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Exe Voting Town in Ranked

Postby Yemac » Sat Mar 20, 2021 11:08 am

I think there should be a counter to exes voting with town in ranked. There is no way for mafia to kill the exe. It's a perpetually immune town member. What do you think will be a good solution so I can make a suggestion topic of it?
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Re: Exe Voting Town in Ranked

Postby Descender » Sat Mar 20, 2021 11:14 am

exe will side with maf as soon as maf has split votes, thats your solution
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Re: Exe Voting Town in Ranked

Postby Yemac » Sat Mar 20, 2021 11:39 am

Descender wrote:exe will side with maf as soon as maf has split votes, thats your solution


That's not even remotely a solution though.
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Re: Exe Voting Town in Ranked

Postby Descender » Sat Mar 20, 2021 1:29 pm

Yemac wrote:
Descender wrote:exe will side with maf as soon as maf has split votes, thats your solution


That's not even remotely a solution though.

well what do you suggest?
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Re: Exe Voting Town in Ranked

Postby cob709 » Sat Mar 20, 2021 1:40 pm

Executioner loses their defense after lynching their target
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Re: Exe Voting Town in Ranked

Postby Descender » Sat Mar 20, 2021 2:02 pm

cob709 wrote:Executioner loses their defense after lynching their target

[dumb response bc i wasnt thinking]

that wastes a kill doe
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Re: Exe Voting Town in Ranked

Postby EqsyLootz » Sat Mar 20, 2021 2:13 pm

cob709 wrote:Executioner loses their defense after lynching their target

No they don't???
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Re: Exe Voting Town in Ranked

Postby syjfwbaobfwl » Sat Mar 20, 2021 2:44 pm

EqsyLootz wrote:
cob709 wrote:Executioner loses their defense after lynching their target

No they don't???


He was suggesting that as a solution
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Re: Exe Voting Town in Ranked

Postby Descender » Sat Mar 20, 2021 2:56 pm

syjfwbaobfwl wrote:
EqsyLootz wrote:
cob709 wrote:Executioner loses their defense after lynching their target

No they don't???


He was suggesting that as a solution

and its an okay one
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Re: Exe Voting Town in Ranked

Postby Yemac » Mon Mar 22, 2021 1:14 pm

Descender wrote:
Yemac wrote:
Descender wrote:exe will side with maf as soon as maf has split votes, thats your solution


That's not even remotely a solution though.

well what do you suggest?


Thats why I made this topic in Discussion and not on Suggestions lol
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Re: Exe Voting Town in Ranked

Postby Descender » Mon Mar 22, 2021 1:20 pm

Yemac wrote:
Descender wrote:
Yemac wrote:
Descender wrote:exe will side with maf as soon as maf has split votes, thats your solution


That's not even remotely a solution though.

well what do you suggest?


Thats why I made this topic in Discussion and not on Suggestions lol

..so you have no idea
on an issue which isnt even really a thing
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Re: Exe Voting Town in Ranked

Postby Pixies » Tue Mar 23, 2021 7:07 am

cob709 wrote:Executioner loses their defense after lynching their target


I like this idea, actually.

Why not letting them have the same basic 1-time defense as the witch? Once they are attacked, they lose their defense, so the maf/nk has the chance to kill them, regardless if they have their target lynched. The reason why I suggest that is because once the exe has their target lynched, they already won their game, so why should they continue to keep a defense, especially if they decide to "go afk since I already won"
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Re: Exe Voting Town in Ranked

Postby Descender » Tue Mar 23, 2021 8:49 am

Pixies wrote:
cob709 wrote:Executioner loses their defense after lynching their target


I like this idea, actually.

Why not letting them have the same basic 1-time defense as the witch? Once they are attacked, they lose their defense, so the maf/nk has the chance to kill them, regardless if they have their target lynched. The reason why I suggest that is because once the exe has their target lynched, they already won their game, so why should they continue to keep a defense, especially if they decide to "go afk since I already won"

thatll make the exe achievement inaccessible doe
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Re: Exe Voting Town in Ranked

Postby Yemac » Tue Mar 23, 2021 10:14 am

Descender wrote:
Pixies wrote:
cob709 wrote:Executioner loses their defense after lynching their target


I like this idea, actually.

Why not letting them have the same basic 1-time defense as the witch? Once they are attacked, they lose their defense, so the maf/nk has the chance to kill them, regardless if they have their target lynched. The reason why I suggest that is because once the exe has their target lynched, they already won their game, so why should they continue to keep a defense, especially if they decide to "go afk since I already won"

thatll make the exe achievement inaccessible doe


Then remove the achievement
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Re: Exe Voting Town in Ranked

Postby Yemac » Tue Mar 23, 2021 10:15 am

Descender wrote:
Yemac wrote:
Descender wrote:
Yemac wrote:
Descender wrote:exe will side with maf as soon as maf has split votes, thats your solution


That's not even remotely a solution though.

well what do you suggest?


