BAN APPEAL - NAME: CHRISSTINAX

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BAN APPEAL - NAME: CHRISSTINAX

Postby Chrisstinax » Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:00 pm

Hello, i have seen my account was ban for " gamethrowing. " i have emailed you guys before about a connection issue with my provider: Spectrum. I have difficulties connecting to some matches - sometimes im able to play a game another i am not and it takes me back to the login screen. I have spent a decent amount of money on Salem and would hate to lose my account for this issue. I am sorry that it is an inconvenience for the players and you guys. I would love for my account to be unbanned. If you need proof of me emailing you guys months ago about this issue i can easily provide that. I just dislike how players will report you as " gamethrowing " for leaving a match when you lag out. I wish that when it happens you can see this and remove any reports from the game you lagged out of. I faithfully play this game and have for some years now, its literally an escape for me when i play it, i love the game. I cant express it enough how i would hate to lose my account over this issue. My account name is: Chrisstinax - Thank you for whatever judgement you decide to give me, just hearing me out would really help me out a lot. xoxo
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Re: BAN APPEAL - NAME: CHRISSTINAX

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Re: BAN APPEAL - NAME: CHRISSTINAX

Postby Flavorable » Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:41 am

As you can see, the Gamethrowing report has nothing to do with your connection, but rather with you outting yourselfs witch whilst on the stand.
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Re: BAN APPEAL - NAME: CHRISSTINAX

Postby Chrisstinax » Sun Jul 18, 2021 11:04 am

I went through my report history and i seen that i was reported for game throwing when i said " 7 and 12 is mafia " which wasn't true at all, im confused on how this was deemed as guilty when none of the targets i mentioned was mafia. Bertha Kink. (12) was transporter and Deo. Thomas (7) was escort. I dont understand how i get banned for using a gaming tactic to point town off of the ne/mafias. WHEN THE NUMBERS I SAID WAS MAFIA WAS CONFIRMED TOWN! LMAO you have to be kidding me? i got banned for giving incorrect information that you guys deemed guilty for being " correct? " IM WITCH! ISNT MAFIA'S / NE JOB TO MAKE TOWN WONDER WHO'S THE KILLER, GET INFORMATION AND CAUSE CAOS? thats what i did ... and yet im banned for it? " gave up teammates for no gain, gave up mafia " WHEN THE REPORT EVEN SHOWS I DIDNT ... so a mod approved this report without actually investigating it? if they actually looked they would see it wasnt mafia that i called out. Pls unban my account ... like this is crazy.


EDIT: i was already caught and i didn't get banned for outing myself as witch !! the report said i outed mafia which i didn't ... i got banned for giving up myself? that makes no sense at all .... LOL if i got banned for outing myself as witch then why did the player that reported me say that i " gave up teammates " and that deemed as guilty when you just mentioned that i only gave up myself? so i get lied on and you guys ban me for that? LMAOO WHAT

Honestly, i rather be suspended for a week than lose my account over A FALSE REPORT! i never gave up my teammates / mafia like the report said i did ! You're focusing on me saying " yup im witch " when i could've been jester trying to get lynched. The whole point of the game is to lie but i didnt get reported for GIVING UP MYSELF! I GOT REPORTED FOR GIVING UP MAFIA WHICH I DIDNT? are you understanding that? im banned BC A FALSE REPORT WAS DEEMED AS GUILTY FROM A MOD WHEN THE NUMBERS I MENTIOED WASN'T MAFIA? you cant tell me outing myself had anything to do with the report when the only reason it was deemed guilty was bc a player said that i gave up mafia which wasn't true. IT SINCE I DIDNT THATS AN ERROR ON UR END!

So im losing my account because you guys couldn't thoroughly investigate the report and see that the numbers i said wasn't mafia. That's not game throwing ! and you can say giving up myself is but that's not why i was reported ! LOL so tell me how the reporting details (from the person who reported me) " gave up teammates for no gain, Gave up maf " HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH MYSELF? I DIDNT GIVE UP MAF AND MYSELF IS IRRELVANT ! i shouldn't be banned over this, it's a mix up. And for you guys to ban me over this just shows that you guys dont care for the people who play ur game and spend money on it. I don't understand how the reasoning for the ban doesn't even match the details of why i was reported...
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Re: BAN APPEAL - NAME: CHRISSTINAX

Postby Jerme » Sun Jul 25, 2021 1:35 am

Greetings, in the latest report you did out yourself as Witch, this is gmaehtorwing on its own. Outting the Mafias 7 (Hyponotist) and 12 (Godfather) is not considered throwing at this point.
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Re: BAN APPEAL - NAME: CHRISSTINAX

Postby Flavorable » Sun Jul 25, 2021 3:26 am

I don't understand how the reasoning for the ban doesn't even match the details of why i was reported...


