James2 wrote:Don’t leave.
cob709 wrote:leaving a game can affect the outcome, which is unfair to other players
as such you are punished for leaving while alive. you are also punished for leaving while dead, but slightly less severe
Don't leave your games.
Joacgroso wrote:I feel like I went from Light Yagami to Keiichi Maebara.
Joacgroso wrote:Honestly I wouldn't want to play with leavers, regardless of why they leave. If only someone added a reconnect button...
Joacgroso wrote:I feel like I went from Light Yagami to Keiichi Maebara.
Joacgroso wrote:It may not deter leavers, but at least it moves them away from me. Also, you can't possibly know if most leaving cases are genuine disconnects or not. If you do, you should back it up with something. If someone gets themselves killed in order to leave the game they can be punished for gamethrowing as long as they admit it, which happens many times. But yes, it would be better if there was a reconnect button, and maybe a lesser elo loss if leaving is something very uncommon for the player.
Colorbolt wrote:cob709 wrote:leaving a game can affect the outcome, which is unfair to other players
as such you are punished for leaving while alive. you are also punished for leaving while dead, but slightly less severe
Don't leave your games.
gl stopping the game from randomly disconnecting you broski
you saying this just makes me think that you never read the post or even used your brain before sending this
Superalex11 wrote:Colorbolt, what do you think the proportion is of players who get disconnected unintentionally to players who would choose to disconnect in unfavorable scenarios if they could without punishment?
Joacgroso wrote:Honestly I wouldn't want to play with leavers, regardless of why they leave. If only someone added a reconnect button...
Joacgroso wrote:It may not deter leavers, but at least it moves them away from me. Also, you can't possibly know if most leaving cases are genuine disconnects or not. If you do, you should back it up with something. If someone gets themselves killed in order to leave the game they can be punished for gamethrowing as long as they admit it, which happens many times. But yes, it would be better if there was a reconnect button, and maybe a lesser elo loss if leaving was something very uncommon for the player.
EqsyLootz wrote:Colorbolt wrote:cob709 wrote:leaving a game can affect the outcome, which is unfair to other players
as such you are punished for leaving while alive. you are also punished for leaving while dead, but slightly less severe
Don't leave your games.
gl stopping the game from randomly disconnecting you broski
you saying this just makes me think that you never read the post or even used your brain before sending this
Like the broski above stated, leaving whilst alive is against the rules and I strongly advise against it, it could warrent punishment and -30 elo as you stated.
Also get to masters elo it's only -15 there
Joacgroso wrote:I feel like I went from Light Yagami to Keiichi Maebara.
Colorbolt wrote:James2 wrote:Don’t leave.
That better be ironic because if not youre retarded.
Joacgroso wrote:If you really think that no one will leave in ranked if there is no punishment, you are being naive. I can imagine a lot of noobs thinking "my role is trash and I always lose when playing it, so I'll take the inevitable loss and leave day 1 so I can get the chance to actually win".
The reconnect button is not guaranteed not to happen. In fact, it is ""guaranteed to happen"", even though the devs have been saying the same for years. But as long as they don't confirm they won't implement it, there's no use in spreading misinformation.
I do think it would be nice if first time leavers got no penalty but then they got bigger and bigger penalties if they kept leaving. This will sound mean, but there's a way to avoid the server kicking you out: don't play if you know you are likely to disconnect. Not everyone has the same problem. And remember that leaving isn't only bad for you, it's also unfair for the other 14 people in the game.
Colorbolt wrote:Obviously there will be a small number of people who leave every once in a while but that makes up for the minority of leaving cases and its just not worth it to implement such a harsh punishment for disconnecting.
And as for the reconnect button, I don't believe we should make any really complex suggestions like reconnection that would take really long to actually code and make it not easy to abuse. The devs probably don't want to put that much effort into the game and my suggestion is way easier to implement than the reconnect button. It doesn't take much thought or effort coding.
Also, I almost never disconnect, but my problem is that the game makes it a massive headache every time you disconnect. It's actually like one of the most annoying things about ranked because of how ridiculously harsh the punishment is for your occasional disconnect. I'm not saying that it happens to me often: I'm saying that it's almost unbearably annoying when it does happen because the punishment is completely absurdly unnecessarily harsh.
Joacgroso wrote:I feel like I went from Light Yagami to Keiichi Maebara.
