Ranked is basically unplayable with the "Saint" players.

[MissAlanius]

Before I start, I want to point out that I completely understand that the players in question and their groupies are probably going to meme it up here.

It's true though. In master-ELO ranked, anytime two or more of the "Saint" players joins, the game is almost unplayable. It becomes nothing more than a circlejerk, or maybe more accurately, a human centipede ouroboros. They bypass the spamming guidelines by saying everything in caps and picking up where another left off so the screen becomes nothing but

"SUBSCRIBE TO [WHOEVER] ON YOUTUBE, COPY AND PASTE THIS RIGHT NOW"

"I'M JAILOR TP/LO ON ME CLAIM IMMEDIATELY OR DIE" (person is not jailor and will refuse to claim later)

"_____ IS IMMUNE TO SEANCE GET THEM UP RIGHT NOW" etc etc etc in such a way that no one else can have their info seen amongst the caps lock hell. It doesn't matter if someone is evil or not, or if another evil was found. One of them decides someone needs to die, the others start squawking to fill that echo chamber, and it doesn't matter what proof that person has that they're innocent, they're going to die because Saint Douchebag said so.

The rest of it devolves into ass kissers failing to play the actual game to discuss "why no 1 lyk saints lol," other players immediately giving up because everyone knows Saint game = 2+ jackasses whose parents didn't hug them enough doing everything they can to make sure the spotlight is on them while just barely staying within the rules so they don't get banned. And everyone else who wanted to play the game can just go fuck themselves I guess.

It would be really nice if we could blacklist accounts or something so you don't have to join a game with them. Like. Give us a limited number of blacklist slots, Even if it makes you wait for multiple queues. Or even if it says, "This account is in this queue, you wanna pass or nah?" because it's aggravating as hell.

[cob709]

You can block the players by saying
"/ignore (player number/IGN)"

[LevinSnakesRise]

Before I start, I want to point out that I completely understand that the players in question and their groupies are probably going to meme it up here.

It's true though. In master-ELO ranked, anytime two or more of the "Saint" players joins, the game is almost unplayable. It becomes nothing more than a circlejerk, or maybe more accurately, a human centipede ouroboros. They bypass the spamming guidelines by saying everything in caps and picking up where another left off so the screen becomes nothing but

"SUBSCRIBE TO [WHOEVER] ON YOUTUBE, COPY AND PASTE THIS RIGHT NOW"

"I'M JAILOR TP/LO ON ME CLAIM IMMEDIATELY OR DIE" (person is not jailor and will refuse to claim later)

"_____ IS IMMUNE TO SEANCE GET THEM UP RIGHT NOW" etc etc etc in such a way that no one else can have their info seen amongst the caps lock hell. It doesn't matter if someone is evil or not, or if another evil was found. One of them decides someone needs to die, the others start squawking to fill that echo chamber, and it doesn't matter what proof that person has that they're innocent, they're going to die because Saint Douchebag said so.

The rest of it devolves into ass kissers failing to play the actual game to discuss "why no 1 lyk saints lol," other players immediately giving up because everyone knows Saint game = 2+ jackasses whose parents didn't hug them enough doing everything they can to make sure the spotlight is on them while just barely staying within the rules so they don't get banned. And everyone else who wanted to play the game can just go fuck themselves I guess.

It would be really nice if we could blacklist accounts or something so you don't have to join a game with them. Like. Give us a limited number of blacklist slots, Even if it makes you wait for multiple queues. Or even if it says, "This account is in this queue, you wanna pass or nah?" because it's aggravating as hell.

We actually recently punished a group of them for group spamming. If you see this still occurring, be sure to report them for spamming, even if an individual doesn't meet the spamming guidelines, group spam is also not tolerated.

[OreCreeper]

Before I start, I want to point out that I completely understand that the players in question and their groupies are probably going to meme it up here.

