Escort skin opinion (POLL)

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Which Escort do you like more?

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Orange hair (right)
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Both look great :)
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I don't care
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Re: Escort skin opinion (POLL)

Postby Ozyrox » Sat Mar 21, 2015 4:25 am

God dang it you guys 74 posts. I wonder who got 69....

and also yes the red looks like the cartoon girl that greenpanda put up.
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Re: Escort skin opinion (POLL)

Postby Mroz4k » Sat Mar 21, 2015 9:51 am

Ozyrox wrote:God dang it you guys 74 posts. I wonder who got 69....

and also yes the red looks like the cartoon girl that greenpanda put up.


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Re: Escort skin opinion (POLL)

Postby nightspirit174 » Sat Mar 21, 2015 9:08 pm

I personally prefer the right one, it has more contrast in it where I wonder if the left one might be a bit hard to tell where the hair ends and the dress begins at the back?
Obviously my opinion may be a little biased but I agree that this looks more like a mafia member than a townie, even if she doesn't fit into the Consort's story as well.
I also think that the bit of her dress where there's the gap in her legs shouldn't have lines on it, just have it shaded with the light patch between the lines shaded as well. I did work out what it was but.....she looks a little like she has something between her legs. :?

Gobln wrote:What ever happened to nightspirits design?

I was told that they were making an escort design already, this one I assume, and that they were going to make multiple skins for the same classes, like the arso and doc has two skins right now.

jestyrspirit wrote:So out of curiosity can I assume that your whole art department is a bunch of 15 year old boys. I mean seriously guys you have quite a large female player base here maybe we can stop trying desperately to run them off.

I think they've only got one person designing the avatars, and one on houses, so when there's only one person it's easy to make choices that not everyone's happy with.
Also I think they were mostly focusing on it to be an obvious reference to Jessica Rabbit, who's a pretty famous Disney character.

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Arckas wrote:I believe the fan design has that cute and sweet edge to it that makes it appropriate to be an Escort
Whereas this one is a bit more malicious as you would imagine a Consort.

Which fan design? Mine or hadaalia's?

n0valite wrote:Lol, if you give the escort a green dress, I'd think she'd look like Ivy from Batman.

So she would, which version was it that had the purple gloves? :)

lionon wrote:I found this way better:
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I'm glad you liked it. :D

Also on the subject of the community having a say in choices and avatar designs:
First of all with all the kickstarter stuff the Devs are probably too bussy right now to comment on the forums much and to keep an eye on what we think of everything. I don't know how they've been in the past before.
Second, I wonder if it's partly kept from us so that there's a surprise for us? I can understand them wanting to do that but I think there's enough people not on the froums that you can let those on the forums in the loop.

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Re: Escort skin opinion (POLL)

Postby Arckas » Sun Mar 22, 2015 1:06 am

nightspirit174 wrote:
Arckas wrote:I believe the fan design has that cute and sweet edge to it that makes it appropriate to be an Escort

Which fan design? Mine or hadaalia's?

hadaalia's, and for reference.
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Re: Escort skin opinion (POLL)

Postby Ansem555 » Sun Mar 22, 2015 3:26 am

I voted for the one with the orange hair. It catches the reference that much more by not being the same red as her dress.

I don't really see how people can complain about this skin being sexualized or saying the art department must be 15 year olds like some. The Nurse Skin and this one are references to Nurse Akali from League of Legends and Jessica Rabbit from Who Framed Roger Rabbit. Have a problem? Take it up with the people who made the things that are being referenced.

Seriously, who knew chest fat was so controversial.

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Re: Escort skin opinion (POLL)

Postby lionon » Sun Mar 22, 2015 6:13 am

nightspirit174 wrote:Also I think they were mostly focusing on it to be an obvious reference to Jessica Rabbit, who's a pretty famous Disney character.


This might develop into real problem tough. Disney is well feared in the creative industry to sue the hell out of anybody that makes anything that resembles one of their character a tad too closely.

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Re: Escort skin opinion (POLL)

Postby nightspirit174 » Sun Mar 22, 2015 9:08 am

For all the people not happy with the skins I've made a poll so we can narrow down exactly what it is we do want.

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Re: Escort skin opinion (POLL)

Postby kirekun » Mon Mar 23, 2015 6:19 am

Male Escorts please
Should be Sexy and Muscular as if its pr0n material
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Re: Escort skin opinion (POLL)

Postby MrsMeowingtons » Mon Mar 23, 2015 9:40 am

Orange hair looks waaaay better. The red hair just kind of blends in with the dress.
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Re: Escort skin opinion (POLL)

Postby lionon » Mon Mar 23, 2015 11:39 am

kirekun wrote:Male Escorts please
Should be Sexy and Muscular as if its pr0n material


That would be fair enough.

