SFM15 | III | Game Over | Mafia Wins | Karma is a Bitch

[Rickdaily12]

So you know exactly how it works? Interesting. Not a word of confusion?

[SirCakez]

He hasn't been doing much scumhunting and has been hands-off in general the whole game which I dislike on top of the lurking. Like he explained the Mel stuff but he's barely done anything of all day three aside from that.

[Rickdaily12]

Could your item activate prior to the Day 3/Night 3 Cycle at all without you knowing?

[KingOfEvil]

So you know exactly how it works? Interesting. Not a word of confusion?

I know what actions I am required to send every day. From there, I have no more say in the matters each day.

[SirCakez]

He might have just completely flaked out though idk. But what was there from him wasn't very good.

[Rickdaily12]

He might have just completely flaked out though idk. But what was there from him wasn't very good.

Quote any posts from his slot that grants you objections, or please stop this.

[KingOfEvil]

Could your item activate prior to the Day 3/Night 3 Cycle at all without you knowing?

No, it requires a very specific trigger. Only D3/N3 at minimum was the case. That day is now extended to D4/N4, but could be extended indefinitely depending. This activation is my death by the way, no one elses.

[SirCakez]

On mobile, will do tomorrow. It's really a lack of posts with scum hunting though.

[Rickdaily12]

So. The only way to know if your item has been activated, is the death text that prompts from you?

Do the actions required to delay this self-destruct doomsday change each day, or do they remain the same?

[KingOfEvil]

So. The only way to know if your item has been activated, is the death text that prompts from you?

Do the actions required to delay this self-destruct doomsday change each day, or do they remain the same?

It is remaining the same since D1. If I died to it, I presume I would show as my dying to my item.

[Rickdaily12]

1. So, to your knowledge, any negative effect your item has currently had on this game, has already happened OR already been averted?
2. Would your compulsive action have worked today had I not appeared alongside Gobln?
3. Were you responsible for the Day shortening yesterday?
4. Do you have any idea who else would die with you, if your item were to kill you?
5. Have you already completed today's compulsive action?
6. Did you have a compulsive action on Day 1?
7. Can Scum die as a result of this item? Is there a way to guarantee this?

Spoiler: You keep making very specific references to time:

Did someone bring the ocarina of time as their item? Will we have time travel and repeat shenanigans?

There was also no NK kill tonight, but the day was shortened yesterday which would have had to obviously been a day action. Did the NK perhaps forego a possible kill for less time in the day? Something of a Saw killer who could shorten a stopwatch among a list of actions could make sense. Does anyone have further input?

You also make interesting notes about compulsive actions. First you hypothesize that the NK has day actions that they may make use of to harm the Town. Next, you hypothesize that 11th has compulsive Night actions.

8. So, my question is- Yes, or No, do you know who or what was responsible for:

A: The day shortening?
B:. The lack of 2nd NK Torture killing?


I would like you to quote this entire post, and answer all of these questions.

[Watt2015]

Food for thought..

Our "Captain" esque role.. First targeted K1ll, then Me. The person they directed us to both nights.. LoF.

Here's a question.. Why? If you ask me, LoF was acting fairly Town.
I could understand a N1 target out of randomness, but 2 nights in a row?
Not to mention, the night he died, the doll was meant to be thrust at him... as well as an item "clean".

This makes me think, not only is it strange that LoF was the target of our actions (or intended target), but he happened to die the night I was meant to trade with him, and he was cleaned in alignment and item?

Wouldn't that clean up my item, but still end LoF with a loss?

Are these events coincidence? Or related?

[KingOfEvil]

1. So, to your knowledge, any negative effect your item has currently had on this game, has already happened OR already been averted?

The negative effect is my own death. I only ever stated I am being used by my item, and D3/N3 could have been catastrophic. That was referencing my own possible death by my own item. Many players continue to assume it was something related globally, which I never stated. What I originally brought up was the Day 3 motif of disaster/chaos in multiple items, be it global or individual. I never stated mine was one or the other, until I did state only I could die directly from my item.

2. Would your compulsive action have worked today had I not appeared alongside Gobln?

My compulsive action is sent every day, and I have received results from Invenio each time I've had to make an action so far, it is unrelated to yours and Gobln's arrival. It will continue in this fashion once you both leave too.

3. Were you responsible for the Day shortening yesterday?

I was not. I've speculated on this a couple times myself in my ISO.

4. Do you have any idea who else would die with you, if your item were to kill you?

No one dies with me, I die alone. What other players do is out of my control though.

