Arcanist(Neutral Killing)

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Should Arcanist be in Testing Grouds(goal is 40)

I will kill you if this isn't there(YES)
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Decent, but could use edits(leave suggestions below)
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You're the Spawn of Satan for making this(NO)
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Re: A Role Idea

Postby robun123456 » Sun Dec 06, 2015 9:58 pm

The Arcanist may wipe-out the whole entire Mafia like in Night 6, but keep in mind that's a bad strategic move since after that the only threat is Town, so afterwards Town just gets TI and Jailor to jail the Arcanist and the game is over.

As an NK in any game mode the idea is to kill some townies and then start looking for Mafia, so they can't out vote you.

TL;DR Smart Arcanist would let the mafia live for awhile.
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Re: A Role Idea

Postby kookeekwisp » Mon Dec 07, 2015 12:34 am

I'm sorry, but a role specifically targeted towards killers only? This can't be a Neutral killing because it can't kill every role (and what it CAN kill is 1: mostly evil, and 2: about 1/4 the role list.)

/Nosupport (unless it's reworked to be a town member)
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Re: A Role Idea

Postby ChubbyMooshroom9 » Mon Dec 07, 2015 8:39 am

kookeekwisp wrote:I'm sorry, but a role specifically targeted towards killers only? This can't be a Neutral killing because it can't kill every role (and what it CAN kill is 1: mostly evil, and 2: about 1/4 the role list.

/Nosupport (unless it's reworked to be a town member)



I should have made an edit that allows it to either get a mass traumatizing or a single, sole kill to acommadate for not being able to kill scum. I'll double check if it is there.
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Re: A Role Idea

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Re: A Role Idea

Postby ChubbyMooshroom9 » Mon Dec 07, 2015 8:19 pm

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Re: A Role Idea

Postby Ozyrox » Tue Dec 08, 2015 5:38 am

I love this role idea and the lore is crazy! abit graphic lol but awesome. If the Arcanist isn't already a unique role, it should be, because it would be too OP.
Also to everyone who thinks the mafia would die too quickly if the Arcanist is around is what i don't get. Doesn't the Arcanist leave the killer alone and kill all visitors the previous night? I mean you might not end up killing anyone. Also if you get jailed or RBed you should instead do your night action on them. Also you should get the option to visit yourself once and have it either kill anyone who visits you that night (if attacked) or kill everyone who visited you the previous night if you get attacked. Also this isn't OP because the mafia will know who you are cause ur immune and people died when you got attacked.
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Re: A Role Idea

Postby ChubbyMooshroom9 » Tue Dec 08, 2015 3:46 pm

Ozyrox wrote:I love this role idea and the lore is crazy! abit graphic lol but awesome. If the Arcanist isn't already a unique role, it should be, because it would be too OP.
Also to everyone who thinks the mafia would die too quickly if the Arcanist is around is what i don't get. Doesn't the Arcanist leave the killer alone and kill all visitors the previous night? I mean you might not end up killing anyone. Also if you get jailed or RBed you should instead do your night action on them. Also you should get the option to visit yourself once and have it either kill anyone who visits you that night (if attacked) or kill everyone who visited you the previous night if you get attacked. Also this isn't OP because the mafia will know who you are cause ur immune and people died when you got attacked.


It kills all players who have visited them(except the killer). However, your second suggestion is just a WW.


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Re: A Role Idea

Postby Ozyrox » Tue Dec 08, 2015 7:38 pm

ChubbyMooshroom9 wrote:
Ozyrox wrote:I love this role idea and the lore is crazy! abit graphic lol but awesome. If the Arcanist isn't already a unique role, it should be, because it would be too OP.
Also to everyone who thinks the mafia would die too quickly if the Arcanist is around is what i don't get. Doesn't the Arcanist leave the killer alone and kill all visitors the previous night? I mean you might not end up killing anyone. Also if you get jailed or RBed you should instead do your night action on them. Also you should get the option to visit yourself once and have it either kill anyone who visits you that night (if attacked) or kill everyone who visited you the previous night if you get attacked. Also this isn't OP because the mafia will know who you are cause ur immune and people died when you got attacked.


It kills all players who have visited them(except the killer). However, your second suggestion is just a WW.