When we do that women to pic them like that, then we should do it to men as well. Gender equality is not about prudeness but in consistency regardless of gender.
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Re: Escort skin opinion (POLL)

Postby Xosmi » Mon Mar 23, 2015 7:50 pm

The one with the orange hair is better, the redhead seems too plain since the dress is also red.
reminds me a lot of Jessica Rabbit from who framed Roger Rabbit too :D
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Re: Escort skin opinion (POLL)

Postby BlueKnight0729 » Sat Mar 28, 2015 10:03 pm

Xoxsmi wrote:The one with the orange hair is better, the redhead seems too plain since the dress is also red.
reminds me a lot of Jessica Rabbit from who framed Roger Rabbit too :D

That's because it is Jessica Rabbit.

Anyway, on topic, I'd say Orange. It stands out better next to the red dress. The version with Red hair looks very plain.
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Re: Escort skin opinion (POLL)

Postby RockFire » Sun Mar 29, 2015 9:09 am

I actually prefer the orange hair since it stands out more than the red hair with the red dress.

I'm also very glad to see a Who Framed Roger Rabbit reference!
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Re: Escort skin opinion (POLL)

Postby NigelB » Tue Mar 31, 2015 6:11 am

It's awesome i like it
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Re: Escort skin opinion (POLL)

Postby rainbowkitten » Tue Mar 31, 2015 8:01 am

It's creepy that the hair color is the same as the dress... should make it purple, or something. Now, that would stand out.
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Re: Escort skin opinion (POLL)

Postby nightspirit174 » Sat Apr 04, 2015 5:15 pm

Purple might look too simmiler with her gloves though....green could be nice. I wonder if she'd look less mafia like without the red colour so strong with her?
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Re: Escort skin opinion (POLL)

Postby Cortala » Wed Apr 08, 2015 8:11 pm

nightspirit174 wrote:I also think that the bit of her dress where there's the gap in her legs shouldn't have lines on it, just have it shaded with the light patch between the lines shaded as well. I did work out what it was but.....she looks a little like she has something between her legs. :?

Haha, oh god I cannot unsee that.
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Re: Escort skin opinion (POLL)

Postby nightspirit174 » Fri Apr 10, 2015 7:06 am

Cortala wrote:
nightspirit174 wrote:I also think that the bit of her dress where there's the gap in her legs shouldn't have lines on it, just have it shaded with the light patch between the lines shaded as well. I did work out what it was but.....she looks a little like she has something between her legs. :?

Haha, oh god I cannot unsee that.

I know.....I mean it's not something that's too too noticable but once you do see it.....
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Re: Escort skin opinion (POLL)

Postby Ayanhart » Mon Apr 13, 2015 6:30 pm

I really don't like how this and the nurse one are clearly based on other characters from other media and then not referencing them at all when it comes to the actual game. Surely copyright comes in there somewhere, idk how it works exactly but I'm fairly sure there could be some legal ramifications if Disney or Riot Games ever really took notice.

And yes the recent skins have been showing just how biased (and dare I say sexist, since that's apparently some big forbidden word?) the behind the scenes of the game is too. Male skins covered in full outfits, release two new female skins and they're skimpy as fuck with exaggerated features. No offence, but putting big-boobs on a character looks downright weird in the game's style - they take up like a quarter of the body.
This skin I can kinda understand, it's the Escort's schtick after all (though this seems more consort-y to me) but the nurse one was utterly uncalled for.
I get that it was a reference to a LoL skin, but LoL are hardly a shining example of dressing female characters decently...
Also, more subtle but still there. The female version is called the Nurse, which just makes me think of going back half a century or so when women weren't allowed to be doctors and had to be nurses... why couldn't it be a female doctor, why just a nurse?

Not to mention how all the skins are white. There's 0 diversity at all. And don't people dare use historical arguments against it. If they have people with flamethrowers they can have non-white people.

Buuut if they want to pander to their growing teenage boy fanbase and isolate the rest, good luck to them!
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Re: Escort skin opinion (POLL)

Postby parkerparkour » Mon Apr 13, 2015 6:37 pm

Ayanhart wrote:I really don't like how this and the nurse one are clearly based on other characters from other media and then not referencing them at all when it comes to the actual game. Surely copyright comes in there somewhere, idk how it works exactly but I'm fairly sure there could be some legal ramifications if Disney or Riot Games ever really took notice.

And yes the recent skins have been showing just how biased (and dare I say sexist, since that's apparently some big forbidden word?) the behind the scenes of the game is too. Male skins covered in full outfits, release two new female skins and they're skimpy as fuck with exaggerated features. No offence, but putting big-boobs on a character looks downright weird in the game's style - they take up like a quarter of the body.
This skin I can kinda understand, it's the Escort's schtick after all (though this seems more consort-y to me) but the nurse one was utterly uncalled for.
I get that it was a reference to a LoL skin, but LoL are hardly a shining example of dressing female characters decently...

