James2 wrote:Flavorable wrote:We always try our best to give priority to phobic cases, not because of "minorities", but solely because we want this community to be accepting, non-discriminatory and safe.
Obviously, BMG's staff cares very deeply about the feelings of minorities and people with weird sexual habits. The OP knows this, as does everyone else who's interacted with BMG in any capacity. That's why she's using false accusations of lack-of-concern as a way of eliciting sympathy from you, because she knows that you actually do care and will be deeply bothered by the thought of being seen as uncaring. If she actually believed what she were saying about BMG not caring about her feelings, she'd restrict herself to complaining about the company on Twitter or Reddit or whatever, as posting here would be a waste of time.
EqsyLootz wrote:I don't believe James purposefully misgendered you rather it was an accident.
If you witness Transphobia in game be sure to report as that will lead to instant banning.
Usually the reddit mod will close the discussion should they believe it's getting out of hand or just generally toxic.
So yeah... unfortunately there's nothing BMG can really do to counter act people on the internet being a-holes.
So either don't let the random opinion of some guy on the internet effect you or maybe take a break from the game.
But yeah, sorry.
Kirize12 wrote:EqsyLootz wrote:I don't believe James purposefully misgendered you rather it was an accident.
If you witness Transphobia in game be sure to report as that will lead to instant banning.
Usually the reddit mod will close the discussion should they believe it's getting out of hand or just generally toxic.
So yeah... unfortunately there's nothing BMG can really do to counter act people on the internet being a-holes.
So either don't let the random opinion of some guy on the internet effect you or maybe take a break from the game.
But yeah, sorry.
As someone who has known James since 2016 - believe me, it was intentional. He has a long history of pissing off LGBTQ+ people for fun.
Guarantee you the next words from him are either "But I get triggered by nominalism" or "If gender can be fluid, surely pronouns can be. Just imagine the S"
Kirize12 wrote:EqsyLootz wrote:I don't believe James purposefully misgendered you rather it was an accident.
If you witness Transphobia in game be sure to report as that will lead to instant banning.
Usually the reddit mod will close the discussion should they believe it's getting out of hand or just generally toxic.
So yeah... unfortunately there's nothing BMG can really do to counter act people on the internet being a-holes.
So either don't let the random opinion of some guy on the internet effect you or maybe take a break from the game.
But yeah, sorry.
As someone who has known James since 2016 - believe me, it was intentional. He has a long history of pissing off LGBTQ+ people for fun.
Guarantee you the next words from him are either "But I get triggered by nominalism" or "If gender can be fluid, surely pronouns can be. Just imagine the S"
Dixonova wrote:Let me make sure I have the full story really quick.
1. The community is unsafe and toxic and bringing it up anywhere but here gets it shut down.
2. The staff/volunteers/etc. have been letting someone spit vitriol about homosexuality being a mental illness while simultaneously saying they're keeping us safe and doing their best.
3. Basically, the staff are stretched too thin and can't properly balance the time a community like this needs... with their real lives.
I don't know what to say. I think it's time I tried to get myself banned so I can leave for good.
EqsyLootz wrote:Dixonova wrote:Let me make sure I have the full story really quick.
1. The community is unsafe and toxic and bringing it up anywhere but here gets it shut down.
2. The staff/volunteers/etc. have been letting someone spit vitriol about homosexuality being a mental illness while simultaneously saying they're keeping us safe and doing their best.
3. Basically, the staff are stretched too thin and can't properly balance the time a community like this needs... with their real lives.
I don't know what to say. I think it's time I tried to get myself banned so I can leave for good.
1. You didn't really show what caused it to get shutdown.
2. To say they let someone do this is odd given you can't expect a team of 3 GMODS and 4 Judges to handle thousands of people playing this game.
3. Staff have real lives and can't babysit a community 24/7
Anyways, good luck with whatever you end up doing.
Dixonova wrote:EqsyLootz wrote:Dixonova wrote:Let me make sure I have the full story really quick.
1. The community is unsafe and toxic and bringing it up anywhere but here gets it shut down.
2. The staff/volunteers/etc. have been letting someone spit vitriol about homosexuality being a mental illness while simultaneously saying they're keeping us safe and doing their best.
3. Basically, the staff are stretched too thin and can't properly balance the time a community like this needs... with their real lives.
I don't know what to say. I think it's time I tried to get myself banned so I can leave for good.
1. You didn't really show what caused it to get shutdown.
2. To say they let someone do this is odd given you can't expect a team of 3 GMODS and 4 Judges to handle thousands of people playing this game.
3. Staff have real lives and can't babysit a community 24/7
Anyways, good luck with whatever you end up doing.
Then they need to shut the damn game down. It's a dangeorous and toxic community. What causes my shit to get shutdown is literally all the points I made in this very thread. I am almost always calm, I am always trying to be rational and not insult people. Yes, they let this person do this. Inaction is as bad as action sometimes. Marginalized people don't deserve to deal with this shit. Okay, they have real lives, as I have said a million times... hire more volunteers to help out.
How am I the only one that sees this as an issue? Holy hell this community...
EqsyLootz wrote:Dixonova wrote:EqsyLootz wrote:Dixonova wrote:Let me make sure I have the full story really quick.
1. The community is unsafe and toxic and bringing it up anywhere but here gets it shut down.
2. The staff/volunteers/etc. have been letting someone spit vitriol about homosexuality being a mental illness while simultaneously saying they're keeping us safe and doing their best.
3. Basically, the staff are stretched too thin and can't properly balance the time a community like this needs... with their real lives.
I don't know what to say. I think it's time I tried to get myself banned so I can leave for good.