Also, you can vote TWICE in the poll!(one for liking role the other for testing grounds)


No i just realized the first suggestion is the WW lol. not the 2nd. Or are you talking about the jailed/rbed thing? But this role doesn't attack right? so your not doing what the sk would do by killing them but you are checking them so if they die then the people who visited the previous night die. Or do you mean that it kills all the other players that visit the person that night? Do you only kill other visitors if they get killed?
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Re: A Role Idea

Postby ChubbyMooshroom9 » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:23 pm

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Ozyrox wrote:I love this role idea and the lore is crazy! abit graphic lol but awesome. If the Arcanist isn't already a unique role, it should be, because it would be too OP.
Also to everyone who thinks the mafia would die too quickly if the Arcanist is around is what i don't get. Doesn't the Arcanist leave the killer alone and kill all visitors the previous night? I mean you might not end up killing anyone. Also if you get jailed or RBed you should instead do your night action on them. Also you should get the option to visit yourself once and have it either kill anyone who visits you that night (if attacked) or kill everyone who visited you the previous night if you get attacked. Also this isn't OP because the mafia will know who you are cause ur immune and people died when you got attacked.


It kills all players who have visited them(except the killer). However, your second suggestion is just a WW.


Also, you can vote TWICE in the poll!(one for liking role the other for testing grounds)


No i just realized the first suggestion is the WW lol. not the 2nd. Or are you talking about the jailed/rbed thing? But this role doesn't attack right? so your not doing what the sk would do by killing them but you are checking them so if they die then the people who visited the previous night die. Or do you mean that it kills all the other players that visit the person that night? Do you only kill other visitors if they get killed?



You seem confused on how it kills, but have everything else right. So lets say it is Night 3, and Players 1, 2, 3, and 5 have visited Player 4 on various different nights. Player 6 then kills Player 4. The next full moon, the Arcanist can select Player 4, killing Players 1,2,3, and 5, but not 6. However, the Arcanist can also select another button(next to living players) that will give it the choice to just attack that sole person.
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Re: A Role Idea

Postby ChubbyMooshroom9 » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:32 pm

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Please don't post just to bump. It counts as spam.


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Re: A Role Idea

Postby ChubbyMooshroom9 » Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:32 pm

kookeekwisp wrote:I'm sorry, but a role specifically targeted towards killers only? This can't be a Neutral killing because it can't kill every role (and what it CAN kill is 1: mostly evil, and 2: about 1/4 the role list.)

/Nosupport (unless it's reworked to be a town member)


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Re: A Role Idea

Postby Ozyrox » Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:56 pm

U can use the edit button lol. I get it now. So the longer you take to kill someone, the more people you kill. This is like the arsonist but you don't know who you douse lol. i still love this role xD
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Re: A Role Idea

Postby ChubbyMooshroom9 » Wed Dec 09, 2015 2:49 pm

Ozyrox wrote:U can use the edit button lol. I get it now. So the longer you take to kill someone, the more people you kill. This is like the arsonist but you don't know who you douse lol. i still love this role xD


You can call it that if you want, that's a fairy decent analogy, but thanks for the support. :celebrate:
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Re: A Role Idea

Postby ChubbyMooshroom9 » Wed Dec 09, 2015 6:38 pm

Am I allowed to assume the people who voted "good idea" also want it in the testing grounds? If so, only 32 MORE!!!!
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Re: A Role Idea

Postby Ozyrox » Wed Dec 09, 2015 7:19 pm

i like how theres that 1 hater who hates the role and thinks it deserves hell xD

I wish there were more roles with this kinda creativity lol
(I mean there probably are alot already that i haven't been noticing but still)
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Re: A Role Idea

Postby ChubbyMooshroom9 » Wed Dec 09, 2015 8:13 pm

Ozyrox wrote:i like how theres that 1 hater who hates the role and thinks it deserves hell xD

I wish there were more roles with this kinda creativity lol
(I mean there probably are alot already that i haven't been noticing but still)


Why thank you! I saw that too. I really burst into laughter XD. But yeah, there are a few creative ideas, like Murat's Shadowwalker and Kirizie's Electrician. There are a few more(not many more) and they are all astounding.



Oh yah. I also forgot Necromancer and Skin Shifter.


Knowing some people I've played with, its probably someone named Doc Mario. He got salty because I played WW well and got him lynched.
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Re: A Role Idea

Postby tdh99 » Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:14 pm

I have gone through this string of comments, observations, suggestions and so on. I have made a formulated opinion about this, and I would have to say it is great, I wish The Intern idea got this much hype or was as popular, The concept is obviously still being worked, but I will go cast my vote for this idea, it is like no other I have seen, Congrats, I really hope it gets tested. I'm totally "Fangirling" over here.
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Re: A Role Idea

Postby ChubbyMooshroom9 » Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:17 pm

tdh99 wrote:I have gone through this string of comments, observations, suggestions and so on. I have made a formulated opinion about this, and I would have to say it is great, I wish The Intern idea got this much hype or was as popular, The concept is obviously still being worked, but I will go cast my vote for this idea, it is like no other I have seen, Congrats, I really hope it gets tested. I'm totally "Fangirling" over here.

