Is it reportable

[Andrija04]

Is leaving reportable if the host started an all any game with 7 players because in most cases when this happens some people leave?

[James2]

Yes

[Flavorable]

Leaving prematurely is -always- reportable, no matter which game mode or how many players in a game.

[SpellChecker]

Unless they had absolutely no chance at winning, then no, it wouldn't be considered reportable. Leaving when you have no chance at winning is fine.

Leaving the game prematurely though, would be reportable.

[GuardianOverkill]

This seems like a really petty reason to report someone.

[LevinSnakesRise]

This seems like a really petty reason to report someone.

But neither the less a valid reason.

[GuardianOverkill]

Eh. Really only if they have a history of it. Which another player couldnt possibly know.

[ZzFifthElementzZ]

A judge, moderator or admin ... I would like your reply on this. (I didn't know where to place this comment, and a new forum seemed unnecessary)

Q: Simply, why was this deemed innocent?
https://imgur.com/a/CDXsPf1

[Jerme]

A judge, moderator or admin ... I would like your reply on this. (I didn't know where to place this comment, and a new forum seemed unnecessary)

Q: Simply, why was this deemed innocent?
https://imgur.com/a/CDXsPf1

Because this report was never brought to us: The majority of the jurors voted innocent on it.

[Flavorable]

A judge, moderator or admin ... I would like your reply on this. (I didn't know where to place this comment, and a new forum seemed unnecessary)

Q: Simply, why was this deemed innocent?
https://imgur.com/a/CDXsPf1

As an FYI:
To get a quick answer about questions like these, join the ToS Trial Discord: https://discord.gg/2P6Wreb

There's generally always someone there to answer Trial related questions.

[abizoey]

Whoever just changed that report to guilty might want to change it back - jurors were right to vote innocent. That’s a player’s ign.

[Flavorable]

Whoever just changed that report to guilty might want to change it back - jurors were right to vote innocent. That’s a player’s ign.

Nice catch.

[ZzFifthElementzZ]

Ah yes. I see it now, thanks for that all!

[GuardianOverkill]

The only way to help keep track of a history of leaving a live game is to report them for it.

So then how do we make sure the right people are having the reports voted innocent? Those reports also stay on the person's record. Sounds like a serious flaw to me.

[GuardianOverkill]

The way the Trial System deals with leaving reports is as follows:
All jurors are told to guilty any leaving report where the player actually left. Judges handle leaving reports from there on out. It takes 5 guilty leaving reports I believe within a 6 months period (because most reports expire after 6 months) for one to actually be suspending for leaving, because it is known and accepted that people will either glitch out of games, lose internet connections or just have to leave when they otherwise wouldn't. You will never get suspended for leaving 1 game without any history. However if you are frequently leaving games in a 6 month period, say someone hates being mafia and they immediately quit out, that will be caught and you will be suspended for it.

The current system does have it's flaws. 6 months is a long time to have leaving reports piling on your account, especially when Flash can be rather buggy a times or freeze up. But the developers have a better leaving system planned for the future. But the Devs are completely focused on the Unity port right now.

I also want to note that people very rarely get suspended for leaving in the first place. I hardly ever see appeals coming through with leaving reports listed.

This is the beginning of the inefficiency of this system.

[RetralMega]

The way the Trial System deals with leaving reports is as follows:
All jurors are told to guilty any leaving report where the player actually left. Judges handle leaving reports from there on out. It takes 5 guilty leaving reports I believe within a 6 months period (because most reports expire after 6 months) for one to actually be suspending for leaving, because it is known and accepted that people will either glitch out of games, lose internet connections or just have to leave when they otherwise wouldn't. You will never get suspended for leaving 1 game without any history. However if you are frequently leaving games in a 6 month period, say someone hates being mafia and they immediately quit out, that will be caught and you will be suspended for it.

The current system does have it's flaws. 6 months is a long time to have leaving reports piling on your account, especially when Flash can be rather buggy a times or freeze up. But the developers have a better leaving system planned for the future. But the Devs are completely focused on the Unity port right now.

I also want to note that people very rarely get suspended for leaving in the first place. I hardly ever see appeals coming through with leaving reports listed.

This is the beginning of the inefficiency of this system.

The real inefficiency is that jurors and Judges mark reports as Innocent despite being told it's a Guilty because they have to ruin the game for at least 42 people rather than the first 14. You have to continuously break the same rule to be punished for it and I've seen players with over 12 reports and something gets marked Innocent because it's only the second time the user mentioned fucking kids.

[Jerme]

I feel the question as been answered and is now getting used to derail the thread.
@Retral: If you have a better idea for how to handle the leaving/afk reports, PM me with your idea.