1. You didn't really show what caused it to get shutdown.
2. To say they let someone do this is odd given you can't expect a team of 3 GMODS and 4 Judges to handle thousands of people playing this game.
3. Staff have real lives and can't babysit a community 24/7
Anyways, good luck with whatever you end up doing.
Then they need to shut the damn game down. It's a dangeorous and toxic community. What causes my shit to get shutdown is literally all the points I made in this very thread. I am almost always calm, I am always trying to be rational and not insult people. Yes, they let this person do this. Inaction is as bad as action sometimes. Marginalized people don't deserve to deal with this shit. Okay, they have real lives, as I have said a million times... hire more volunteers to help out.
How am I the only one that sees this as an issue? Holy hell this community...
The devs won't shut the game down when they make a profit and many community members enjoy the game.
If you're upset with the game, do as you said and leave the community.
Nobody is forcing you to be here.
I'm sorry but there's always going to be a few bad people in a community, any community... Not just Town of Salem.
That's just the joys of the internet where people can try to piss others off without any real consequences.
Also the staff aren't paid, so it's not hiring and only extremely trusted people who are carefully hand selected can be staff. As of right now, there are volunteers (jurors) who vote inside the trial system. Anyone can be a juror if they have 151+ games played and aren't banned. They vote if a player deserves to be banned or not.
Dixonova wrote:EqsyLootz wrote:Dixonova wrote:EqsyLootz wrote:Dixonova wrote:Let me make sure I have the full story really quick.
1. The community is unsafe and toxic and bringing it up anywhere but here gets it shut down.
2. The staff/volunteers/etc. have been letting someone spit vitriol about homosexuality being a mental illness while simultaneously saying they're keeping us safe and doing their best.
3. Basically, the staff are stretched too thin and can't properly balance the time a community like this needs... with their real lives.
I don't know what to say. I think it's time I tried to get myself banned so I can leave for good.
1. You didn't really show what caused it to get shutdown.
2. To say they let someone do this is odd given you can't expect a team of 3 GMODS and 4 Judges to handle thousands of people playing this game.
3. Staff have real lives and can't babysit a community 24/7
Anyways, good luck with whatever you end up doing.
Then they need to shut the damn game down. It's a dangeorous and toxic community. What causes my shit to get shutdown is literally all the points I made in this very thread. I am almost always calm, I am always trying to be rational and not insult people. Yes, they let this person do this. Inaction is as bad as action sometimes. Marginalized people don't deserve to deal with this shit. Okay, they have real lives, as I have said a million times... hire more volunteers to help out.
How am I the only one that sees this as an issue? Holy hell this community...
The devs won't shut the game down when they make a profit and many community members enjoy the game.
If you're upset with the game, do as you said and leave the community.
Nobody is forcing you to be here.
I'm sorry but there's always going to be a few bad people in a community, any community... Not just Town of Salem.
That's just the joys of the internet where people can try to piss others off without any real consequences.
Also the staff aren't paid, so it's not hiring and only extremely trusted people who are carefully hand selected can be staff. As of right now, there are volunteers (jurors) who vote inside the trial system. Anyone can be a juror if they have 151+ games played and aren't banned. They vote if a player deserves to be banned or not.
Look friend. All I am trying to say is that there are serious issues here. And they were proven in this very thread. I love this game, I love the staff for what they do manage to do. I used to moderate online, I know how hard it can be. But if a space isn't safe for anyone, forget the LGBT+ and POC, if a space isn't safe then steps need to be taken to make it safe.
Having IRL is fine. It's valid. I am not invalidating it despite my anger. I'm trying to remain calm. I am hopelessly addicted to this game despite it hurting me, I adore this game and there is no other like it out there. All I want is for it to be safe for everyone, not just people like me. You have to understand where I am coming from. This community is toxic to a horrible level. And I know I will ALWAYS come back to it unless I'm permabanned. I don't want to be banned, I don't want it to come to that. I'm really trying not to attack anyone here and I'm trying to be as calm and polite as I can and yet I can see I'm still coming off as an asshole. And for that I'm genuinely sorry.
James2 wrote:I can guarantee you that no one on staff agrees with me.
Japan isn't nearly as woke as the west, but it's still pretty liberal in these matters, at least in the urban areas. Even if you were from the Middle East or whatever, that still wouldn't make you "marginalized" now that you live in the west.
The forum reports you've made focus (naturally) on the comments being reported, not whatever led up to them. In any case, if people are insulting you for how you identify, it's because you told them. You aren't required to do that. The overwhelming majority of people I've played ToS with never had any idea about my race, sex, politics, religion, etc. The same is true for most people who play the game.
orangeandblack5 wrote:not to imply that James2's posts weren't deleted for good reason, because knowing him and from the snippets that remain in quotes I'm sure the reason was very good
however
This now looks like a bunch of people all on the same side escalating an argument they aren't having to insane levels for no reason
And that's probably not an ideal solution either
Soulshade55r wrote:James2 posts were deleted that's a good thing.
Ignoring the obvious hatefulness of hate speech in general
Why? what's the point of saying things that will provoke a large, group of people in a online game other then to troll and derail the game? Is it so hard to just let people be on a online space where they wanna chill and play a game, it should be against the rules to call people names and harass them. END of
Trans rights being "political" for some reason? I mean we do live in a world where basic human rights have to be debated... I Mean it really shouldn't be political but people tend to politicise it for some reason
I think it's always best to ignore people like that (from personal experience) people like that tend to not even care about your argument, they generally want a form of reaction because they think it's funny, sadly I think most of them want you to blow up on them so they can report you, I've had to step away from games in the past before (mute them then stop playing after the match ends) when people were ruining a game by hatespeech, throwing ect.
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