New Investigator Results!

[TimeToReap]

Fuck man. I can't read that yellow. Its burning my eyes

[TheNinjaOnTheTop]

hey so ya changed stuff? well i changed my font color and im back.
There's a few problems with the current investigator results:

1) The Investigator results can easily get someone lynched.
2) The Investigator results are quite not balanced.

Anyhoo, here is my new idea for Invest results:

Spoiler: Your target demands others. They must be a Sheriff,Vigilante,Executioner,or Godfather.
ohk i get GF, demanding the Mafia, but Exe/Vig and Sheriff? so Exe demands Town to lynch their target and Sheriff and Vig demand what?
~The Godfather has a way to explain immunity and the sheriff (He is mafia!) and vigilante (He was immune!) have pressure from the Exe result.
again GF can claim BG that vested but not on Ranked.
Your target identifies every clue. They must be an Investigator,Consigliere,Witch,or Vampire Hunter.
ohk this is the same so i got nothing to say here.
~The VH can apparently check if someone is a vampire, so it acts like an Investigator. Witch's buff needs to be put in with this result.
also same here.
Your target is skilled at disrupting others. They must be an Escort,Consort,or Transporter.
legit the it says the same thing as it currently does in game.
~This is fine because all of these roles have roleblock immunity.
what? so they disturb others cuz they cant be disturbed? cuz thats what ya saying.
Your target works with secret information. They must be a Spy,Blackmailer,Mayor,or Disguiser.
ohk Mayor/Spy/BM i get cuz Mayor is Mayor and Spy/BM can look at the Mafia and stuff, but Disguiser has secret info on the roles of the Townies? ohk.
~A mayor that has not been revealed will be questioned by others. They will do a Spy-Test of course. The disguiser adds pressure to the mayor revealing. Disguiser does not really matter in these results, because they can disguise as other people and have it come up as something else.
ohk again what? so Mayor being questioned by others means he has secret info? and how does Disguiser add pressure? its hes Spy/BM/Mayor/Dis (Mayor reveals) okh nvmd.
Your target has a strong strategy. They must be a Framer,Survivor,Arsonist,or Jester.
what strong strat? good for Jester. 'im Surv' JESTER WIN. any1 else. haha lol noop.
~Framed people will show up as these results. A framed doused person will also show up as these results according to the new patch idea. If they are targeted by a killing role, they can claim survivor and the town may think that they are jester.
nah town'll kill that guy.
Your target owns a secret weapon. They must be a Bodyguard,Werewolf,Veteran,or Mafioso.
guns and claws...not secret....
~Werewolf has one night to claim that he used a vest (usually if attacked on non-full moons). This is a good result because a Werewolf can maul on full moon nights or just stay in their house and maul anyone who visits them. The Mafioso can also claim Bodyguard or Veteran.
oh yeh its not like the GF can already claim he has a vest. and Mafioso can already claim Vet and ive seen them claim BG as well.
Your target works with dead bodies. They must be a Medium,Janitor,or Retributionist.
ohk i get it needs to stay the same for balance purposes.
~This result still needs to stay because it is the best claim for Janitor. The Janitor can copy off the medium's will if they are dead and say what the dead said. If the dead person is ressurected, the dead person can indicate that they were correct.
already sed why and sh!t.
Your target depletes other people's hopes. They must be a Doctor,Serial Killer,Forger,or Jailor.
again, Doc heals causing Maf to be sad SK kills and Forger replaces will and Jailor jails and kills.
~This result is a better replacement of Doc,SK,Disguiser because of the new disguiser update, it just stands for Doc or Serial Killer.
ohk fine
Your target does not have a human trait. They must be a Lookout,Vampire,or Amnesiac.
offensive, a LO is just a stalker and a Vampire is a HUMAN crpse and Amne cant remember sh!t but fine i like the grouping i guess (its still 1/3 evil tho)
~Instead of Lookout,Forger,Amne, it should be this to balance out everything.
Balance? in Ranked it might as well be LO/Amne.

[TheNinjaOnTheTop]

Fuck man. I can't read that yellow. Its burning my eyes

yeh i just chose the first color i saw, srry.

[dyaomaster]

Still thinking forger/vampire/araonist/jester.

And yes the last flavor text makes absolutely no sense.

[DestructionII]

hey so ya changed stuff? well i changed my font color and im back.
There's a few problems with the current investigator results:

1) The Investigator results can easily get someone lynched.
2) The Investigator results are quite not balanced.

