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Re: DELTARUNE

Postby Magnasword2 » Tue Nov 27, 2018 7:28 pm

Just here to say Alphys is worst character and Susie is best. Okay continue on.
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Re: DELTARUNE

Postby Alicitzen » Tue Nov 27, 2018 7:31 pm

Magnasword2 wrote:Just here to say Alphys is worst character and Susie is best. Okay continue on.

didnt you get banned or rage quit or something?
go back to that
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Re: DELTARUNE

Postby MafiaMenace » Tue Nov 27, 2018 10:49 pm

JoltikIsDubby wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:Well we don’t know how it connects to undertale

I like to consider this game a continuation of the true pacifist ending where all the monsters go back up to the surface. So yeah, it's a sequel lol

I like the new and improved battle system, I think it's kinda cool to have spells you can use to put enemies to sleep and spare, etc. The comedy is also fantastic in this game too. All of the characters manage to have great lines, probably because of how well-developed they are.

I'm not sure how I feel about the "your choices don't matter" theme. I think a big part of UT was being able to choice your own path, and the different paths really made it stand out. This game puts extreme emphasis on the fact that your choices will have no effect on the ending. While that's not completely true (there's apparently a pacifist AND a neutral ending), this game really doesn't give you that much freedom when it comes to choosing the story (if you don't count the side quests ig).

But overall, had a great time with this sequel. Looking forward to the next chapters, potentially even paying for them if Fox releases them for money.

it's not bro
there's shit to prove as such
like undyne not knowing who alphys is

there are reoccurring characters just for the sake of reoccurring characters
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Re: DELTARUNE

Postby MafiaMenace » Tue Nov 27, 2018 11:03 pm

nothing that happened in deltarune is real
(the magic shit i mean)

none of that ever happened
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Re: DELTARUNE

Postby JoltikIsDubby » Wed Nov 28, 2018 5:56 am

Multiuniverse wrote:
JoltikIsDubby wrote:
Multiuniverse wrote:
JoltikIsDubby wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:Well we don’t know how it connects to undertale

I like to consider this game a continuation of the true pacifist ending where all the monsters go back up to the surface. So yeah, it's a sequel lol

I like the new and improved battle system, I think it's kinda cool to have spells you can use to put enemies to sleep and spare, etc. The comedy is also fantastic in this game too. All of the characters manage to have great lines, probably because of how well-developed they are.

I'm not sure how I feel about the "your choices don't matter" theme. I think a big part of UT was being able to choice your own path, and the different paths really made it stand out. This game puts extreme emphasis on the fact that your choices will have no effect on the ending. While that's not completely true (there's apparently a pacifist AND a neutral ending), this game really doesn't give you that much freedom when it comes to choosing the story (if you don't count the side quests ig).

But overall, had a great time with this sequel. Looking forward to the next chapters, potentially even paying for them if Fox releases them for money.


It's not the continuation of the true pacifist ending

I can't believe I seriously needed to point that out (especially considering it's literally the first four words of my post)

I personally consider this a continuation because Kris' character and even appearance are very similar to Frisk's, and it makes sense that Frisk could stay with Toriel given that's a choice you can make at the end of UT. Undyne, Asgore, Toriel, and Alphys work jobs which fit their personalities, interests, and even events from UT, so they haven't changed as characters. The same applies to Sans and Papyrus, but without the "jobs" part. And a couple of scenes from the true pacifist ending credits are actually very similar to some places in DR.

I know this game isn't a true "continuation" because it hasn't developed on any of the already-existing characters, and Frisk is nowhere to be seen. But I feel like the fact that I can still see DR as a continuation ties in to why I think this game is a sequel even by (sarcastic air quotes because I disagree with it) "definition".


You can't really use personal opinion as evidence in an argument so even though the "definition" provided defines deltarune as a sequel your personal opinion cannot be used to support the point

I didn't realize how stupid that post was until after I posted it lol, apologies
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Re: DELTARUNE

Postby Alicitzen » Wed Nov 28, 2018 5:04 pm

MafiaMenace wrote:nothing that happened in deltarune is real
(the magic shit i mean)

none of that ever happened

>using a game theory video as truth
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Re: DELTARUNE

Postby MafiaMenace » Wed Nov 28, 2018 5:40 pm

Alicitzen wrote:
MafiaMenace wrote:nothing that happened in deltarune is real
(the magic shit i mean)

none of that ever happened

>using a game theory video as truth
:LUL:

its solid evidence
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Re: DELTARUNE