It's true though. In master-ELO ranked, anytime two or more of the "Saint" players joins, the game is almost unplayable. It becomes nothing more than a circlejerk, or maybe more accurately, a human centipede ouroboros. They bypass the spamming guidelines by saying everything in caps and picking up where another left off so the screen becomes nothing but

"SUBSCRIBE TO [WHOEVER] ON YOUTUBE, COPY AND PASTE THIS RIGHT NOW"

"I'M JAILOR TP/LO ON ME CLAIM IMMEDIATELY OR DIE" (person is not jailor and will refuse to claim later)

"_____ IS IMMUNE TO SEANCE GET THEM UP RIGHT NOW" etc etc etc in such a way that no one else can have their info seen amongst the caps lock hell. It doesn't matter if someone is evil or not, or if another evil was found. One of them decides someone needs to die, the others start squawking to fill that echo chamber, and it doesn't matter what proof that person has that they're innocent, they're going to die because Saint Douchebag said so.

The rest of it devolves into ass kissers failing to play the actual game to discuss "why no 1 lyk saints lol," other players immediately giving up because everyone knows Saint game = 2+ jackasses whose parents didn't hug them enough doing everything they can to make sure the spotlight is on them while just barely staying within the rules so they don't get banned. And everyone else who wanted to play the game can just go fuck themselves I guess.

It would be really nice if we could blacklist accounts or something so you don't have to join a game with them. Like. Give us a limited number of blacklist slots, Even if it makes you wait for multiple queues. Or even if it says, "This account is in this queue, you wanna pass or nah?" because it's aggravating as hell.

We actually recently punished a group of them for group spamming. If you see this still occurring, be sure to report them for spamming, even if an individual doesn't meet the spamming guidelines, group spam is also not tolerated.

What would be considered "group spam"?

[Ezradekezra]

What would be considered "group spam"?

I think it's when a group of people start spamming. A single person might only send a message or two, making it not spam if you look at it individually, but if you see the entire group, it's evidently spam. Am I right in this explanation?

[Flavorable]

What would be considered "group spam"?

I think it's when a group of people start spamming. A single person might only send a message or two, making it not spam if you look at it individually, but if you see the entire group, it's evidently spam. Am I right in this explanation?

Yes, you are.

[OreCreeper]

What would be considered "group spam"?

I think it's when a group of people start spamming. A single person might only send a message or two, making it not spam if you look at it individually, but if you see the entire group, it's evidently spam. Am I right in this explanation?

Yes, you are.

Wait so that means if a player says "lol" once and a bunch of trolls follow and start spamming "lol", the first player would be punished for groupspam?

[Ezradekezra]

Wait so that means if a player says "lol" once and a bunch of trolls follow and start spamming "lol", the first player would be punished for groupspam?

They might be, but then the first player could probably appeal the punishment, especially if they have no other guilty reports.

[LevinSnakesRise]

It's more so like this;

Player A: LOL
Player A: LOL
Player A: LOL
Player B: LOL
Player B: LOL
Player B: LOL
Player C: LOL
Player C: LOL
Player C: LOL

Basically trying to skirt around the spamming rules as an individual as a group, or just flat-out spamming as a group in general. In this case, all players would be punished, just like the SAINTS were.

[OreCreeper]

Wait so that means if a player says "lol" once and a bunch of trolls follow and start spamming "lol", the first player would be punished for groupspam?

They might be, but then the first player could probably appeal the punishment, especially if they have no other guilty reports.

All other reports get closed once one gets guiltied. Even if the report is appealed, all reports will remain closed.

It's more so like this;

Player A: LOL
Player A: LOL
Player A: LOL
Player B: LOL
Player B: LOL
Player B: LOL
Player C: LOL
Player C: LOL
Player C: LOL

Basically trying to skirt around the spamming rules as an individual as a group, or just flat-out spamming as a group in general. In this case, all players would be punished, just like the SAINTS were.

I mean something like this:

Player A: LOL
Player B: LOL
Player B: LOL
Player C: LOL
Player C: LOL
Player D: LOL

in this case player A only said "LOL" once, and arguably didn't mean to participate in the groupspam (considering they said it first, and never said it afterwards). In this case, would Player A be punished?

[LevinSnakesRise]

Wait so that means if a player says "lol" once and a bunch of trolls follow and start spamming "lol", the first player would be punished for groupspam?

