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Should Arcanist be in Testing Grouds(goal is 40)

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Re: Arcanist(Neutral Killing)

Postby Ozyrox » Thu Dec 10, 2015 11:04 pm

lol why me xD

well in my opinion, making the Arcanist immune to the bg would be abit too OP. Like the WW, you should just have it that the doc can't protect them but the bg can. Or maybe you should do it reverse, because the doctor can't heal someone attacked by a ww, vampire (i think) or revealed mayor. Seems abit unfair to the doc.

You can change the lore by saying that the boy asked the transporter before asking the doctor and that the doctor agreed to heal the town member but was jailed, so he couldn't do that. He explains this to the arcanist that the jailor interogated him on his way to his moms house and he was the only one who comforted him in the morning and everyone ignored him. Then when he ran in the woods to practice the arts he practiced attacks to counter the bodyguard and/or transporter for ignoring him but not the doctor.

Thats just a suggestion if you wanna flip it around to bg doesn't kill him but he can't kill healed target. It also makes the doctor more important in the game because the bg just straight up kills the killer while the doc only heals the person
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Re: Arcanist(Neutral Killing)

Postby ChubbyMooshroom9 » Fri Dec 11, 2015 9:09 am

Ozyrox wrote:lol why me xD

well in my opinion, making the Arcanist immune to the bg would be abit too OP. Like the WW, you should just have it that the doc can't protect them but the bg can. Or maybe you should do it reverse, because the doctor can't heal someone attacked by a ww, vampire (i think) or revealed mayor. Seems abit unfair to the doc.

You can change the lore by saying that the boy asked the transporter before asking the doctor and that the doctor agreed to heal the town member but was jailed, so he couldn't do that. He explains this to the arcanist that the jailor interogated him on his way to his moms house and he was the only one who comforted him in the morning and everyone ignored him. Then when he ran in the woods to practice the arts he practiced attacks to counter the bodyguard and/or transporter for ignoring him but not the doctor.

Thats just a suggestion if you wanna flip it around to bg doesn't kill him but he can't kill healed target. It also makes the doctor more important in the game because the bg just straight up kills the killer while the doc only heals the person



So BG imoonity and doc immoonity? I lyk dat.
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Re: Arcanist(Neutral Killing)

Postby tdh99 » Fri Dec 11, 2015 4:13 pm

My last post up above, I don't remember posting that, I might have been really sleeping, either way, I think it should be able to be protected from both Doctor and Bodyguard, but the Bodyguard can't kill it, can only protect, I apologize if I am repeating an already stated idea, I just wanted to share my thoughts on the subject.
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Re: Arcanist(Neutral Killing)

Postby ChubbyMooshroom9 » Fri Dec 11, 2015 6:22 pm

tdh99 wrote:My last post up above, I don't remember posting that, I might have been really sleeping, either way, I think it should be able to be protected from both Doctor and Bodyguard, but the Bodyguard can't kill it, can only protect, I apologize if I am repeating an already stated idea, I just wanted to share my thoughts on the subject.


I was thinking Partial Doctor Immunity and Partial BG immunity. The mass trauma is unblockable, but the basic attack is stopped both ways.
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Re: Arcanist(Neutral Killing)

Postby ChubbyMooshroom9 » Sat Dec 12, 2015 8:16 am

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Re: Arcanist(Neutral Killing)

Postby ChubbyMooshroom9 » Sat Dec 12, 2015 2:51 pm

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Re: Arcanist(Neutral Killing)[Plz Click]

Postby ChubbyMooshroom9 » Sat Dec 12, 2015 5:00 pm

Nobody likes this anymore.....*sniff*
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Re: Arcanist(Neutral Killing)(Plz ClickT_T)

Postby mrbones45 » Sat Dec 12, 2015 5:07 pm

It is a very interesting role
But i am confused?
So does he kill the killers of the victim or just the visitors?
Well any way if it killed the killers then all killing roles would not kill as often giving town a boost
But if it only kills visitors that gives mafia a HUGE BUFF
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Re: Arcanist(Neutral Killing)(Plz ClickT_T)

Postby murat1996 » Sat Dec 12, 2015 5:11 pm

Wait, isn't this somewhat similar to my SW? And I said somewhat, so I need an answer Chubby!

