Episode XI | Rerolled (TrueGent wins!)

[Mroz4k]

I'll respond to other things later, but is there a problem with just picking the towniest looking roleblock and asking them to do it? between kirize/m4x/thukk0 and ryan/samuel/jammy, I'd say thukk0 and samuel were the most town-motivated roleblocks.

and lol my bad. anyway, here.

/unvote
/vote kirize

That is not a bad idea, but I'd pick two roleblocks at least, honestly.

I know, risk of two escorts going into Ladd. But that's still better them by a little chance picking the Mafia one. If we did that, Maf will know that Ladd is free to shoot, and Witch takes hold of him, which means catastrophe.

I'd rather both escorts went into him, we don't even know if we have two of them.

All of this assuming Kirize is not a Witch which seems likely.

[ladd]

Even if we pick the wrong one, there is no way for Witch to know that so I doubt they would waste their actions on me regardless.

Sorry, don't have much time rn, I wanted to re read some stuff.

[ladd]

What do you think about LoF alouvre?

[Mroz4k]

I pushed Lexiam only after he claimed witched. I didn't care any more after that, didn't even read his ISO. also note that I made a gut scum lean on James2. I would have just put null on him as well I think if I was mafia.

When it comes to Mel. The honest truth is that she never struck me as scum. I only voted her because I was annoyed with the game. And I personally hate when there is a difficulty getting enough votes, so I figured I would throw my vote in quickly, so as to not disturb and also accelerate the game ("cuz why not"). I would have supported any lynch. Which you can see that I did with my vote being everywhere. Except some townreads at the time.

The lexiam thing makes sense. I thought they were based on reads. Though 50% of scum are neutrals btw, and possible buss.

Me voting Mel is kind of NAI tho? How is it related to james2 other timing? Other than vote timings with james2, which you can say about persian too, I don't see a strong case. Also mafia voting simultaneoisly, I dunno is that really a mafia tactic. Eh.

what I highlighted are typical bits that are not very Town motivated imo.

I'm not going to make a whole ISO cause I'm not on computer. Impossible to do on phone.

The first highlight says you would null read your fellow Maf as Maf. That's a bullshit comment. You could have easily townread or scumread them as Mafia too, but you can say all day long you would null read them. Unless Mafia did something that goes distinctively against your logic, and it's distinguishable, you can't use it as an argument.

Second bit is the same thing. You claim to only vote Mel because fuck it. nobody can prove it cause no one reads your mind.

Last thing is reason enough. Also love the doubtcast on Persian. But that's NAI.

[Mroz4k]

Little cherry on the top - love how because I'm pushing you, you demand to have me investigated. That's OMGUS boy.

Never did I defend Ladd. You have a weird definition of defense. I merely pointed out the bad logic in your push.

Yet you continue to tunnel Ladd using that same stupid logic.

[alouvre]

What do you think about LoF alouvre?

hm, he's acting much more better now. still think some of the things he says are unfounded and dislike how he didn't push against the mela case but he's pushing his views now at least.

and yes I'll make a thorough post explaining all of this, LoF, chillax.

[alouvre]

"much more better"

how can you not have fun reading my posts

[Mroz4k]

well then...
TheForgot3n1

Since you don't have an ISO in the first post...



alouvre
Fuck phone isos...

ladd

anyone else you can do yourselves, in the URL just place name of a person behind the author= part.

[Mroz4k]

Oh it's PKR again, who has not contributed nothing yet...

[Mroz4k]

Nvm forgotten had ISO in the op. Still the rest should be helpful.

[LordofFail]

id be fine with lynching kirize if that wasn't clear already, but i do not want to have a lynch hammered until the last 12 hours of the day (maybe last 24 hours since this game has low activity levels)

[PokemonKidRyan]

Oh it's PKR again, who has not contributed nothing yet...

Oh hi. Haven't been long broke up for half term.
Activity will be significantly increased for 1 week.

id be fine with lynching kirize if that wasn't clear already, but i do not want to have a lynch hammered until the last 12 hours of the day (maybe last 24 hours since this game has low activity levels)

I'd say last 12, as long as we know that we're going to get the votes needed for the hammer at that time.

[ryanyb]

Someone summarize what I missed.

[LordofFail]

Someone summarize what I missed.

I got bored of doing fuck all and started actually playing. Then people got angry at my opinions.

And some other stuff happened.

Oh, and ladd revealed as vig and claims to have shot kirize last night who came up as being night immune.

[alex1234321]

God worst quoting I've ever managed xD Can't let it be like that.