Thats why I made this topic in Discussion and not on Suggestions lol

..so you have no idea
on an issue which isnt even really a thing


If you don't see it as an issue, you clearly haven't played much town of salem lol

I'm just trying to have input from the community, no need to be a salty sally about it :)
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Re: Exe Voting Town in Ranked

Postby Descender » Tue Mar 23, 2021 11:11 am

Yemac wrote:
Descender wrote:
Yemac wrote:
Descender wrote:
Yemac wrote:
Descender wrote:exe will side with maf as soon as maf has split votes, thats your solution


That's not even remotely a solution though.

well what do you suggest?


Thats why I made this topic in Discussion and not on Suggestions lol

..so you have no idea
on an issue which isnt even really a thing


If you don't see it as an issue, you clearly haven't played much town of salem lol

I'm just trying to have input from the community, no need to be a salty sally about it :)

salty about what :think:
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Re: Exe Voting Town in Ranked

Postby kyuss420 » Fri Mar 26, 2021 3:11 pm

Descender wrote:
cob709 wrote:Executioner loses their defense after lynching their target

[dumb response bc i wasnt thinking]

that wastes a kill doe


its not a bad idea....for ranked. For AA, it would suck.
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Re: Exe Voting Town in Ranked

Postby jelloman1 » Tue Apr 27, 2021 5:51 pm

im not trying to be salty when i say this, but exe is neutral evil, hes neutral, so he can vote whoever he wants, and the evil says ESPECIALLY his target. ive seen towns actually vote an exe's target when theyve got the last evil on lockdown, just so more people get the win, and ive seen mafia vote the exe just because itll be one less they deal with. so, im cool with exe keeping their immunity if theyve already won. it helps both evils and town because people who dont pay attention will vote him, or still call him out as evil despite already winning etc. and if hes already won, why not just be left alone? for now im saying no support, but not because i think its stupid but rather because it just doesnt seem like it would change anything in the long run
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Re: Exe Voting Town in Ranked

Postby ICECLIMBERS » Wed Apr 28, 2021 12:35 pm

have you tried killing the non immune town with night actions
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Re: Exe Voting Town in Ranked

Postby cmitc1 » Wed Apr 28, 2021 5:04 pm

exe is a pretty meh designed neutral evil.

He isnt as bad as jester, who legit has no right being in NE (really more of a neutral begin role), but he also doesnt really have to side with scum in the long run of the game like witch. (but atleast has to contribute to one bad thing for them)

The best thing for him is probably him dying after killing his target.
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Re: Exe Voting Town in Ranked

Postby Joacgroso » Wed Apr 28, 2021 5:35 pm

I think exes should be left alone. The role is fun, and making it die/lose immunity after winning would make victories very unsatisfying.

However, I agree that exes and jesters aren't as impactful as witches and it's weird that they share alignement. I think a good idea would be moving jesters and exes to a new alignement called "neutral lynching" and creating some other NE roles with the same goal as the witch. Or at least move jesters/exes to some other alignement. That idea wasn't mine, btw.
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Re: Exe Voting Town in Ranked

Postby JAF1970 » Mon May 17, 2021 8:00 pm

Nah. I like having exe dead and forced to remain in Hades. :twisted:
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Re: Exe Voting Town in Ranked

Postby Amythyr » Wed Aug 18, 2021 8:21 am

Exe can do what they like.

People tend to forget "neutral" in neutral evil.
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Re: Exe Voting Town in Ranked

Postby cob709 » Wed Aug 18, 2021 6:56 pm

Amythyr wrote:Exe can do what they like.

People tend to forget "neutral" in neutral evil.

nice necrobump

imo the evil subalignment should be opposed to the town, which is why i dont consider NE a good placement for jester/exe
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Re: Exe Voting Town in Ranked

Postby Ichbinderubermensch » Wed Oct 06, 2021 5:35 pm

The problem with Jester and Exe (in Ranked) is that the roles don't force the players to act as NE (be a nuisance to Town) from the beginning to the end.
In Jester case, their Victory Condition actually helps Town as it reduces the number of suspects and eliminates them as a possible kingmaker. Since their haunting isn't restricted to harm Town and rather can harm any faction (like a NC), the player is allowed to make Jester have a positive impact for Town (2for0) which obviously is the complete opposite of what NE is suppose to be.
In Exe case, their Victory Condition hurts Town a lot (if their target is a Trans, TP or LO) or a little (if their target is a Sheriff or a Med) and that allows Town to sometimes afford to "buy" the Exe's vote by letting them win; but the main problem is that once they win they're no longer forced to act as NE and can hurt any faction they want (like a NC). Once again, the player is allow to make Exe have a positive impact for Town (once they win, vote for town)

So, in order to accentuate their nE aspect, these are some ideas

If Exe successfully lynches their target, Town will mourn the death of the innocent Townie until the next morning (they can't use their abilities for the rest of the day and the following night).
Same with jester; if Jester gets succesfully lynched, Town will mourn the death of Jester until the next morning.

OR

If Exe succesfully lynches their target, they will be immediately put on trial and hanged the next morning regardless of the votes unless they died last night.

BOOM
Now Exe's WC harms Town too much to consider giving them a free win (or they get denied from having the chance to act as Neutral Chaos, in the second option); and Jester is forced to always have a negative impact on Town independingly who they haunt.
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