No NK is just not fun, 4 RTs is chaotic

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No NK is just not fun, 4 RTs is chaotic

Postby Imnevereverlosing » Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:39 pm

I feel no NK takes away a lot of variety from the game. It was too extreme a measure to take. NKs can team up with NEs, removing them - an entire role class that was crucial to the game and its fun - because they were difficult is not the way to improve NK's chances!

4 RTs is also completely chaotic and hard to keep track off. Not to mention you could have 5 TS in a game - not good.

And mandatory ambusher in place of mafioso makes GF possibly too weak to jail/rb. I also feel the ambusher kills are not as much fun.

Not impressed with the role-changes in Ranked. Pls restore NK at least!
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Re: No NK is just not fun, 4 RTs is chaotic

Postby Soulshade55r » Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:47 pm

Imnevereverlosing wrote:I feel no NK takes away a lot of variety from the game. It was too extreme a measure to take. NKs can team up with NEs, removing them - an entire role class that was crucial to the game and its fun - because they were difficult is not the way to improve NK's chances!

4 RTs is also completely chaotic and hard to keep track off. Not to mention you could have 5 TS in a game - not good.

And mandatory ambusher in place of mafioso makes GF possibly too weak to jail/rb. I also feel the ambusher kills are not as much fun.

Not impressed with the role-changes in Ranked. Pls restore NK at least!


I will say that mafia certainly isn't in a good position and would need a extra member or ne because 10 town is bad and also no mafioso screws over GF a lot

But:
1. Ranked should be about Skill and actually based off two opposing forces instead of a chaotic Nk a lot of the time deciding the game.

2. Variety isn't what ranked is about imo, otherwise we'd still have neutral benign.

3. I'm fine with the 4 RTs as it gives very good claim space, a solution would be to nerf roles like transporter, other Ts roles are balanced enough right now.

4. The ranked role list will likely be updated based on feedback so maybe we might get a extra mafia instead of RT or another NE don't freak out for now at least
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Re: No NK is just not fun, 4 RTs is chaotic

Postby moryildizlar » Sun Nov 08, 2020 5:34 am

Im not looking for fun but 4RT is not fair match. Many mafias leavaes immedialty couse many people doesnt want to play with mafia... Many times i play ranked and ranked practise after this update im sorry but in 50 match i just see 2 mafia wins. That's not looking as fair.. Lets calculate little bit

10 Townies, Total 15 Players. Townie pick chance %66.6666666667.
4RT Townies chance without Unique roles: %44.4444444444
4RT TI Chance: %44.4444444444
4RT TS Chance:%22.2222222222
4RT TP Chance: %22.2222222222

Town aldreay has 2x TI's and 2 more %44 chance to play as TI? Mafia doenst have that killing power. New patch = unbalanced
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Re: No NK is just not fun, 4 RTs is chaotic

Postby Soulshade55r » Sun Nov 08, 2020 7:16 am

moryildizlar wrote:Im not looking for fun but 4RT is not fair match. Many mafias leavaes immedialty couse many people doesnt want to play with mafia... Many times i play ranked and ranked practise after this update im sorry but in 50 match i just see 2 mafia wins. That's not looking as fair.. Lets calculate little bit

10 Townies, Total 15 Players. Townie pick chance %66.6666666667.
4RT Townies chance without Unique roles: %44.4444444444
4RT TI Chance: %44.4444444444
4RT TS Chance:%22.2222222222
4RT TP Chance: %22.2222222222

Town aldreay has 2x TI's and 2 more %44 chance to play as TI? Mafia doenst have that killing power. New patch = unbalanced


Pretty easy on how to make buffs to mafia
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Re: No NK is just not fun, 4 RTs is chaotic

Postby Emily372 » Mon Apr 19, 2021 10:49 am

I preferred the Legacy List.
Serial Killer has killed the TT Jailor... and now the Town has congratulated that serial killer for no reason.
That TT Jailor has a will covered in blood, making it unreadable...
Since there is no medium, the town lost to the SK.
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Re: No NK is just not fun, 4 RTs is chaotic

Postby syjfwbaobfwl » Mon Apr 19, 2021 1:01 pm

Emily372 wrote:I preferred the Legacy List.


1: dont necropost

2: ah yes, the legacy list where you could find vampires
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Re: No NK is just not fun, 4 RTs is chaotic

Postby Descender » Mon Apr 19, 2021 2:08 pm

syjfwbaobfwl wrote:
Emily372 wrote:I preferred the Legacy List.


1: dont necropost

2: ah yes, the legacy list where you could find vampires

it isnt tos without rng garbage though
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