Remove Spy Role, It Ruins The Game!!!

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Re: Remove Spy Role, It Ruins The Game!!!

Postby orangeandblack5 » Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:29 pm

Kirize12 wrote:is it really a necrobump if the post didnt leave the page

Oh god is it that bad

Joacgroso wrote:Is this thread really from 2021?

Yeah, although to be fair Spy is still pretty much a hardcounter to most Mafia roles for the crime of existing so like that much hasn't changed
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Re: Remove Spy Role, It Ruins The Game!!!

Postby Joacgroso » Thu Nov 11, 2021 1:24 pm

I know, but people over here were still addressing his old abilities. If they want to talk about chat-reading, they should be complaining about vampire hunters.

Not like I don't agree with you, spies are still pretty bad.
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Re: Remove Spy Role, It Ruins The Game!!!

Postby Crona111 » Fri Nov 12, 2021 12:38 pm

Spies suck I agree and they should definitely be nerfed. Worst role in the game IMO
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Re: Remove Spy Role, It Ruins The Game!!!

Postby blackaxe3 » Fri Nov 12, 2021 3:38 pm

Even though this post is for the old version of Spy, I still think the seeing visits ability should just be removed. Having Spy’s ability to bug players is probably good on its own.
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Re: Remove Spy Role, It Ruins The Game!!!

Postby Crona111 » Fri Nov 12, 2021 5:25 pm

blackaxe3 wrote:Even though this post is for the old version of Spy, I still think the seeing visits ability should just be removed. Having Spy’s ability to bug players is probably good on its own.


I would nerf it's passive ability, not remove it. Have the Spy only see 1 visit, not all, and keep the bugs. Wouldn't make it a mediocre role, while not making it destroy majority of the mafia's roles.
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Re: Remove Spy Role, It Ruins The Game!!!

Postby Joacgroso » Fri Nov 12, 2021 6:22 pm

Bugging on it's own is pretty useless, especially if there are no lookouts. I think being able to see only one visit wouldn't fix much, it would only make the role more luck-based.
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Re: Remove Spy Role, It Ruins The Game!!!

Postby syjfwbaobfwl » Fri Nov 12, 2021 9:20 pm

blackaxe3 wrote:Even though this post is for the old version of Spy, I still think the seeing visits ability should just be removed. Having Spy’s ability to bug players is probably good on its own.


Good on its own? Its one of the most useless abilities, it barely has any uses besides confirming yourself
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Re: Remove Spy Role, It Ruins The Game!!!

Postby blackaxe3 » Wed Nov 17, 2021 11:06 pm

Well perhaps we should think of some completely new ability then. Or, a total removal of Spy could happen but that just doesn’t feel right.
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Re: Remove Spy Role, It Ruins The Game!!!

Postby Soulshade55r » Sat Nov 20, 2021 3:35 pm

blackaxe3 wrote:Well perhaps we should think of some completely new ability then. Or, a total removal of Spy could happen but that just doesn’t feel right.

I think spy completely changing is alright, i much rather have a new class with a old classes name then remove "x" when we know realistically that the devs wouldn't remove a class, also the fact is we'd be getting another new fun possibly balanced class out of it.

Plently of abilites like a faction compare or checking if a alive player visited a dead ect. Anything could really work and I think it would at least make the game a lot more fun for evils and for spies.
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