Anyhoo, here is my new idea for Invest results:

Spoiler: Your target demands others. They must be a Sheriff,Vigilante,Executioner,or Godfather.
ohk i get GF, demanding the Mafia, but Exe/Vig and Sheriff? so Exe demands Town to lynch their target and Sheriff and Vig demand what?
~The Godfather has a way to explain immunity and the sheriff (He is mafia!) and vigilante (He was immune!) have pressure from the Exe result.
again GF can claim BG that vested but not on Ranked.
Your target identifies every clue. They must be an Investigator,Consigliere,Witch,or Vampire Hunter.
ohk this is the same so i got nothing to say here.
~The VH can apparently check if someone is a vampire, so it acts like an Investigator. Witch's buff needs to be put in with this result.
also same here.
Your target is skilled at disrupting others. They must be an Escort,Consort,or Transporter.
legit the it says the same thing as it currently does in game.
~This is fine because all of these roles have roleblock immunity.
what? so they disturb others cuz they cant be disturbed? cuz thats what ya saying.
Your target works with secret information. They must be a Spy,Blackmailer,Mayor,or Disguiser.
ohk Mayor/Spy/BM i get cuz Mayor is Mayor and Spy/BM can look at the Mafia and stuff, but Disguiser has secret info on the roles of the Townies? ohk.
~A mayor that has not been revealed will be questioned by others. They will do a Spy-Test of course. The disguiser adds pressure to the mayor revealing. Disguiser does not really matter in these results, because they can disguise as other people and have it come up as something else.
ohk again what? so Mayor being questioned by others means he has secret info? and how does Disguiser add pressure? its hes Spy/BM/Mayor/Dis (Mayor reveals) okh nvmd.
Your target has a strong strategy. They must be a Framer,Survivor,Arsonist,or Jester.
what strong strat? good for Jester. 'im Surv' JESTER WIN. any1 else. haha lol noop.
~Framed people will show up as these results. A framed doused person will also show up as these results according to the new patch idea. If they are targeted by a killing role, they can claim survivor and the town may think that they are jester.
nah town'll kill that guy.
Your target owns a secret weapon. They must be a Bodyguard,Werewolf,Veteran,or Mafioso.
guns and claws...not secret....
~Werewolf has one night to claim that he used a vest (usually if attacked on non-full moons). This is a good result because a Werewolf can maul on full moon nights or just stay in their house and maul anyone who visits them. The Mafioso can also claim Bodyguard or Veteran.
oh yeh its not like the GF can already claim he has a vest. and Mafioso can already claim Vet and ive seen them claim BG as well.
Your target works with dead bodies. They must be a Medium,Janitor,or Retributionist.
ohk i get it needs to stay the same for balance purposes.
~This result still needs to stay because it is the best claim for Janitor. The Janitor can copy off the medium's will if they are dead and say what the dead said. If the dead person is ressurected, the dead person can indicate that they were correct.
already sed why and sh!t.
Your target depletes other people's hopes. They must be a Doctor,Serial Killer,Forger,or Jailor.
again, Doc heals causing Maf to be sad SK kills and Forger replaces will and Jailor jails and kills.
~This result is a better replacement of Doc,SK,Disguiser because of the new disguiser update, it just stands for Doc or Serial Killer.
ohk fine
Your target does not have a human trait. They must be a Lookout,Vampire,or Amnesiac.
offensive, a LO is just a stalker and a Vampire is a HUMAN crpse and Amne cant remember sh!t but fine i like the grouping i guess (its still 1/3 evil tho)
~Instead of Lookout,Forger,Amne, it should be this to balance out everything.
Balance? in Ranked it might as well be LO/Amne.

1. Lookout needs to have pressure. If you think it's "1/3" evil and you think that's bad, you have no idea what you are talking about. I think that is a good result.
2. Lookout does not have a human trait because it has a strong eye. Vampire is not a human if you know what that is and amnesiac does not know who they are.
3. Changed the invest results a little.
4. Focus on the actual role other than the lores.
5. Escort,Consort,Transporter is the original result. So, you can't really argue with that.
6. SK needs to be with doctor to explain their IMMUNITY.
7. Werewolf needs to be with BG to explain their IMMUNITY.
8. Arsonist needs to be with survivor to explain their IMMUNITY.
9. Spy and blackmailer need to be together because they both read whispers.
10. Transporter,Escort,Consort need to be together because they all have roleblock immunity.
11. I don't get why you are so mad at my idea.