5. Have you already completed today's compulsive action?

I have sent in my action already.

6. Did you have a compulsive action on Day 1?

I have a compulsive action every day, including D1.

7. Can Scum die as a result of this item? Is there a way to guarantee this?

Anyone can die as a result of a chain of actions related to my action, but those are out of my control. I can't guarantee someone could die even if I wanted them to.

Spoiler: You keep making very specific references to time:

Did someone bring the ocarina of time as their item? Will we have time travel and repeat shenanigans?

There was also no NK kill tonight, but the day was shortened yesterday which would have had to obviously been a day action. Did the NK perhaps forego a possible kill for less time in the day? Something of a Saw killer who could shorten a stopwatch among a list of actions could make sense. Does anyone have further input?

You also make interesting notes about compulsive actions. First you hypothesize that the NK has day actions that they may make use of to harm the Town. Next, you hypothesize that 11th has compulsive Night actions.

8. So, my question is- Yes, or No, do you know who or what was responsible for:

A: The day shortening?
No.
B:. The lack of 2nd NK Torture killing?
No

I've stated theories that NK must be a day action role as you've quoted from me. Neasans received her gun at the start of the night which could only have happened if this player had to complete this action during the day. A secondary day action in the day shortening may be related, as I've mentioned. 11th merely stated they have a compulsive night action themselves, I brought this up because this would mean if 11th is scum, there is a great chance they are not the existent NK but rather mafia, or they lied about having compulsive night actions.


I would like you to quote this entire post, and answer all of these questions.

[Rickdaily12]

I want you to repeat that, but separate your answers from my quote post please. If you don't mind.

I'd also like you to adjust your answer to Question 4, if you don't mind. You've said before that other players' actions could result in a chain of deaths. Do you have any clue, if at all, how to stop that from happening? Do you know more than you're letting on here?

And add a Question 9:

If I told you that Gobln had actually sent me a kill order on you 24 hours ago, would you agree that it is in the Town's better interest to accept?

[Invenio]

Well shit I missed a vote from 11th in the early part of the day phase.
This is why we separate our votes on new lines :/
This vote didn't result in a lynch at all. It's entirely my fault for missing it.

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[Rickdaily12]

^ You. Don't go to bed for a bit please.

[Invenio]

CJ's been prodded for inactivity.

[KingOfEvil]

1. The negative effect is my own death. I only ever stated I am being used by my item, and D3/N3 could have been catastrophic. That was referencing my own possible death by my own item. Many players continue to assume it was something related globally, which I never stated. What I originally brought up was the Day 3 motif of disaster/chaos in multiple items, be it global or individual. I never stated mine was one or the other, until I did state only I could die directly from my item.

2. My compulsive action is sent every day, and I have received results from Invenio each time I've had to make an action so far, it is unrelated to yours and Gobln's arrival. It will continue in this fashion once you both leave too.

3. I was not. I've speculated on this a couple times myself in my ISO.

4. No one dies with me, I die alone. What other players do is out of my control though.
Revised: Not a chain of deaths as I see it, more likely just one death at most every time I act, even if that happens to be the case. The chance of another dying is low. The only way I know to stop any deaths related to me is for other players to play smart, as I said that part if out of my control.

5. I have sent in my action already.

6. I have a compulsive action every day, including D1.

7. Anyone can die as a result of a chain of actions related to my action, but those are out of my control. I can't guarantee someone could die even if I wanted them to.

8. a) No.
b) No.

9. No, it is not in town's best interest. What I didn't mention is that my actions can save players as well, with a much much higher chance of saving a player than a player dying from my actions. There's a reason my own life is at jeopardy.

[Rickdaily12]

Thank you. Nothing further.

[Killthestory]

Rick I want you to use you're psyche lock on this.

I visited LoF, and I didn't do an action to him that night at all. I also was not roleblocked. There is no possible loopholes to this as I visited LoF and commited no action upon him.

[Killthestory]

now you will see I cant be NK, and it's unlikely I am mafia.

[Rickdaily12]

now you will see I cant be NK, and it's unlikely I am mafia.

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[Rickdaily12]

Okay. -FOR NOW-, I'm going to say that you can trust KoE and Watt.

[Killthestory]

did you even read the post above you fucktard omg youre not even trying to act godly

[Rickdaily12]

Okay. -FOR NOW-, I'm going to say that you can trust KoE and Watt.

Also, Invenio, you can go ahead and cancel any Kill Order that Gobln put out for KingofEvil. I veto that. He'll have to send in a new one.