They might be, but then the first player could probably appeal the punishment, especially if they have no other guilty reports.

All other reports get closed once one gets guiltied. Even if the report is appealed, all reports will remain closed.

It's more so like this;

Player A: LOL
Player A: LOL
Player A: LOL
Player B: LOL
Player B: LOL
Player B: LOL
Player C: LOL
Player C: LOL
Player C: LOL

Basically trying to skirt around the spamming rules as an individual as a group, or just flat-out spamming as a group in general. In this case, all players would be punished, just like the SAINTS were.

I mean something like this:

Player A: LOL
Player B: LOL
Player B: LOL
Player C: LOL
Player C: LOL
Player D: LOL

in this case player A only said "LOL" once, and arguably didn't mean to participate in the groupspam (considering they said it first, and never said it afterwards). In this case, would Player A be punished?

Not unless we could somehow connect them to the others. Chances are 99% a hard-no.

[Robbytherobot]

They have a discord and are just using alts to get back into ranked so the admins need to crack down more. And sorry if this is bad for sending a 'link' but if you want to spy on them https://discord.gg/G9RR42 XD

[LevinSnakesRise]

They have a discord and are just using alts to get back into ranked so the admins need to crack down more. And sorry if this is bad for sending a 'link' but if you want to spy on them https://discord.gg/G9RR42 XD

Can't crack down until we find those alts.

Which shouldn't be hard if you guys report them.

[CrimsonKatana]

Group spam should be where only the person who says it's 5+ should be suspended and the only one who should have been punished for it in that game is Clam and Cliff wasn't even a part of the group spamming you guys are just disgraceful and idiotic and seem to be proud of it

[Robbytherobot]

DO YOU REALLY WANT TO GO THERE SAYING THESE SAINT PLAYERS ARE NOT BREAKING THE RULES ON PURPOSE, I HAVE EVIDENCE AGAINST SAINT CLAM. https://imgur.com/Z7KgHO0

DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THEY ARE COLLABING TO BE ANNOYING. https://imgur.com/a2omfWL


"I want to get as many reports as possible" - Saint Clam



IM ALSO 95% SURE THIS IS YOU https://imgur.com/zeFnwBt SO SHUT UP YOU MAKE THE GAME WORSE YOU AND YOUR FRIENDS
https://discord.gg/erZVFGg

[Robbytherobot]

IF YOU REALLY WANT MORE EVIDENCE OF A GROUP COLLAB THEN IM SURE I CAN FIND IT....

[Yemac]

Just had a game with the new Saints again. Deity, Braindamaged and Shrek. Shrek literally fake-claimed Sheriff to reghunt someone and then Shrek ended up being Escort... This is not "strategy" It's just day 1 spamming and gamethrowing. I'm getting so tired of this.

[Robbytherobot]

Can they not IP ban them?

[Joacgroso]

IP bans aren't that effective. They can just change their IPs, I think.

[Descender]

IP bans aren't that effective. They can just change their IPs, I think.

also theres that one time a school or smth got their entire campus blocked

[LevinSnakesRise]

If you guys report them, we will handle them as the jurors of the Trial System sift through them and forward them to us. It may not be immediate, but we will definitely handle them.

[Robbytherobot]

Unfortunately this will not work they have been creating alts and playing normally until they get into the higher level of ranked. And ffs BAN CrimsonKatana, the one with the ANIME pfp that posted in this very chat. https://imgur.com/tJA4kDJ

They know how the system works and are abusing it not to get caught.

[Robbytherobot]

Im 90000000% sure its this person memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&un=CrimsonKatana

[Brilliand]

Unfortunately this will not work they have been creating alts and playing normally until they get into the higher level of ranked. And ffs BAN CrimsonKatana, the one with the ANIME pfp that posted in this very chat. https://imgur.com/tJA4kDJ

They know how the system works and are abusing it not to get caught.

If they're spending most of their time playing the game properly, then I don't see the problem.

There's no reason to ban them before they switch over to breaking the rules.

[Joacgroso]

So admitting to break the rules doesn't count as evidence if it's done outside of the game?