[TheNinjaOnTheTop]

hey so ya changed stuff? well i changed my font color and im back.
There's a few problems with the current investigator results:

1) The Investigator results can easily get someone lynched.
2) The Investigator results are quite not balanced.

Anyhoo, here is my new idea for Invest results:

Spoiler: Your target demands others. They must be a Sheriff,Vigilante,Executioner,or Godfather.
ohk i get GF, demanding the Mafia, but Exe/Vig and Sheriff? so Exe demands Town to lynch their target and Sheriff and Vig demand what?
~The Godfather has a way to explain immunity and the sheriff (He is mafia!) and vigilante (He was immune!) have pressure from the Exe result.
again GF can claim BG that vested but not on Ranked.
Your target identifies every clue. They must be an Investigator,Consigliere,Witch,or Vampire Hunter.
ohk this is the same so i got nothing to say here.
~The VH can apparently check if someone is a vampire, so it acts like an Investigator. Witch's buff needs to be put in with this result.
also same here.
Your target is skilled at disrupting others. They must be an Escort,Consort,or Transporter.
legit the it says the same thing as it currently does in game.
~This is fine because all of these roles have roleblock immunity.
what? so they disturb others cuz they cant be disturbed? cuz thats what ya saying.
Your target works with secret information. They must be a Spy,Blackmailer,Mayor,or Disguiser.
ohk Mayor/Spy/BM i get cuz Mayor is Mayor and Spy/BM can look at the Mafia and stuff, but Disguiser has secret info on the roles of the Townies? ohk.
~A mayor that has not been revealed will be questioned by others. They will do a Spy-Test of course. The disguiser adds pressure to the mayor revealing. Disguiser does not really matter in these results, because they can disguise as other people and have it come up as something else.
ohk again what? so Mayor being questioned by others means he has secret info? and how does Disguiser add pressure? its hes Spy/BM/Mayor/Dis (Mayor reveals) okh nvmd.
Your target has a strong strategy. They must be a Framer,Survivor,Arsonist,or Jester.
what strong strat? good for Jester. 'im Surv' JESTER WIN. any1 else. haha lol noop.
~Framed people will show up as these results. A framed doused person will also show up as these results according to the new patch idea. If they are targeted by a killing role, they can claim survivor and the town may think that they are jester.
nah town'll kill that guy.
Your target owns a secret weapon. They must be a Bodyguard,Werewolf,Veteran,or Mafioso.
guns and claws...not secret....
~Werewolf has one night to claim that he used a vest (usually if attacked on non-full moons). This is a good result because a Werewolf can maul on full moon nights or just stay in their house and maul anyone who visits them. The Mafioso can also claim Bodyguard or Veteran.
oh yeh its not like the GF can already claim he has a vest. and Mafioso can already claim Vet and ive seen them claim BG as well.
Your target works with dead bodies. They must be a Medium,Janitor,or Retributionist.
ohk i get it needs to stay the same for balance purposes.
~This result still needs to stay because it is the best claim for Janitor. The Janitor can copy off the medium's will if they are dead and say what the dead said. If the dead person is ressurected, the dead person can indicate that they were correct.
already sed why and sh!t.
Your target depletes other people's hopes. They must be a Doctor,Serial Killer,Forger,or Jailor.
again, Doc heals causing Maf to be sad SK kills and Forger replaces will and Jailor jails and kills.
~This result is a better replacement of Doc,SK,Disguiser because of the new disguiser update, it just stands for Doc or Serial Killer.
ohk fine
Your target does not have a human trait. They must be a Lookout,Vampire,or Amnesiac.
offensive, a LO is just a stalker and a Vampire is a HUMAN crpse and Amne cant remember sh!t but fine i like the grouping i guess (its still 1/3 evil tho)
~Instead of Lookout,Forger,Amne, it should be this to balance out everything.
Balance? in Ranked it might as well be LO/Amne.