Postby MafiaMenace » Wed Nov 28, 2018 5:43 pm

MafiaMenace wrote:
Alicitzen wrote:
MafiaMenace wrote:nothing that happened in deltarune is real
(the magic shit i mean)

none of that ever happened

>using a game theory video as truth
:LUL:

its solid evidence

hes been right about a lot of things
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Re: DELTARUNE

Postby Chemist1422 » Wed Nov 28, 2018 5:44 pm

MafiaMenace wrote:
MafiaMenace wrote:
Alicitzen wrote:
MafiaMenace wrote:nothing that happened in deltarune is real
(the magic shit i mean)

none of that ever happened

>using a game theory video as truth
:LUL:

its solid evidence

hes been right about a lot of things

okay but that doesn't make it a completely true fact
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Re: DELTARUNE

Postby MafiaMenace » Wed Nov 28, 2018 5:45 pm

Chemist1422 wrote:
MafiaMenace wrote:
MafiaMenace wrote:
Alicitzen wrote:
MafiaMenace wrote:nothing that happened in deltarune is real
(the magic shit i mean)

none of that ever happened

>using a game theory video as truth
:LUL:

its solid evidence

hes been right about a lot of things

okay but that doesn't make it a completely true fact

disprove it dude
he gives good evidence

and if he is right about it the story is really fucking good
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Re: DELTARUNE

Postby MafiaMenace » Wed Nov 28, 2018 6:22 pm

*disprove it not being real
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Re: DELTARUNE

Postby Chemist1422 » Wed Nov 28, 2018 6:39 pm

I don't need to disprove it. You're treating it as 100% canon when it's in reality (joke intended) not. It hasn't been confirmed at all.
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Re: DELTARUNE

Postby MafiaMenace » Wed Nov 28, 2018 6:51 pm

Chemist1422 wrote:I don't need to disprove it. You're treating it as 100% canon when it's in reality (joke intended) not. It hasn't been confirmed at all.

Chemist you dont understand that many games hide their lore intentionally
especially in the case of undertale, and definitely with deltarune

but if you want to deny it, back it up
what points are wrong? why are they wrong?
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Re: DELTARUNE

Postby MafiaMenace » Wed Nov 28, 2018 6:55 pm

you cant just say im wrong because its not confirmed
thats lazy as shit as well as games like these leave stuff out to be put together
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Re: DELTARUNE

Postby Chemist1422 » Wed Nov 28, 2018 7:59 pm

MafiaMenace wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:I don't need to disprove it. You're treating it as 100% canon when it's in reality (joke intended) not. It hasn't been confirmed at all.

Chemist you dont understand that many games hide their lore intentionally
especially in the case of undertale, and definitely with deltarune

but if you want to deny it, back it up
what points are wrong? why are they wrong?

MafiaMenace wrote:you cant just say im wrong because its not confirmed
thats lazy as shit as well as games like these leave stuff out to be put together

I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm saying you can't have it as 100% truth. You can have it be true in your interpretation, and that's fine, but you can't make other people change because "it's confirmed" when it isn't
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Re: DELTARUNE

Postby MafiaMenace » Wed Nov 28, 2018 8:10 pm

Chemist1422 wrote:
MafiaMenace wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:I don't need to disprove it. You're treating it as 100% canon when it's in reality (joke intended) not. It hasn't been confirmed at all.

Chemist you dont understand that many games hide their lore intentionally
especially in the case of undertale, and definitely with deltarune

but if you want to deny it, back it up
what points are wrong? why are they wrong?

MafiaMenace wrote:you cant just say im wrong because its not confirmed
thats lazy as shit as well as games like these leave stuff out to be put together

I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm saying you can't have it as 100% truth. You can have it be true in your interpretation, and that's fine, but you can't make other people change because "it's confirmed" when it isn't

the thing is theres evidence towards it being a completely different world as well as it not being real
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Re: DELTARUNE

Postby Chemist1422 » Wed Nov 28, 2018 8:24 pm

MafiaMenace wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
MafiaMenace wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:I don't need to disprove it. You're treating it as 100% canon when it's in reality (joke intended) not. It hasn't been confirmed at all.

Chemist you dont understand that many games hide their lore intentionally
especially in the case of undertale, and definitely with deltarune

but if you want to deny it, back it up
what points are wrong? why are they wrong?