If it isn't, just take me the similarities xD
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Re: Arcanist(Neutral Killing)(Plz ClickT_T)

Postby ChubbyMooshroom9 » Sat Dec 12, 2015 6:03 pm

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mrbones45 wrote:It is a very interesting role
But i am confused?
So does he kill the killers of the victim or just the visitors?
Well any way if it killed the killers then all killing roles would not kill as often giving town a boost
But if it only kills visitors that gives mafia a HUGE BUFF


Both, since killers had to have visited the house. :roll:


Killers don't die, otherwise RIP mafia Night 6. But then how does it fight off mafia? Easy, it has a basic attack(next to living players) that will kill that player. I know I probably just lost your support, but just as clarification.
murat1996 wrote:Wait, isn't this somewhat similar to my SW? And I said somewhat, so I need an answer Chubby!

If it isn't, just take me the similarities xD


I don't know what to answer to that, but it kills all visitors(Player 1 , Player 2 visit Player 5, Player 3 kills) to a dead person, thus killing 1 & 2 but not 3(cuz killer). It also has a standard attack to take out mafia. So I don't know how this is similar but you are the Role Idea God so I'll take your word for it.
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Re: Arcanist(Neutral Killing)(Plz ClickT_T)

Postby ChubbyMooshroom9 » Sat Dec 12, 2015 6:42 pm

Kirzie12 wrote:I don't know what to answer to that, but it kills all visitors(Player 1 , Player 2 visit Player 5, Player 3 kills) to a dead person, thus killing 1 & 2 but not 3(cuz killer). It also has a standard attack to take out mafia. So I don't know how this is similar but you are the Role Idea God so I'll take your word for it.
That would be me. :p


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Re: Arcanist(Neutral Killing)(Plz ClickT_T)

Postby ChubbyMooshroom9 » Sun Dec 13, 2015 12:08 am

Kirize12 wrote:
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Kirzie12 wrote:I don't know what to answer to that, but it kills all visitors(Player 1 , Player 2 visit Player 5, Player 3 kills) to a dead person, thus killing 1 & 2 but not 3(cuz killer). It also has a standard attack to take out mafia. So I don't know how this is similar but you are the Role Idea God so I'll take your word for it.
That would be me. :p


I never knew about the forums when you made Electrician, so I only knew about Shadowalker. But here is the crown, Neco(cat in Japanese).

Well Electrician died for a while, so there's that.
Also it's spelled Neko, with a K.


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Re: Arcanist(Neutral Killing)(Plz ClickT_T)

Postby ChubbyMooshroom9 » Sun Dec 13, 2015 12:33 am

Kirize12 wrote:Suggestion: On regular nights, allow them to attack like an SK. On full moon nights, allow them to target a dead person and force everyone who once visited to commit suicide (can be healed by Doctor and Jailor, but cuts through immunity and BG's). If you killed 2-3 people or more, you can't use a regular attack the next night.


That seems like a good idea. :D I'll put it in the OP tomorrow cuz right now I'm really tired. I wanna see if people like this idea, but I'll probably add it in anyways.
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Re: Arcanist(Neutral Killing)(Plz ClickT_T)

Postby K1llthestory » Sun Dec 13, 2015 12:51 am

Kirize12 wrote:Suggestion: On regular nights, allow them to attack like an SK. On full moon nights, allow them to target themselves and force anyone and everyone who visited a dead person to commit suicide (can be healed by Doctor and Jailor, but cuts through immunity and BG's). If you killed 3 people or more, you can't use a regular attack the next night.

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Re: Arcanist(Neutral Killing)(Plz ClickT_T)

Postby kookeekwisp » Sun Dec 13, 2015 6:17 pm

This role has 4 pages of comments, yet you feel the need to make people read your idea. Lots of people already saw it, and frankly, it's a really bad concept.
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Re: Arcanist(Neutral Killing)(Plz ClickT_T)

Postby ChubbyMooshroom9 » Sun Dec 13, 2015 6:31 pm

kookeekwisp wrote:This role has 4 pages of comments, yet you feel the need to make people read your idea. Lots of people already saw it, and frankly, it's a really bad concept.