1. Lookout needs to have pressure. If you think it's "1/3" evil and you think that's bad, you have no idea what you are talking about. I think that is a good result.
did i say its bad cuz its 1/3 evil? no its already 1/3 evil but i dunno why Vamps have to be there and in Ranked its pretty much LO/Amne.
2. Lookout does not have a human trait because it has a strong eye. Vampire is not a human if you know what that is and amnesiac does not know who they are.
a strong eye can be a human trait. and ohk a Vampire is not human but it originated from a human and Amne is still a human they just dont know who they are.
3. Changed the invest results a little.
ohk.
4. Focus on the actual role other than the lores.
if ya mean the bold text under the results then...no.
5. Escort,Consort,Transporter is the original result. So, you can't really argue with that.
i know its the original result.
6. SK needs to be with doctor to explain their IMMUNITY.
did i say SK doesn't need to be with Doc?
7. Werewolf needs to be with BG to explain their IMMUNITY.
its already with Exe....which already explains immunity.
8. Arsonist needs to be with survivor to explain their IMMUNITY.
already has BG (and i dont like the result either) to explain immunity.
9. Spy and blackmailer need to be together because they both read whispers.
did i say the don't need to be together?
10. Transporter,Escort,Consort need to be together because they all have roleblock immunity.
i know. i was mainly commenting on the lore.
11. I don't get why you are so mad at my idea.
im not.

[BS4125]

Honestly they are actually alright, you've got the basics down. I can't do a thorough analysis but Janitor shouldn't go with Medium so if doesn't have to use up its whole power to claim a role and I suggest moving the Mafioso into a result with more space

[Skulldug13]

There's a few problems with the current investigator results:

1) The Investigator results can easily get someone lynched.
2) The Investigator results are quite not balanced.

Anyhoo, here is my new idea for Invest results:

Spoiler: Your target demands others. They must be a Sheriff,Vigilante,Executioner,or Godfather.

~The Godfather has a way to explain immunity and the sheriff (He is mafia!) and vigilante (He was immune!) have pressure from the Exe result.

Your target identifies every clue. They must be an Investigator,Consigliere,Witch,or Vampire Hunter.

~The VH can apparently check if someone is a vampire, so it acts like an Investigator. Witch's buff needs to be put in with this result.

Your target is skilled at disrupting others. They must be an Escort,Consort,or Transporter.

~This is fine because all of these roles have roleblock immunity.

Your target works with secret information. They must be a Spy,Blackmailer,Mayor,or Disguiser.

~A mayor that has not been revealed will be questioned by others. They will do a Spy-Test of course. The disguiser adds pressure to the mayor revealing. Disguiser does not really matter in these results, because they can disguise as other people and have it come up as something else.

Your target intends to flip the game around. They must be a Framer,Survivor,Arsonist,or Jester.

~Framed people will show up as these results. A framed doused person will also show up as these results according to the new patch idea. If they are targeted by a killing role, they can claim survivor and the town may think that they are jester.

Your target will never go to sleep. They must be a Bodyguard,Werewolf,Veteran,or Mafioso.

~Werewolf has one night to claim that he used a vest (usually if attacked on non-full moons). This is a good result because a Werewolf can maul on full moon nights or just stay in their house and maul anyone who visits them. The Mafioso can also claim Bodyguard or Veteran.

Your target works with dead bodies. They must be a Medium,Janitor,or Retributionist.

~This result still needs to stay because it is the best claim for Janitor. The Janitor can copy off the medium's will if they are dead and say what the dead said. If the dead person is ressurected, the dead person can indicate that they were correct.

Your target depletes other people's hopes. They must be a Doctor,Serial Killer,Forger,or Jailor.

~This result is a better replacement of Doc,SK,Disguiser because of the new disguiser update, it just stands for Doc or Serial Killer.

Your target does not have a human trait. They must be a Lookout,Vampire,or Amnesiac.

~Instead of Lookout,Forger,Amne, it should be this to balance out everything.

Also it is super confusing to new players when their are 4 results. When there are 4 results in kinda nerfs the invest

[joefischerxxx]

These are really good results. Some lore doesn't fit in that well, but other than that they are very good.

Yep: good results, horrible lore. please fix

[dyaomaster]

These are really good results. Some lore doesn't fit in that well, but other than that they are very good.

Yep: good results, horrible lore. please fix

Personally I think most of the lore is fine...

Exceptions: Doctor/Serial Killer/Forger/Jailor
But I cant find any way these are related anyway so whatever.

Lookout/vampire/amne
I still think this lore is completely inaccurate. Lookouts are humans too. So are amnesiacs. The only thing this fits is vampires.