PersianRugs - null
SamuelJackson1972 - slight scum
ladd - slight town
LordofFail - nullscum
Zero - nullscum
TheForgot3n1 - strong town
Lexiam - null
Kirize12 - moderate scum
Anonymous0726 - null
milte345 - nullscum
Mroz - slight Town
yauaustin202 - null
ryanyb - nulltown
npromin1 - nulltown

/vote Kirize

Pressure vote

The most opportunistic reads list, followed by the most opportunistic vote. This is worse than myself and I don't see an excuse for it.

Alex explain your reads list. I asked you a question before as well and you ignored it. You can't be this sheepish this game without reason.

I meant nulltown for you, Forgotten. And this was mainly just gutreads because I'm on mobile 99% of the time and this was just a quick list.

[TheForgot3n1]

Okay from strong town to nulltown. I suppose that works.

This game, the reads, the pushes, the reactions, the lack of reactions, the laziness when refuting people. Am I the only one to whom this game feels off?

[alouvre]

yes.

[TheForgot3n1]

Anyway let me put my vote somewhere it has some use. Not on kirize even tho its best there atm, but alex because "pressure".

No but I could see alex flipping any scum role.

/vote Alex

[TheForgot3n1]

yes.

But the game is like a joke xD There is not a single strong town player. The ones "leading" the town act partially scummy and are difficult to get a good read on.

WHERE ARE THE TOWNIES?

I haven't been feeling it earlier but you might be more towny then I thought earlier, alouvre and ladd. Still... yeah I dunno. Shit's so blurry this game to me. Way different from 10E or even VFM. w/e

Maybe it's fine to let semi-scummy players go if they are contributing more than the majority?

[LordofFail]

yes.

But the game is like a joke xD There is not a single strong town player. The ones "leading" the town act partially scummy and are difficult to get a good read on.

WHERE ARE THE TOWNIES?

I haven't been feeling it earlier but you might be more towny then I thought earlier, alouvre and ladd. Still... yeah I dunno. Shit's so blurry this game to me. Way different from 10E or even VFM. w/e

Maybe it's fine to let semi-scummy players go if they are contributing more than the majority?

heres a townie

[Mroz4k]

Oh it's PKR again, who has not contributed nothing yet...

Oh hi. Haven't been long broke up for half term.
Activity will be significantly increased for 1 week.

id be fine with lynching kirize if that wasn't clear already, but i do not want to have a lynch hammered until the last 12 hours of the day (maybe last 24 hours since this game has low activity levels)

I'd say last 12, as long as we know that we're going to get the votes needed for the hammer at that time.

You have been here twice in the thread without giving anything into the thread.

Why are you lurking?

yes.

But the game is like a joke xD There is not a single strong town player. The ones "leading" the town act partially scummy and are difficult to get a good read on.

WHERE ARE THE TOWNIES?

I haven't been feeling it earlier but you might be more towny then I thought earlier, alouvre and ladd. Still... yeah I dunno. Shit's so blurry this game to me. Way different from 10E or even VFM. w/e

Maybe it's fine to let semi-scummy players go if they are contributing more than the majority?

The moment scum starts contributing more then Town, Town lost. That's why scum will kill off active players sooner and leaves inactives last.

You call all the townie players scummy because of their play style. None of them are scummy, not much at least, but you scumread them. Just because you scumread them that doesn't make them scum.

You expect all of us to act like tryhards, that's your problem. We are playing a game and enjoying it.

[Mroz4k]

Something that does raise a question is that Mafia didn't kill last night. Ladd could know of Kirize being immune this way as a Mafia as well, but the Vig claim is pretty risky play for Maf at this point.

[ladd]

Busy today, sorry.

True told me TK can roll in RT by the way.

[ladd]

Something that does raise a question is that Mafia didn't kill last night. Ladd could know of Kirize being immune this way as a Mafia as well, but the Vig claim is pretty risky play for Maf at this point.

That's completely retarded play from Mafia, not risky play. Risky play implies there is a reward and if the reward is hanging a possible Witch and being roleblocked all game and being easily PoEd, I would say that's called retarded play.

[TheForgot3n1]

yes.

But the game is like a joke xD There is not a single strong town player. The ones "leading" the town act partially scummy and are difficult to get a good read on.

WHERE ARE THE TOWNIES?

I haven't been feeling it earlier but you might be more towny then I thought earlier, alouvre and ladd. Still... yeah I dunno. Shit's so blurry this game to me. Way different from 10E or even VFM. w/e

Maybe it's fine to let semi-scummy players go if they are contributing more than the majority?

You call all the townie players scummy because of their play style. None of them are scummy, not much at least, but you scumread them. Just because you scumread them that doesn't make them scum.

You expect all of us to act like tryhards, that's your problem. We are playing a game and enjoying it.

You keep repeating the same thing without examples, adding nothing.

And you don't have to be bad because you aren't tryharding. Nevertheless if you didn't know this is an episode, it is supposed to be tryhard.