Episode XI | Rerolled (TrueGent wins!)

[TrueGent]

Current Vote Count

Player	Votes	Voters
	#	Votes Until Majority

[James2]

And James, you keep asking for people to say why they don't want to lynch him - plese explain why you do.

Because he's scum, duh.

Idea: You stop acting like you're better than everyone and play the fucking game correctly. A king is nothing without respect.

It's not my fault that I'm the best player here.

[SamuelJackson1972]

OH WOW AMAZING MISA IS BEING REPLACED and now no one's questions will be answered. And James, you keep asking for people to say why they don't want to lynch him - plese explain why you do.


Alouvre welcome to the game please don't be as shit as Hark was... Oh wait... Sigh.

Actually I find this hilarious because normally you're really good at scum hunting so you're going to feel like a dumbass when you see I'm Town. I'll excuse you because you just replaced in, but seriously, dumb.

And Ryan, if you could please stop following your scum buddy around on votes, that would be lovely.

And let's add Forgoten to the list of scum. Let's continue to load down this wagon with stupidity.

I'm sorry, I just can't take this post seriously.
I mean, you're being voted by multiple people with two days left and you don't even refute their reasoning.
The OMGUS though.
/vote melanora

It's not my fault that I'm the best player here.

Then show it, simple as that.

[LordofFail]

I did. A townie should know claiming witched is a bad move. It really gives a townie nothing to do, but is good for scum so they can coordinate. Smells scum.

What the fuck am I reading?

Because clearly hiding night actions is protown

FoS theforgot3n1

[LordofFail]

Holy fuck this sheep wagon on Mel though

Even semi-drunk lof knows this is a fucking terrible idea lol

[ryanyb]

Holy fuck this sheep wagon on Mel though

Even semi-drunk lof knows this is a fucking terrible idea lol

1) LoF, did you not read the debate over claiming witched. There was actually a pretty decent debate, and you can pick sides after you read it instead of sticking to what you think to be true.

2) LoF did you even read my post. The scum slip was so fucking huge. If she is actually town after that im going to need to re-evaluate my life. Yes wagons forming quickly is a bit sketchy, but this is the first very legitimate case anyone has made as of yet unless you would like to argue otherwise. (And if you would, please articulate as to why). If you are against this wagon for any reason other than the speed of it, please explain why. Opinions are good.

Go take a nap and get the alcohol out of your system, you're bad enough of a player without additional intoxication.¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[ryanyb]

Also, the only person on this wagon that didn't have this opinion of mel being sketchy for at least 10 pages (with good reasoning behind the accusations as well) is Samuel and maybe Kirize since he didn't speak on the topic much. It's not like people are just jumping on this wagon out of nowhere, everyone here except Samuel would be acting scummy if they were'nt on the wagon because of their reads prior to the scumslip; unless there's something glaringly wrong that I'm missing, BCS this wagon is 100% natural, WCS it's a tad bit fast.

[ryanyb]

That face when you can't tell if LoF missing two pages of good discussion and FoSing 3n1 and speaking against the wagon is:
>LoF being drunk
>LoF skimming the thread
>LoF being bad

[ryanyb]

(ALSO IM SORRY AHEAD OF TIME FOUR POSTS DEAL WITH IT IM SORRY)
James, you're playing like shit. There is literally only one situation that I can follow where you are town (albeit I guess worth it in said scenario, but still really, really selfish).
We could always use some more hands scumhunting since the only ones genuinely doing it appear to be LoF (albeit poor), Forgot3n to an extent, Kirize (but not in the past 48 hours), Hark's/Alou, M4x's slot pre-jammy, and myself.
So that's 1/3? I guess that's not horrible, but it could be better.

Im super paranoid of this wagon going out of control, and im headed off to sleep, so until tomorrow, /unvote with intent to re-vote Mel tomorrow in 9 ish hours.

[PersianRugs]

Hello, we need those ISOs for the new players.

You know this reminds me of a game that I played with Mela before and she was scum. I am gonna take a look at it.

Also, how does everyone feel about telling the roleblockers. Yes, ik there isn't exactly 3 roleblockers, but just an idea. I do know a way to tell the roleblockers who to roleblock without having multiple roleblockers roleblocking the same person. This way, we can find the SK much easier.

[PersianRugs]

The game is 9F btw.

I was looking on the final days and the behavior looks awfully similar. She was aggressive, insulting others, and was trying really hard to not get lynched.

[alouvre]

[...]

In Mel's ISO, there's a few things that look scummy to me.

1. was their vote and somewhat tunneling toward Hark. Literally what.
2. was their attitude towards Misa.

why?

[...]
I'm sorry, I just can't take this post seriously.
I mean, you're being voted by multiple people with two days left and you don't even refute their reasoning.
The OMGUS though.
/vote melanora
[...]

I can't take this post seriously because if anyone is doing OMGUS it's actually me and if mel flips mafia this looks like terrible bussing

[alouvre]

sorry forgot stuff. ryan, why do you think mel is neutral?

Hello, we need those ISOs for the new players.

You know this reminds me of a game that I played with Mela before and she was scum. I am gonna take a look at it.