And a lot of other people like the concept. Your point?
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Re: Arcanist(Neutral Killing)(Plz ClickT_T)

Postby ChubbyMooshroom9 » Mon Dec 14, 2015 1:59 pm

If any who likes this(only me) wants to submit this to the Testing Grounds can, I give my permission(though I know it will be denied 100%)
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Re: Arcanist(Neutral Killing)(Plz ClickT_T)

Postby Ozyrox » Tue Dec 15, 2015 8:21 am

No I said they should either be bg immune or doc immune, not both lol
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Re: Arcanist(Neutral Killing)(Plz ClickT_T)

Postby ChubbyMooshroom9 » Tue Dec 15, 2015 8:29 am

Ozyrox wrote:No I said they should either be bg immune or doc immune, not both lol


So just full immunity to one and not partial for both?
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Re: Arcanist(Neutral Killing)(Plz ClickT_T)

Postby Ozyrox » Wed Dec 16, 2015 8:32 am

ChubbyMooshroom9 wrote:
Ozyrox wrote:No I said they should either be bg immune or doc immune, not both lol


So just full immunity to one and not partial for both?


Yeah and u should add a reason for this in your lore. Look at my previous post
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Re: Arcanist(Neutral Killing)(Plz ClickT_T)

Postby ChubbyMooshroom9 » Wed Dec 16, 2015 8:34 am

Ozyrox wrote:
ChubbyMooshroom9 wrote:
Ozyrox wrote:No I said they should either be bg immune or doc immune, not both lol


So just full immunity to one and not partial for both?


Yeah and u should add a reason for this in your lore. Look at my previous post


Got it. I can do it tomorrow. :D. I got stupid Odyssey Project Research Flower Hunting stuff.
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Re: Arcanist(Neutral Killing)(Plz ClickT_T)

Postby Ozyrox » Wed Dec 16, 2015 8:37 am

Lol I'm not gonna ask. Also u don't have to listen to me exactly, it's ur role, and I'm just giving u suggestions :) u can choose whether he/she is immune to bg or doc
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Re: Arcanist(Neutral Killing)(Plz ClickT_T)

Postby ChubbyMooshroom9 » Wed Dec 16, 2015 8:46 am

Ozyrox wrote:Lol I'm not gonna ask. Also u don't have to listen to me exactly, it's ur role, and I'm just giving u suggestions :) u can choose whether he/she is immune to bg or doc


Nothing is immune to BG(shadowwalker is but is partial) and it would be a cool-ish concept-ish that I like.
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Re: Arcanist(Neutral Killing)(Plz ClickT_T)

Postby Ozyrox » Thu Dec 17, 2015 8:33 am

Kirize12 wrote:
Kirize12 wrote:Suggestion: On regular nights, allow them to attack like an SK. On full moon nights, allow them to target themselves and force anyone and everyone who visited a dead person to commit suicide (can be healed by Doctor and Jailor, but cuts through immunity and BG's). If you killed 3 people or more, you can't use a regular attack the next night.


You could have edited this in ur other post but nah lol. I don't think we should do that because the Arcanist would basically make the serial killer pointless. I mean this role is already similar to the WW and adding this extra feature would make it more OP
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Re: Arcanist(Neutral Killing)(Plz ClickT_T)

Postby ChubbyMooshroom9 » Thu Dec 17, 2015 8:57 am

Ozyrox wrote:
Kirize12 wrote:
Kirize12 wrote:Suggestion: On regular nights, allow them to attack like an SK. On full moon nights, allow them to target themselves and force anyone and everyone who visited a dead person to commit suicide (can be healed by Doctor and Jailor, but cuts through immunity and BG's). If you killed 3 people or more, you can't use a regular attack the next night.


You could have edited this in ur other post but nah lol. I don't think we should do that because the Arcanist would basically make the serial killer pointless. I mean this role is already similar to the WW and adding this extra feature would make it more OP


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