WildCard65 wrote:You got to be aware the server never receives a reason why someone is disconnected, not even for intentional disconnects, the socket is just closed either gracefully or ungracefully. Infact, I don't even think .NET has a way to differentiate a graceful socket disconnect versus and ungraceful disconnect. I mention .NET as Unity (the game's engine) is based on Mono which is a cross-platform implementation of the .NET Framework.
Joacgroso wrote:Colorbolt wrote:Obviously there will be a small number of people who leave every once in a while but that makes up for the minority of leaving cases and its just not worth it to implement such a harsh punishment for disconnecting.
And as for the reconnect button, I don't believe we should make any really complex suggestions like reconnection that would take really long to actually code and make it not easy to abuse. The devs probably don't want to put that much effort into the game and my suggestion is way easier to implement than the reconnect button. It doesn't take much thought or effort coding.
Also, I almost never disconnect, but my problem is that the game makes it a massive headache every time you disconnect. It's actually like one of the most annoying things about ranked because of how ridiculously harsh the punishment is for your occasional disconnect. I'm not saying that it happens to me often: I'm saying that it's almost unbearably annoying when it does happen because the punishment is completely absurdly unnecessarily harsh.
Please stop claiming that intentional leavers are a minority when you have no proof to back it up. I know the reconnect button can be abused, but the devs have been "working on it" for years, and it will solve one of the most frustrating aspects of the game, while also allowing the devs to actually punish leavers.
Colorbolt wrote:Its not punished if you genuinely disconnected like are you 14 or something have some basic common sense thanks. If you could suggest ways in which I can avoid having the server kick me out then id like to hear em.
Joacgroso wrote:Colorbolt wrote:Obviously there will be a small number of people who leave every once in a while but that makes up for the minority of leaving cases and its just not worth it to implement such a harsh punishment for disconnecting.
And as for the reconnect button, I don't believe we should make any really complex suggestions like reconnection that would take really long to actually code and make it not easy to abuse. The devs probably don't want to put that much effort into the game and my suggestion is way easier to implement than the reconnect button. It doesn't take much thought or effort coding.
Also, I almost never disconnect, but my problem is that the game makes it a massive headache every time you disconnect. It's actually like one of the most annoying things about ranked because of how ridiculously harsh the punishment is for your occasional disconnect. I'm not saying that it happens to me often: I'm saying that it's almost unbearably annoying when it does happen because the punishment is completely absurdly unnecessarily harsh.
Please stop claiming that intentional leavers are a minority when you have no proof to back it up. I know the reconnect button can be abused, but the devs have been "working on it" for years, and it will solve one of the most frustrating aspects of the game, while also allowing the devs to actually punish leavers.
Colorbolt wrote:It's dumb to assume that the majority of leavers are intentional because it's so obvious that's not the case just by using common sense
Colorbolt wrote:It's dumb to assume that the majority of leavers are intentional because it's so obvious that's not the case just by using common sense, which apparently is something that a lot of people here lack. If people leave intentionally, they can be punished by being suspended if they say they're leaving. I'm not even saying that people shouldn't be punished at all for leaving, I'm saying that it should just be a regular loss instead of -30. Which makes sense to deter people from leaving on its own. -30 is just completely unnecessary and a ridiculous penalty for something that isn't even your fault half the time.
Colorbolt wrote:Also, I wouldn't count on the devs to implement a reconnect button in the next, say, 5 years. They might not even implement it at all, if they completely lose interest in updating this game, which has already started to happen.
EqsyLootz wrote:One issue I have with a reconnect button is it could be easily abused. A Player leaves the game to prevent suspicion or on stand. The town might inno them then they can return to the game. So overall it could easily be abused in general.
Superalex11 wrote:Also, just for some context and because I was curious, over the past 7 months there have been 800 closed leaving reports for ranked games. 600 of them are innocent, and 200 guilty, giving us a ratio of 3:1. Again, this is current system though, and the focus should be on what would happen under these changes. The point here, though, is that you're already starting from a misjudged position, Colorbolt. If 1 in 4 leavers are already doing so intentionally to a point so explicit the current trial system - in all its failures and weaknesses - punishes them, how many do you think are doing so intentionally but not saying anything (so as to not get punished)? And do you really think there would not be significant worsening?
Joacgroso wrote:I feel like I went from Light Yagami to Keiichi Maebara.
Joacgroso wrote:Is it even possible to report people for leaving? I thought only jurors could do that.
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