Well thanks! :D THe problem is with intern roles is that so many have been made, they really don't make a splash. But keep trying to make roles and you'll succeed eventually(if you think this is popular, look at Shadowalker. Most popular fan-made role ever.)
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Re: A Role Idea

Postby tdh99 » Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:21 pm

Thanks I will, and I read that the Intern was made so many times, and man did I get bummed out, thinking, "Wow, I'm real original,"
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Re: A Role Idea

Postby Ozyrox » Thu Dec 10, 2015 3:59 am

Have u guys also seen Exacerbated Scientist role? That was pretty successful in the testing grounds lol
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Re: A Role Idea

Postby ChubbyMooshroom9 » Thu Dec 10, 2015 8:30 am

Ozyrox wrote:Have u guys also seen Exacerbated Scientist role? That was pretty successful in the testing grounds lol


Was it an investigative role?



Anyways, I have a question I would like to ask.

When the Arcanist traumatizes, should it be immune to BG as well? Of course, implementing this will mean the basic attack will be prevented by doctors and BGS(as compared to just BGs now). This is due to a flaw I just though of.

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tdh99 was killed by the Mafia last night. There role was Jailor.
Ozyrox: FUCK! I VISITED THEM N1! BG ON ME SO ARCANIST CAN'T TRAUMATIZE!
Kirizie12: On it Ozy.



SO pretty much that. :/ Reply with saying Yay(for this) or Neigh(no to this). Yes, I'm doing nay like neigh for funsies.
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Re: A Role Idea

Postby ChubbyMooshroom9 » Thu Dec 10, 2015 4:25 pm

I feel like nobody likes this anymore(no different from the entire time)
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Re: ARCANIST(Neutral Killing)

Postby ChubbyMooshroom9 » Thu Dec 10, 2015 5:54 pm

Kirize12 wrote:I like this.

Also, there is no need to yell. Arcanist, not ARCANIST.


I had cap locks on when I did it. I'll change it.
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Re: A Role Idea

Postby tdh99 » Thu Dec 10, 2015 8:15 pm

ChubbyMooshroom9 wrote:
Ozyrox wrote:Have u guys also seen Exacerbated Scientist role? That was pretty successful in the testing grounds lol


Was it an investigative role?



Anyways, I have a question I would like to ask.

When the Arcanist traumatizes, should it be immune to BG as well? Of course, implementing this will mean the basic attack will be prevented by doctors and BGS(as compared to just BGs now). This is due to a flaw I just though of.

Example

tdh99 was killed by the Mafia last night. There role was Jailor.
Ozyrox: FUCK! I VISITED THEM N1! BG ON ME SO ARCANIST CAN'T TRAUMATIZE!
I would have replied sooner, but I was at school, and yes, I think Bodyguard/Doctor should be able to protect endangered targets from Arcanist.
Kirizie12: On it Ozy.



SO pretty much that. :/ Reply with saying Yay(for this) or Neigh(no to this). Yes, I'm doing nay like neigh for funsies.
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Re: A Role Idea

Postby ChubbyMooshroom9 » Thu Dec 10, 2015 8:36 pm

tdh99 wrote:
ChubbyMooshroom9 wrote:
Ozyrox wrote:Have u guys also seen Exacerbated Scientist role? That was pretty successful in the testing grounds lol


Was it an investigative role?



Anyways, I have a question I would like to ask.

When the Arcanist traumatizes, should it be immune to BG as well? Of course, implementing this will mean the basic attack will be prevented by doctors and BGS(as compared to just BGs now). This is due to a flaw I just though of.

Example

tdh99 was killed by the Mafia last night. There role was Jailor.
Ozyrox: FUCK! I VISITED THEM N1! BG ON ME SO ARCANIST CAN'T TRAUMATIZE!
I would have replied sooner, but I was at school, and yes, I think Bodyguard/Doctor should be able to protect endangered targets from Arcanist.
Kirizie12: On it Ozy.



SO pretty much that. :/ Reply with saying Yay(for this) or Neigh(no to this). Yes, I'm doing nay like neigh for funsies.


Are you bumping it or giving an answer?

This thread will die unless people answer the poll or Ozy comes back >.<. :404:
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