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Re: Wannabe (Neutral Unknown) - 100+ Views!!

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 2:08 pm
by TheWolfBuddy
giving it full immunity and making it win when all other factions but 1 are rekt just makes town autolynch every surv or amne claim xd

Re: Wannabe (Neutral Unknown) - 100+ Views!!

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 3:25 pm
by SomeCatchyName9
TheWolfBuddy wrote:giving it full immunity and making it win when all other factions but 1 are rekt just makes town autolynch every surv or amne claim xd

Yeh I scrapped that idea :lol:
EvilKingRNiC wrote:I have seen this role and if it wins with vamps since it's Neut UK/ Neut Chaos then I like it


/support

Thanks for the support :)

Sorry but I think making this win with Vamps would defeat the purpose :| but thanks for the comment :)

Re: Wannabe (Neutral Unknown) - 100+ Views!!

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 6:35 pm
by EvilKingRNiC
SomeCatchyName9 wrote:
TheWolfBuddy wrote:giving it full immunity and making it win when all other factions but 1 are rekt just makes town autolynch every surv or amne claim xd

Yeh I scrapped that idea :lol:
EvilKingRNiC wrote:I have seen this role and if it wins with vamps since it's Neut UK/ Neut Chaos then I like it


/support

Thanks for the support :)

Sorry but I think making this win with Vamps would defeat the purpose :| but thanks for the comment :)


Of course. It actaully not winning with vamps might make this role somewhat realistic.

Re: Wannabe (Neutral Unknown) - 100+ Views!!

PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 12:27 am
by SomeCatchyName9
EvilKingRNiC wrote:
SomeCatchyName9 wrote:
EvilKingRNiC wrote:I have seen this role and if it wins with vamps since it's Neut UK/ Neut Chaos then I like it


/support

Thanks for the support :)

Sorry but I think making this win with Vamps would defeat the purpose :| but thanks for the comment :)


Of course. It actaully not winning with vamps might make this role somewhat realistic.


Agreed :)

Re: Wannabe (Neutral Unknown) - 100+ Views!!

PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2016 12:09 am
by SomeCatchyName9
Feedback is welcome

Re: Wannabe (Neutral Unknown) - 100+ Views!!

PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2016 2:29 pm
by SomeCatchyName9
Should I add a new strategy section? Would that help show this role's balancedness?

Re: Wannabe (Neutral Unknown) - 100+ Views!!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2016 6:53 am
by BlazinIce
SomeCatchyName9 wrote:Should I add a new strategy section? Would that help show this role's balancedness?

Yes

Re: Wannabe (Neutral Unknown) - 100+ Views!!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2016 12:13 pm
by SomeCatchyName9
BlazinIce wrote:
SomeCatchyName9 wrote:Should I add a new strategy section? Would that help show this role's balancedness?

Yes

Ok I'll add one.

If anyone has more strategy they can think of about the Wannabe, please do tell me and I may add it in :)
Likewise, ask any questions you have about the role and I can answer it more clearly in the thread so others can understand it better.

Re: Wannabe (Neutral Unknown) - 350+ Views!!

PostPosted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 6:49 pm
by SomeCatchyName9
As always, feedback is greatly appreciated! Especially about the new Strategy section :)

Re: Wannabe (Neutral Unknown) - 350+ Views!!

PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 11:48 am
by SomeCatchyName9
I've sent this to the TG staff, along with my Tyrant role, let's hope it gets accepted :D

Re: Wannabe (Neutral Unknown) - 350+ Views!!

PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 11:58 am
by BPsycho2
Still. Why have something like this that only exists to steal the win and not do anything

Re: Wannabe (Neutral Unknown) - 350+ Views!!

PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 12:48 pm
by SomeCatchyName9
BPsycho2 wrote:Still. Why have something like this that only exists to steal the win and not do anything

But isn't that what all evils do? Blend in with the town, and "steal the win" at the end? This is sort of the same thing (except it takes the Mafia win)

Re: Wannabe (Neutral Unknown) - 350+ Views!!

PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 1:04 pm
by BPsycho2
Well, yes.

But why this

Why not just call it the straggler and have it actually win with the Mafia?

Then if mafia attack a Serial Killer, they might get confused and not report it

Or something.

Re: Wannabe (Neutral Unknown) - 350+ Views!!

PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 1:45 pm
by SomeCatchyName9
BPsycho2 wrote:Well, yes.

But why this

Why not just call it the straggler and have it actually win with the Mafia?

Then if mafia attack a Serial Killer, they might get confused and not report it

Or something.

