Mon Nov 07, 2016 4:14 pm

Crazyzombie168 wrote:Oh, looks like I didn't see the part where Mafia need to kill it, which adds up to this being a cool and neat idea. I have a thing for liking hated roles I think.

Thanks :)


But what do you mean liking hated roles? I didn't think this was hated...
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Re: Wannabe (Neutral Unknown) - 350+ Views!!

Postby SomeCatchyName9 » Thu Nov 10, 2016 11:35 am

Feedback is welcome. Almost 500 views!! XD
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Re: Wannabe (Neutral Unknown) - 350+ Views!!

Postby SomeCatchyName9 » Sat Nov 12, 2016 4:14 pm

One problem I've realised with this role is that once there is a known Wannabe, it just can't win. Mafia will make sure the Wannabe is lynched before their final kill.

For this reason, I'm thinking of giving the Wannabe a disguiser-like effect, where if a Wannabe dies at night, it is revealed as whatever role it disguised as that night. How does that sound?
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Re: Wannabe (Neutral Unknown) - 350+ Views!!

Postby SomeCatchyName9 » Wed Nov 16, 2016 11:22 am

SomeCatchyName9 wrote:One problem I've realised with this role is that once there is a known Wannabe, it just can't win. Mafia will make sure the Wannabe is lynched before their final kill.

For this reason, I'm thinking of giving the Wannabe a disguiser-like effect, where if a Wannabe dies at night, it is revealed as whatever role it disguised as that night. How does that sound?

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Re: Wannabe (Neutral Unknown) - 350+ Views!!

Postby DotStar » Thu Dec 22, 2016 4:03 pm

Sheriff should not get mafia message. It is a mafia REJECT for a reason.
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Re: Wannabe (Neutral Unknown) - 350+ Views!!

Postby SomeCatchyName9 » Sat Mar 04, 2017 8:53 am

DotStar wrote:Sheriff should not get mafia message. It is a mafia REJECT for a reason.

Hmmm not a bad idea...
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Re: Wannabe (Neutral Unknown) - 350+ Views!!

Postby PhannToM » Sat Mar 04, 2017 10:07 am

Lol this is role is crazy. He really is a wanabe in the end he gets lynched by mafia ^_^
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Re: Wannabe (Neutral Unknown) - 100+ Views!!

Postby Parallax7 » Sat Mar 04, 2017 10:10 am

BlazinIce wrote:Huh neat
It's a made up role category
Neutral Chaos would be better for this, because it doesn't fit into anything else.


Hmm, yeah. I dislike how this relies on the entire Mafia Faction. Obviously you'd insta lose if there were only one Maf.
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Re: Wannabe (Neutral Unknown) - 350+ Views!!

Postby SomeCatchyName9 » Sun Mar 05, 2017 11:09 am

Joshuabfagan wrote:
BlazinIce wrote:Huh neat
It's a made up role category
Neutral Chaos would be better for this, because it doesn't fit into anything else.


Hmm, yeah. I dislike how this relies on the entire Mafia Faction. Obviously you'd insta lose if there were only one Maf.

The maf would insta lose too, this is not a problem with the Wannabe, it's how All Any works.
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Re: Wannabe (Neutral Unknown) - 100+ Views!!

Postby GodFocker » Tue Apr 11, 2017 9:10 pm

WindBlqde wrote:
SomeCatchyName9 wrote:Ok I've got an idea. What if I change the Wannabe's win conditions, so:

Wannabe becomes NB
It just needs to survive until the end of the game, like Survivor, BUT...
When a Wannabe wins, everyone else loses. So people must kill the Wannabe.
I'll give the Wannabe full immunity if I change its win condition.
Of course, it will keep the disguise ability to escape detection.

How does that sound?

NBs win with everyone.


Amnesiacs don't "win" with everyone. (unless they remember surv lol)
They get the win conditions of the role they remembered.

SomeCatchyName9 wrote:1. It can't win with NKs - NEs win with anyone but town


Whoever told you this.... what?
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