Not to mention how all the skins are white. There's 0 diversity at all. And don't people dare use historical arguments against it. If they have people with flamethrowers they can have non-white people.

Buuut if they want to pander to their growing teenage boy fanbase and isolate the rest, good luck to them!


we've had two threads whining about this. neither have ended well.
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Re: Escort skin opinion (POLL)

Postby Gobln » Mon Apr 13, 2015 6:41 pm

Ayanhart wrote:I really don't like how this and the nurse one are clearly based on other characters from other media and then not referencing them at all when it comes to the actual game. Surely copyright comes in there somewhere, idk how it works exactly but I'm fairly sure there could be some legal ramifications if Disney or Riot Games ever really took notice.

And yes the recent skins have been showing just how biased (and dare I say sexist, since that's apparently some big forbidden word?) the behind the scenes of the game is too. Male skins covered in full outfits, release two new female skins and they're skimpy as fuck with exaggerated features. No offence, but putting big-boobs on a character looks downright weird in the game's style - they take up like a quarter of the body.
This skin I can kinda understand, it's the Escort's schtick after all (though this seems more consort-y to me) but the nurse one was utterly uncalled for.
I get that it was a reference to a LoL skin, but LoL are hardly a shining example of dressing female characters decently...

Not to mention how all the skins are white. There's 0 diversity at all. And don't people dare use historical arguments against it. If they have people with flamethrowers they can have non-white people.

Buuut if they want to pander to their growing teenage boy fanbase and isolate the rest, good luck to them!

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Why not nightspirits design? the community loved that. Meh, its getting hard to defend the devs.
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Re: Escort skin opinion (POLL)

Postby Deawyn » Mon Apr 13, 2015 6:45 pm

parkerparkour wrote:
Ayanhart wrote:I really don't like how this and the nurse one are clearly based on other characters from other media and then not referencing them at all when it comes to the actual game. Surely copyright comes in there somewhere, idk how it works exactly but I'm fairly sure there could be some legal ramifications if Disney or Riot Games ever really took notice.

And yes the recent skins have been showing just how biased (and dare I say sexist, since that's apparently some big forbidden word?) the behind the scenes of the game is too. Male skins covered in full outfits, release two new female skins and they're skimpy as fuck with exaggerated features. No offence, but putting big-boobs on a character looks downright weird in the game's style - they take up like a quarter of the body.
This skin I can kinda understand, it's the Escort's schtick after all (though this seems more consort-y to me) but the nurse one was utterly uncalled for.
I get that it was a reference to a LoL skin, but LoL are hardly a shining example of dressing female characters decently...

Not to mention how all the skins are white. There's 0 diversity at all. And don't people dare use historical arguments against it. If they have people with flamethrowers they can have non-white people.

Buuut if they want to pander to their growing teenage boy fanbase and isolate the rest, good luck to them!


we've had two threads whining about this. neither have ended well.
yes, whining :roll:


I hardly see how this is whining, you have the right to express your opinion and just because it's the same as yours doesn't mean it's downright wrong. Think twice before making this kind of comment, thank you.

On another hand, ugh. yeah this is Jessica Rabbit no doubt about that. She is an out of proportion character that's a fact but on the other hand issuing her as a skin isn't a good idea in my opinion.
I don't think ToS is the place for that, yes it has a caricatural dimension to the game but you don't have to get every females outrageously dressed, men should receive the same treatement; you know equality.

I just think a skin like that is a bit clumsy and there's tons of skins that would be more appropriate to the game than this one, it's a bit easy if you ask me, too easy.
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Re: Escort skin opinion (POLL)

Postby parkerparkour » Mon Apr 13, 2015 6:47 pm

Not talking about ayan, her argument actually has logical points to it (except for the isolation bit, which is false)
if you were in "that" thread, you know what im talking about
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Re: Escort skin opinion (POLL)

Postby Ayanhart » Mon Apr 13, 2015 6:51 pm

Ayanhart wrote:Also, more subtle but still there. The female version is called the Nurse, which just makes me think of going back half a century or so when women weren't allowed to be doctors and had to be nurses... why couldn't it be a female doctor, why just a nurse?

A bit I forgot first time. Maybe I'm just nit-picking now, but it's bugging me.
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Re: Escort skin opinion (POLL)

Postby Nellyfox » Mon Apr 13, 2015 6:54 pm

Would personally love nightspirit's design in-game. ToS is highly community run (roles/feedback/etc) so adding in works done by the community seems fitting.
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