ladd wrote:Kirize is probably scum, the distancing from the mafia kill was scummy, the bit where he wonders if Cham claimed Citizen in particular just looks fake, considering the fact that he thought the kill was strange and Cham was scummy, it's unlikely that he missed the post considering Cham had like four fucking posts with three words each. He implies he scumreads Hark in basically every post from D1, but he talks to him as if he is Town tonally, the "scumslips" are retarded and that's bad logic even for him. I also completely agree with Hip case on him early D1, it doesn't really look like he believed in the questions he was making and was just trying to look Town, most of his questions have no follow up from what I read.
I don't agree with some of this. I forgot that Cham had claimed cit as well and needed to go back and check, so unless you want to scumread me as well with the same reasoning, I don't consider this argument valid.
I don't like trying to read Kirize given that most of the time he just goes around asking tons of questions with little followup or meaning behind them. That being said, I don't necesarilly think that what he was doing in terms of his 'pushes' early game were indicative of anything. I just read through his ISO and yeah he's got a scumlean on Hark but I don't see it as a full fledged belief that he's scum. Yes I see what you're referencing with the implications, but tbh I don't see it as scummy on Kirize's part.
What I do see as scummy, though, is his behavior all through day 2. More than just distancing, the odd "scumslip"s that he's been calling out and not perusing. He's contributing on a very surface level, whereas he's usually an 'in your face' type of player iirc.