Framer/survivor/arsonist/jester:
First of all yes arsonist fits this. Its mode of killing half the town at once certainly flips the game.
But I disagree with having Survivor in this lore. Survivors can be loyal too. Not all survivors join the mafia at the last minute.

I still think vampire belongs here, since then you would have all the results that can be changed in one category, plus a Jester. Otherwise, if someone is invest/consig/witch/VH n1 and LO/vampire/amne n3, they're confirmed vampire.
(Also I noticed inv/cons/witch/vh consists of 3 convert-immune roles.)

[DestructionII]

Due to recent comments, I changed the lores.

[dyaomaster]

All better

Still advocating for framer/vampire/arsonist/jester though

[EvilPudding]

Hmm... Seems good

[destruction5033]

i like the three results per role results. These are kind of under powered

[stupidphoenix]

i think its a good idea, but the LO claim would be susp af

Currently in Ranked the only way for there to be a Vampire is the Any role.
Amnesiac isn't that susp of a role so I don't see how this is true.

[DestructionII]

i like the three results per role results. These are kind of under powered

Underpowered? Counter the explanations if necessary.

[destruction5033]

Spoiler:

There's a few problems with the current investigator results:

1) The Investigator results can easily get someone lynched. That's not really a bad thing, the sheriff results can easily get somone lynched also, same with lookout results, but i kind of get what you're saying. They can get someone lynched TOO easily and i agree
2) The Investigator results are quite not balanced.

Anyhoo, here is my new idea for Invest results:

[spoiler]Your target can be very demanding. They must be a Sheriff,Vigilante,Executioner,or Godfather.
~The Godfather has a way to explain immunity and the sheriff (He is mafia!) and vigilante (He was immune!) have pressure from the Exe result.
That's too many options. 3 is better as 4 nerfs the invest too much. If TI was supposed to be weaker this is 10/10 but it's not.
Your target identifies clues. They must be an Investigator,Consigliere,Witch,or Vampire HunterThat's too many options. 3 is better as 4 nerfs the invest too much. If TI was supposed to be weaker this is 10/10 but it's not. Yep. Pretty much the same complaint. I'll stop complaining about this though

[b]~The VH can apparently check if someone is a vampire, so it acts like an Investigator. Witch's buff needs to be put in with this result.

Your target is skilled at disrupting others. They must be an Escort,Consort,or Transporter.
This is good
~This is fine because all of these roles have roleblock immunity.

Your target works with secret information. They must be a Spy,Blackmailer,Mayor,or Disguiser.

~A mayor that has not been revealed will be questioned by others. They will do a Spy-Test of course. The disguiser adds pressure to the mayor revealing. Disguiser does not really matter in these results, because they can disguise as other people and have it come up as something else.

Your target can change the thoughts of another person. They must be a Framer,Survivor,Arsonist,or Jester.
This result needs to be less friendly. Framer/arso are evil but they frame others and people don't lynch jesters a lot. Surv/jester don't belong here
~Framed people will show up as these results. A framed doused person will also show up as these results according to the new patch idea. If they are targeted by a killing role, they can claim survivor and the town may think that they are jester.

Your target never shows fatigue. They must be a Bodyguard,Werewolf,Veteran,or Mafioso.

~Werewolf has one night to claim that he used a vest (usually if attacked on non-full moons). This is a good result because a Werewolf can maul on full moon nights or just stay in their house and maul anyone who visits them. The Mafioso can also claim Bodyguard or Veteran.

Your target works with dead bodies. They must be a Medium,Janitor,or Retributionist.
two townies in the same sub alignment makes for a worse result, this one could be much worse though.
~This result still needs to stay because it is the best claim for Janitor. The Janitor can copy off the medium's will if they are dead and say what the dead said. If the dead person is ressurected, the dead person can indicate that they were correct.

Your target can get in other people's way. They must be a Doctor,Serial Killer,Forger,or Jailor.

~This result is a better replacement of Doc,SK,Disguiser because of the new disguiser update, it just stands for Doc or Serial Killer.

Your target prefers to stay in dark areas. They must be a Lookout,Vampire,or Amnesiac.

~Instead of Lookout,Forger,Amne, it should be this to balance out everything.This result is VERY bad. In ranked this is basically lo/amne. And amnes remember town 80% of the time, it also waists a lookout claim

[tiredsucculent]

i totally agree about the imbalance in investigation and I like your invest result ideas. Especially because of "your target is BG, GF, or Arso" and then that person is seriously bg, so theirs no chance for them to win.