Just to clarify this a bit more: Details are left by people who report you. However, our jurors and Judges read through the entire report to see if the report is valid. The details don't always cover the (whole) rulebreak.

i got banned for giving up myself? that makes no sense at all

As for this: This is something that is stated in the rules, quite literally.

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Re: BAN APPEAL - NAME: CHRISSTINAX

Postby Chrisstinax » Sun Jul 25, 2021 3:34 am

The latest report was made because a player said i outed mafia (i didnt) which you just said wasn't throwing, so how was this report deemed guilty? Like i previously mentioned before I don't understand how the reasoning for the ban doesn't even match the details of why i was reported. If i was gamethrowing as witch then why didn't i get reported for that? why didnt the reporting details say anything about it? I was already caught and i could've been jester or exe. I dont think that this is a fair ban considering you just admitted that i didnt gamethrow like the report said i did. And if we're focusing on the report itself then i shouldn't be banned for this, right?

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" gave up teammates for no gain, Gave up maf. " but you just said that doesnt count, So explain to me how this was a fair ban? This is a false report and you just admitted that it was.

Im sorry i outed myself as witch when i was already caught, i didnt think that was reportable nor gamethrowing considering i was dying anyways. But banning me over this is extreme and unnecessary. Defiantly when i was reported for something you confirmed wasnt gamethrowing. Its not fair to ban someone over a false report that was made on them - a suspension, i would understand but this is a little too far.

EDIT: (just read your response)

I was dead no matter what i claimed because i was caught already. And i didn't ruin mafia's chances when i literally pointed town off of them. I still dont think this Ban is fair, i feel like a warning would be a lot better considering i didnt think coming clean when i was caught was gamethrowing for myself and my team. And i apologized for that. I dont wanna lose my account over this >.< It was still a mix up - report detials were false and i was caught already. Cant i just have a warning?
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Re: BAN APPEAL - NAME: CHRISSTINAX

Postby Jerme » Sun Jul 25, 2021 4:26 am

Suspensions are more or less the warnings in our suspension system. You have usually three suspensions before a perm ban is applied (unless severe rulebreaks are performed).
You did out two Mafia Members when you got lynched, as I did state in my reply were the given Numbrs of yours Mafia members (not the role you claimed they were, but that besides the point). The report details might not cover the (full) offense, those are usually user typed and may be helpful when the report is judged.

In the report did you out yourself as witch without any attempt to defend yourself in any way, that is point blank gamethrowing. You could still have ways to fight/combat their claim, as I doubt they were 100% confirmed.
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Re: BAN APPEAL - NAME: CHRISSTINAX

Postby Chrisstinax » Sun Jul 25, 2021 4:40 am

I haven't had three suspension, i would rather have that and have a better understanding of what's gamethrowing and what isnt than to be banned. And i didnt out mafia - the previous Mod even said that wasn't considered gamethrowing, plus the numbers were town members. I just said numbers to point town off of them. All i can do is learn from it and not let it happen again. Im sorry, all i can say tbh. In my head i was dead already, so there was no need to make a fake will when i was already caught and it was wrong of me. It was just one game out of the many i played but nobody seems to look at that. I dont even gamethrow, i played over 1k games and if i was normally like this i wouldn't of had my account still. When players are on the loading screen maybe you guys should put up " gamethrowing " reminders because i didnt know that counted. I still think that there are better options than banning me for this. Plus in the same game a player outed themselves as exe, like how is that any different nor fair?
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Re: BAN APPEAL - NAME: CHRISSTINAX

Postby Jerme » Sun Jul 25, 2021 12:39 pm

Since you have four reprots with a gulty verdict, you did have three suspensions before. Each guilty verdict suspends your account.
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Re: BAN APPEAL - NAME: CHRISSTINAX

Postby Chrisstinax » Sun Jul 25, 2021 12:44 pm

Well I didn’t know I was suspended three times. I couldn’t play for a long time because Salem doesn’t work with my internet company. I never seen that I had three suspensions, I only had one. But ING name shouldn’t even count as a suspension. Plus, I haven’t had any game throwing reports. I don’t feel like this is a fair ban, i just gave up and left because I was caught. Does this mean im staying banned?
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Re: BAN APPEAL - NAME: CHRISSTINAX

Postby LevinSnakesRise » Sun Jul 25, 2021 2:45 pm

I'm sorry, you're saying this shouldn't be a guilty or suspended? You were lucky it was just a suspension.

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Either way, you just gave up. You made it clear you weren't going to defend yourself, just outed yourself, didn't try to counter, and you spite-revealed Mafia in turn of getting voted up.

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