Also, how does everyone feel about telling the roleblockers. Yes, ik there isn't exactly 3 roleblockers, but just an idea. I do know a way to tell the roleblockers who to roleblock without having multiple roleblockers roleblocking the same person. This way, we can find the SK much easier.

what do you mean by the last paragraph? I think it's sufficient to just tell the roleblockers who to roleblock in the thread if really necessary, but it's not necessarily and actually a bad idea because the SK could get lucky and hit one of the roleblockers when they aren't the ones getting roleblocked.

just let it play out on its own. if these roleblocks are legitimate we already cleared three people of being sk anyway.

[TheForgot3n1]

Also, how does everyone feel about telling the roleblockers. Yes, ik there isn't exactly 3 roleblockers, but just an idea. I do know a way to tell the roleblockers who to roleblock without having multiple roleblockers roleblocking the same person. This way, we can find the SK much easier.

Tell us more about this mister Rugs.

[SamuelJackson1972]

[...]

In Mel's ISO, there's a few things that look scummy to me.

1. was their vote and somewhat tunneling toward Hark. Literally what.
2. was their attitude towards Misa.

why?

[...]
I'm sorry, I just can't take this post seriously.
I mean, you're being voted by multiple people with two days left and you don't even refute their reasoning.
The OMGUS though.
/vote melanora
[...]

I can't take this post seriously because if anyone is doing OMGUS it's actually me and if mel flips mafia this looks like terrible bussing

Okay so throw back to this real quick. I think that Cham was actually the intended N1 kill. The whole, saying that you can redirect mafia on who to kill, it's like baiting the Mafia, saying that we can control them. And note how Hark replies. He's like... how?! And then even points out that this is the kid's second game, given how we don't kill new people N1.

Kirize mentions that Cham is an odd choice, and Hark is immediately like, stop chit chatting and hypoclaim. He doesn't give a shit about the Mafia Kill, just wants claims from people.

And then, look at the bit with Lexiam at the start of D2. Hark immediately asks if Lexiam was trying to kill someone else, and was witched onto Cham. Um... that's odd? So you go from only wanting hypoclaims and ignoring other people talking about the Mafia kill, and then suddenly Lexiam is there claiming witched, and you now have an opinion on the Mafia kill? That's weird.

Why did it take you so long to form an opinion on the Mafia kill? Why do you just autoassume that the Mafia kill was someone not intended? Were you just waiting to see who was witched to claim that they were redirected onto the new kid? Yeah... total scum move.

/vote Hark

Are you drunk?

[alouvre]

how is it omgus if she scumread hark before he or I did

[SamuelJackson1972]

how is it omgus if she scumread hark before he or I did

Spoiler:

mel, I find it hard to believe the town you will be pursuing ryan. and "if you want votes for misa, then say so, hark" is a funny sentence.

Okay so throw back to this real quick. I think that Cham was actually the intended N1 kill. The whole, saying that you can redirect mafia on who to kill, it's like baiting the Mafia, saying that we can control them. And note how Hark replies. He's like... how?! And then even points out that this is the kid's second game, given how we don't kill new people N1.

Kirize mentions that Cham is an odd choice, and Hark is immediately like, stop chit chatting and hypoclaim. He doesn't give a shit about the Mafia Kill, just wants claims from people.

And then, look at the bit with Lexiam at the start of D2. Hark immediately asks if Lexiam was trying to kill someone else, and was witched onto Cham. Um... that's odd? So you go from only wanting hypoclaims and ignoring other people talking about the Mafia kill, and then suddenly Lexiam is there claiming witched, and you now have an opinion on the Mafia kill? That's weird.

Why did it take you so long to form an opinion on the Mafia kill? Why do you just autoassume that the Mafia kill was someone not intended? Were you just waiting to see who was witched to claim that they were redirected onto the new kid? Yeah... total scum move.

/vote Hark

1. so are you saying hark set himself up to look like he didn't kill cham by acknowledging cham's newness?

2. hark is a hypoagressive player. that isn't AI. continued in my third point.

3. that's not odd. fm is a fluid game. you change priorities, reads, opinions all the time. this is also a refutation to the "lol hark was doubting how to scumhunt d1 and then he started to scumhunt himself lol xdxd".

4. "why do you autoassume that mafia kill was someone not intended" - maybe because of the reason you're trying to use against hark in the first paragraph, where he questioned* whether this was cham's second game and how "we don't kill new people n1." if you're going to use this argument keep it cosistent. hark can't set himself up for looking like he didn't kill cham because he's new and be scummy for autoassuming the mafia didn't hit their intended target at the same time.

*hark never pointed out anything. there was no indication that his question was rhetorical.

Q: are you omgusing!!!
A: yes.

/vote melanora

You tell me.

[alouvre]

are we even on the same page? what are you trying to say?

[PersianRugs]

Nvm about the roleblocker plan because SK might hit roleblockers.

But you guys should take a look at 9F mela's ISO.

[James2]

I'm not sure why we're lynching Melanora. What reason is there to think she's scum.

[alouvre]

three big reasons

- her only scumreads were made in one sweep for an inherently flawed reason, see my previous post.

- she completely ignored the response of the person who she is scumreading, instead lumping another person in just for voting her, instead of defending herself.

- that slip ryan pointed out.

[alex1234321]

Are we planning on hammering Mela or just pressuring her?

[alouvre]

what do you want to do

[SamuelJackson1972]

are we even on the same page? what are you trying to say?

I meant that your post seems to imply that you think they're omgusing.

[alouvre]

I don't think mel is omgusing and I don't see how my post implies it. your post is a better fit for that description, with the "that omgus though" and then the vote. now you seem to be implying otherwise. are you intentionally trying to confuse people?