better roles than exe and jester

[OxbowSnake25]

hey again im sorry but these roles are stupid as heck, can you get better roles and take executioner and jester or they are just boring and unfair

[shapesifter13]

Those are actually my two favorite roles, and they play an important part in game balance. Jester claims or faking Jester is important as it allows for potential punishment for hanging the wrong person. The Exe gives something for the bad guys to claim the investigative roles are.

[OxbowSnake25]

look its just my opinion this is why one day im going make this game again with out the stupid ass roles such as executioner, serial killer and mafia and get better roles meaning a newer version

[Nellyfox]

Moving to Suggestions.

If these roles were taken out only NE would be witch. Jester and Executioner cause doubt and can be fun.

[VoidRuler]

Those are actually my two favorite roles, and they play an important part in game balance. Jester claims or faking Jester is important as it allows for potential punishment for hanging the wrong person. The Exe gives something for the bad guys to claim the investigative roles are.

^ This.

I had a game yesterday where the mafia won because the Godfather claimed/acted like Jester.

[theo07]

look its just my opinion this is why one day im going make this game again with out the stupid ass roles such as executioner, serial killer and mafia and get better roles meaning a newer version

Without mafia,sk?Really? Good luck.

And yes,it is your opinion.We know,but we also have the right to say that we don't like it.

[EmeraldSpashu]

look its just my opinion this is why one day im going make this game again with out the stupid ass roles such as executioner, serial killer and mafia and get better roles meaning a newer version

Great idea if you don't like fun.
I think ill stay here.
With all the fun things.

[Alzar]

Have fun making your Mafia game that doesn't have a Mafia...?

[123nano]

This is the epitome of a horrible suggestion as it shows no real reason of why this should be done! Your opinion is not gonna change anything in this game!
You also say you are gonna make your own game without mafia!? Are you kidding me these types of games are based on Mafia the party game see there is no way to make a game like this without adding the "stupid" faction! By all means try to make a game like this without those "stupid" roles because if you don't like this game get out!

[VoidRuler]

Town VS. Arson or WW would literally be the worst game.

With only one or two evil against the town, it'd be too easy for the Town to win.

I believe the game you aren't looking for is not Town of Salem, but this:
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[Ansem555]

I think this picture is very applicable here:
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[orangeandblack5]

Honestly, I kind of half agree. Jester and Executioner are terrible Neutral Evil roles.

However, they aren't bad roles overall by any means. Doing something to make them more anti-Town or moving them to Neutral Benign are the best options. Having Exe die after hanging its target is also a very good idea. All they really do right now is stall and force kingmakers. This is bad for the game in the end, no matter how much disruption they cause in chat among casual players.

[TrueGent]

Jester is a garbage role that hurts the games balance at its core.
Exe is decent. It needs to be tweaked a bit so its not a permanent king-maker 90% of the time but its a decent enough role.

[OxbowSnake25]

i just dont think you need a group of killers
and i would no say take off sk if escort and jailor didnt die when they either jail or escort him/her so thats why i want that to change

[Alzar]

You... don't need a group of killers?

So... what would the Town be against, if you removed the entire Mafia?

[OxbowSnake25]

well i would create better people as killers but not as a group so

[Alzar]

That's not a game of Mafia at all, then. And Town of Salem is literally based on the Mafia party game, didn't you know?

[TrueGent]

well i would create better people as killers but not as a group so

ah yes, the elusive "better people". Only the greatest series of roles.

No.

[OxbowSnake25]

erm no its not it did not say that when i got it so lying arse

[Alzar]

So, if you're going to make "a better game", why are you still posting here?

[OxbowSnake25]

well im doing ict at college and level 2 does making games so when i finish level 1 i will go onto level 2

[Alzar]

Doesn't answer my question. What kind of better game could you make? And if it'd be so good, why are you still bothering to post here?

[OxbowSnake25]

1. no exe and jester
2. better killing roles
3. if doing serial killer take off the sk kills escort and jailor when jailed and roleblocked
4 and remove the commit suicide on vigilante
5. and loads others
6. im not able to yet i'm not on the course with making games on but next year at college will be
7. and see what you actually do

[VoidRuler]

1. no exe and jester
2. better killing roles
3. if doing serial killer take off the sk kills escort and jailor when jailed and roleblocked
4 and remove the commit suicide on vigilante
5. and loads others
6. im not able to yet i'm not on the course with making games on but next year at college will be
7. and see what you actually do

1. Please make an explanation of why you think the Executioner and Jester should be removed.
2. What type of "better killing roles"? Can you link me to some from the Role Ideas forum, or show me roles you made yourself?
3. Serial Killer is the best of the three Neutral Killings in my opinion. Arsonist is the worst, being as it's too slow and has just horrid Investigation results. Werewolf is meh, in the middle. Why take off that the SK kills Escort and Jailor? SK would be too powerful of a role if it didn't have it's drawbacks, considering it's the fastest of all NKs.
4. This punishes the Vigilante from shooting at random. If this was removed, Vigilante could just random shoot anyone he wanted in hopes of shooting an evil. The incentive of Vigi's bullets is to shoot when they have enough info that a player is scum.
5. "loads others" I don't know what you mean by this.
6. Then why are you making suggestions for this game without giving any type of explanation if you're making your own with these anyway? Plus, good luck with doing that as you have this and EpicMafia to compete with.
7. "and see what you actually do" I don't know what you mean by this either.

[shapesifter13]

I think you may be underestimating how much work goes into creating, advertising, and managing a game with multiple people working on it as well as gathering art from artists, coming up with new ideas to add to the game, as well as monetizing everything to be able to pay all of the people working on the game, as well as possibly working on new ideas to grow the company that you are creating.