Kleptomaniac (Neutral Evil) (1950+ Views!)

[zicafeliped1]

Really like this role, It would be very funny. But I think it should be a day ability like u choose the target at day and steal his things at night, and the investigative thing should be removed, because it is useless after stealing the guy. Like u talk to dead people, do u have any doubt ur target is med?

[KyoDaz]

Really like this role, It would be very funny. But I think it should be a day ability like u choose the target at day and steal his things at night, and the investigative thing should be removed, because it is useless after stealing the guy. Like u talk to dead people, do u have any doubt ur target is med?

I guess talking to people at night as medium would be a bit OP as you know they are med but... eh.

[leoziv]

Cool idea, but i think that it should be a day ability and at night you get a pop-up saying "your target is a <role>" or something like that, and then you do their ability

[KyoDaz]

Cool idea, but i think that it should be a day ability and at night you get a pop-up saying "your target is a <role>" or something like that, and then you do their ability

All right, I will add it to day ability. What do you think now?

[hightreble]

You shouldn't give him the ability to read whispers I think if he choose Spy.

[KyoDaz]

You shouldn't give him the ability to read whispers I think if he choose Spy.

Okay, I will remove it.

[AwezomePozzum9265]

Honestly, this role just seems wayyy to OP. It gives too much power from that person. It's like an OP version of the Amnesiac. I seriously would not suggest this.

[KyoDaz]

Honestly, this role just seems wayyy to OP. It gives too much power from that person. It's like an OP version of the Amnesiac. I seriously would not suggest this.

There are limits on how much times you can steal.

[AwezomePozzum9265]

This gives too much power to this personand is too OP. It take away 2 bullets from the vigilante?? Some things are good about it, but it's too easy to find out people's roles with it.

[KyoDaz]

This gives too much power to this personand is too OP. It take away 2 bullets from the vigilante?? Some things are good about it, but it's too easy to find out people's roles with it.

Have you forgotten town has the highest winrate by far?

[KyoDaz]

This gives too much power to this personand is too OP. It take away 2 bullets from the vigilante?? Some things are good about it, but it's too easy to find out people's roles with it.

P.S It can also severely hurt evil roles. So it could roleblock the Mafioso for 2 nights or take 2 bullets from the vigilante.

[VoldemortInDisguise]

Too complicated! How is anyone going to remember what it does to each role?

[KyoDaz]

Too complicated! How is anyone going to remember what it does to each role?

That is basically saying "How is anyone going to remember what each role does?"

[Skulldug13]

i don't support the hints, also it has a witch goal. Also it basically is a witch. Correction IT IS A BETTER LOOKING BUT SAME MECHANICS WITCH.
/neutral

[TimeToReap]

Theres no investigator on the clues part.
EDIT: nvm, found it

This role is very similar to witch though

[Skulldug13]

The only thing that makes it "Different" is the invest clues witch (puns) are useless since it is a down-grade from a witch. So I've changed my mind
/nosupport

[Smowa]

I like it, but it shouldn't be able to steal from all roles. Also it should only RB the Mafioso/Godfather for one night. I think you should change it so that it literally just steals their role. If you steal from a vigilante and decide to shoot that night, then vig loses a bullet. If you don't shoot that night, vig doesn't lose any bullets. If you steal from a Janitor and clean that night, then Janitor loses a clean. If you don't, Janitor won't lose a clean.

Roles it shouldn't be able to steal from: Godfather, Medium, survivor, retributionist, amnesiac.

Also, when you steal from someone, they get the notification "A Kleptomaniac stole your equipment." and will be unable to perform any actions. But if you chose a role block immune target, they will get the notification "A Kleptomaniac tried to steal your equipment! But you were immune." and they will be able to perform their actions, (but you won't!). The reasoning for this is to confirm the existence of a kleptomaniac (same as witch).
Role Block immune roles:
Escort, Consort, Transporter, Veteran and Witch.

Finally,
If you choose a target that cannot perform night actions, or a role block immune role, you will not be told what your target is at night, since you won't be performing any actions.
If you choose a target you cannot steal from, you will find out their role but you won't be able to perform any of their actions at night.

Hope you find my suggestions helpful and take them into consideration. I absolutely love your role!
/fullsupport

[KyoDaz]

Interesting idea Smowa. I will add it as it will make it more balanced.

[Emberguard]

This really is just a re-worded Witch with /maybe/ a slight buff if it stops Mediums from talking to the dead.

Kleptomaniac, pick a person during the day to control them at night. That's exactly what the Witch does. Only the witch doesn't need to select their target during the day.

Edit: Wait, do you mean use the players ability on their behalf so only the klep uses the ability that night, or copy their ability separately so both them and the target can use the same ability?

Re-Reading over your idea is this what you mean: https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Thief

Or something closer to this?: https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Absorber

I wouldn't mind a role that straight copies other players abilities without controlling them or taking away shots as long as it doesn't stop the target from using their own ability. Otherwise you just have a Witch that visits the player the ability is used on instead of the player it got the ability from. Really don't like the idea of RB'ing them as we already have consort, escort, jailor and a witch in play with the very real possibility of multiple consorts and multiple escorts. Plus unless the coding for it has changed the Arsonist also acts as a RB to the Mafias kill on the night it ignites. We don't need more RB's added to the mix.

In a fully customised forum game this ability could be fine just as you've got it. But in ToS it just wouldn't work with the role list we have if it's going to end up RB'ing its target and taking away shots from it's target. There's just so many RB'rs already and it's so close to just being another name for the witch. Unless of course the developers coded it so you could have only witches or only kleps. Then it would keep the balance more or less the same

[KyoDaz]

Only certain roles are roleblocked/delayed. Most of them are Mafia so the Kleptomaniac has to be cautious about who he steals from.

[KyoDaz]

bump. Changing title to relevant view count.

[Mystoc]

it seems this role was made before witch was changed to know exact roles ,

its a worse witch in everywhere now doesnt get exact results and can only control somone twice

witch can this indefintaily

[Jalandh]

Im confused, why would it get a hint when it gets to use the ability anyway?

[TheBlueFiretruck]

This role is not only very similar to a Witch, it can also be looked at as a buffed Escort/Consort. I agree that more roleblockers are completely unnecessary, and the role was so specific/confusing that I didn't even bother to finish reading everything it does when stealing someone's ability. I don't support it