What the hell did they do to the Necro?

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What the hell did they do to the Necro?

Postby IDontCareee » Tue Sep 08, 2020 4:08 pm

Why in the hell can't you use TP roles on yourself? What kind of drugs was the designer on what he told the programmer to implement this? It was already a hard enough role-- esp when you're a solo Necro, but now there's an added handicap with ZERO logical reason.

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Re: What the hell did they do to the Necro?

Postby Brilliand » Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:03 pm

I'm pretty sure this is a bug.
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Re: What the hell did they do to the Necro?

Postby cob709 » Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:05 pm

This definitely sounds like a bug, you can make a post about it in the Bug Reports subforum.
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Re: What the hell did they do to the Necro?

Postby Ezradekezra » Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:06 pm

Brilliand wrote:I'm pretty sure this is a bug.

I believe one of the developers stated at one point that this was actually by design.

The game isn't balanced around All Any, and the Coven is powerful enough to warrant being unable to use TPs on yourself in other modes.
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Re: What the hell did they do to the Necro?

Postby Brilliand » Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:11 pm

Ezradekezra wrote:The game isn't balanced around All Any, and the Coven is powerful enough to warrant being unable to use TPs on yourself in other modes.


What "other modes" are you even talking about? Coven Ranked doesn't get played. The only modes Coven could reasonably be balanced for are CAA and VIP.
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Re: What the hell did they do to the Necro?

Postby Ezradekezra » Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:29 pm

Brilliand wrote:
Ezradekezra wrote:The game isn't balanced around All Any, and the Coven is powerful enough to warrant being unable to use TPs on yourself in other modes.

What "other modes" are you even talking about? Coven Ranked doesn't get played. The only modes Coven could reasonably be balanced for are CAA and VIP.

I was thinking along the lines of Coven TT. It's about as close as it's going to get to a regular ranked list that people will play. In Coven TT and VIP, a Necromancer can't be solo, so the ability to defend itself is less of an issue for the role.
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Re: What the hell did they do to the Necro?

Postby TheFluffyWaffleV2 » Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:33 pm

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Re: What the hell did they do to the Necro?

Postby Brilliand » Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:36 pm

TheFluffyWaffleV2 wrote:cough


So it's "by design" in that they thought it already was that way, and didn't think they were changing anything.

Is it true that Necromancer has always worked this way? (I have only vaguely remembered hearsay to go by.)
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Re: What the hell did they do to the Necro?

Postby Ezradekezra » Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:43 pm

TheFluffyWaffleV2 wrote:cough

Yeah, that's the thread I was referencing when I said it was by design.
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Re: What the hell did they do to the Necro?

Postby Joacgroso » Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:01 pm

Brilliand wrote:
Ezradekezra wrote:What "other modes" are you even talking about? Coven Ranked doesn't get played. The only modes Coven could reasonably be balanced for are CAA and VIP.

Just because a gamemode isn't popular it doesn't mean devs should give up on it. Making a bad balance change (I'm not saying the necro thing is bad or good, I don't play coven) is a step in the wrong direction.
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Re: What the hell did they do to the Necro?

Postby Flavorable » Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:48 am

Brilliand wrote:
TheFluffyWaffleV2 wrote:cough


So it's "by design" in that they thought it already was that way, and didn't think they were changing anything.

Is it true that Necromancer has always worked this way? (I have only vaguely remembered hearsay to go by.)


No, necro didn't use to be like this. I think they thought it was a bug he could use TPs on himself to begin with, but in turn they, in my opinion, fucked up and severely nerves the Necro.
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Re: What the hell did they do to the Necro?

Postby kyuss420 » Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:24 am

Yup, good luck protecting yourself from the vig in VIP, to give your faction 1 extra night in the game. Town can now lynch the last coven the following day, instead of lynching you.....or sending the crus to yourself to kill that pesky tracker/sheriff that is going to out you the next day....

Huge nerf to coven, in a mode that is already (heavily town sided) a race between who can die faster - towns TPs or the coven?.....
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