Although that isn't a bad idea, the main point of this whole thread is this underlying goal:

A must keep B alive. B must kill A.

It opens up a lot of strategy in the discussion part of the game, where Wannabe must support the Mafia without being too obvious, and Mafia must try and get him lynched, even though he is helping them.

Re: Wannabe (Neutral Unknown) - 350+ Views!!

PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 8:05 pm
by Crazyzombie168
Oh, looks like I didn't see the part where Mafia need to kill it, which adds up to this being a cool and neat idea. I have a thing for liking hated roles I think.

Re: Wannabe (Neutral Unknown) - 350+ Views!!

PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 4:14 pm
by SomeCatchyName9
Crazyzombie168 wrote:Oh, looks like I didn't see the part where Mafia need to kill it, which adds up to this being a cool and neat idea. I have a thing for liking hated roles I think.

Thanks :)


But what do you mean liking hated roles? I didn't think this was hated...

Re: Wannabe (Neutral Unknown) - 350+ Views!!

PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 11:35 am
by SomeCatchyName9
Feedback is welcome. Almost 500 views!! XD

Re: Wannabe (Neutral Unknown) - 350+ Views!!

PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 4:14 pm
by SomeCatchyName9
One problem I've realised with this role is that once there is a known Wannabe, it just can't win. Mafia will make sure the Wannabe is lynched before their final kill.

For this reason, I'm thinking of giving the Wannabe a disguiser-like effect, where if a Wannabe dies at night, it is revealed as whatever role it disguised as that night. How does that sound?

Re: Wannabe (Neutral Unknown) - 350+ Views!!

PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2016 11:22 am
by SomeCatchyName9
SomeCatchyName9 wrote:One problem I've realised with this role is that once there is a known Wannabe, it just can't win. Mafia will make sure the Wannabe is lynched before their final kill.

For this reason, I'm thinking of giving the Wannabe a disguiser-like effect, where if a Wannabe dies at night, it is revealed as whatever role it disguised as that night. How does that sound?

Anyone have feedback on this?

Re: Wannabe (Neutral Unknown) - 350+ Views!!

PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 4:03 pm
by DotStar
Sheriff should not get mafia message. It is a mafia REJECT for a reason.

Re: Wannabe (Neutral Unknown) - 350+ Views!!

PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 8:53 am
by SomeCatchyName9
DotStar wrote:Sheriff should not get mafia message. It is a mafia REJECT for a reason.

Hmmm not a bad idea...

Re: Wannabe (Neutral Unknown) - 350+ Views!!

PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 10:07 am
by PhannToM
Lol this is role is crazy. He really is a wanabe in the end he gets lynched by mafia ^_^

Re: Wannabe (Neutral Unknown) - 100+ Views!!

PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 10:10 am
by Parallax7
BlazinIce wrote:Huh neat
It's a made up role category
Neutral Chaos would be better for this, because it doesn't fit into anything else.


Hmm, yeah. I dislike how this relies on the entire Mafia Faction. Obviously you'd insta lose if there were only one Maf.

Re: Wannabe (Neutral Unknown) - 350+ Views!!

PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 11:09 am
by SomeCatchyName9
Joshuabfagan wrote:
BlazinIce wrote:Huh neat
It's a made up role category
Neutral Chaos would be better for this, because it doesn't fit into anything else.


Hmm, yeah. I dislike how this relies on the entire Mafia Faction. Obviously you'd insta lose if there were only one Maf.

The maf would insta lose too, this is not a problem with the Wannabe, it's how All Any works.
PhannToM wrote:Lol this is role is crazy. He really is a wanabe in the end he gets lynched by mafia ^_^

Sorry I don't understand your post :/

Re: Wannabe (Neutral Unknown) - 100+ Views!!

PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 9:10 pm
by GodFocker
WindBlqde wrote:
SomeCatchyName9 wrote:Ok I've got an idea. What if I change the Wannabe's win conditions, so:

Wannabe becomes NB
It just needs to survive until the end of the game, like Survivor, BUT...
When a Wannabe wins, everyone else loses. So people must kill the Wannabe.
I'll give the Wannabe full immunity if I change its win condition.
Of course, it will keep the disguise ability to escape detection.

How does that sound?

NBs win with everyone.


Amnesiacs don't "win" with everyone. (unless they remember surv lol)
They get the win conditions of the role they remembered.

SomeCatchyName9 wrote:1. It can't win with NKs - NEs win with anyone but town


Whoever told you this.... what?
Exe and jester win with town, they harm them yes, but they win with them.
(I didnt forget about witch)