MafiaMenace wrote:you cant just say im wrong because its not confirmed
thats lazy as shit as well as games like these leave stuff out to be put together

I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm saying you can't have it as 100% truth. You can have it be true in your interpretation, and that's fine, but you can't make other people change because "it's confirmed" when it isn't

the thing is theres evidence towards it being a completely different world as well as it not being real

Completely different world is confirmed iirc, but the evidence doesn't 100% confirm it. For example, the evidence in undertale points to the mysteryman sprite being Gaster, but there's no definitive proof.
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Re: DELTARUNE

Postby MafiaMenace » Wed Nov 28, 2018 8:31 pm

Chemist1422 wrote:
MafiaMenace wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
MafiaMenace wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:I don't need to disprove it. You're treating it as 100% canon when it's in reality (joke intended) not. It hasn't been confirmed at all.

Chemist you dont understand that many games hide their lore intentionally
especially in the case of undertale, and definitely with deltarune

but if you want to deny it, back it up
what points are wrong? why are they wrong?

MafiaMenace wrote:you cant just say im wrong because its not confirmed
thats lazy as shit as well as games like these leave stuff out to be put together

I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm saying you can't have it as 100% truth. You can have it be true in your interpretation, and that's fine, but you can't make other people change because "it's confirmed" when it isn't

the thing is theres evidence towards it being a completely different world as well as it not being real

Completely different world is confirmed iirc, but the evidence doesn't 100% confirm it. For example, the evidence in undertale points to the mysteryman sprite being Gaster, but there's no definitive proof.

you know the cat merchant?
when kris and susie return you can clearly see a plush in the room with the design of the cat,
implying its imaginary

also the weapons names when you return to reality
wooden sword ---> pencil
spooky sword --> halloween pencil
implying its imaginary

there's more but you'd have to watch the video

the lore part is ass but him talking about it being imaginary is good in its own

there's proof yet you are denying it because toby hasnt confirmed it
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Re: DELTARUNE

Postby Chemist1422 » Wed Nov 28, 2018 8:33 pm

I think we're arguing the same thing just in different ways. My point is this: In your interpretation of the game, you are 100% correct, but other people might interpret it differently.
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Re: DELTARUNE

Postby MafiaMenace » Wed Nov 28, 2018 8:35 pm

Chemist1422 wrote:I think we're arguing the same thing just in different ways. My point is this: In your interpretation of the game, you are 100% correct, but other people might interpret it differently.

dude that is the most vague thing to say

someones wrong and someones right here

we cant all be right dude
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Re: DELTARUNE

Postby MafiaMenace » Wed Nov 28, 2018 8:53 pm

but if you really are gonna end it like that then im too bored to try and carry this on
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Re: DELTARUNE

Postby Chemist1422 » Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:02 pm

MafiaMenace wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:I think we're arguing the same thing just in different ways. My point is this: In your interpretation of the game, you are 100% correct, but other people might interpret it differently.

dude that is the most vague thing to say

someones wrong and someones right here

we cant all be right dude

My point is we can't prove who's right unless toby confirms it

You're right to you, and I'm right to me. That's it.
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Re: DELTARUNE

Postby Alicitzen » Wed Nov 28, 2018 11:53 pm

MafiaMenace wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
MafiaMenace wrote:
MafiaMenace wrote:
Alicitzen wrote:
MafiaMenace wrote:nothing that happened in deltarune is real
(the magic shit i mean)

none of that ever happened

>using a game theory video as truth
:LUL:

its solid evidence

hes been right about a lot of things

okay but that doesn't make it a completely true fact

disprove it dude
he gives good evidence

and if he is right about it the story is really fucking good

:LUL:
Yep Sans is Ness, what a great COMPLETELY INDISPUTABLE FACT.
And I'm just gonna add , dream theories are absolute cancer of the theory community due to their nature. You can say literally anything is a dream and it will become indisputable by design.
Its called Last thursdayism.
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Re: DELTARUNE

Postby Alicitzen » Wed Nov 28, 2018 11:57 pm

Hey did you know the game town of salem is all just a dream of the survivor, reimagining their traumatic past?
This is actually indisputable canon.
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Re: DELTARUNE

Postby MafiaMenace » Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:25 am

Alicitzen wrote:
MafiaMenace wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
MafiaMenace wrote:
MafiaMenace wrote:
Alicitzen wrote:
MafiaMenace wrote:nothing that happened in deltarune is real
(the magic shit i mean)

none of that ever happened

>using a game theory video as truth
:LUL:

its solid evidence

hes been right about a lot of things

okay but that doesn't make it a completely true fact

disprove it dude
he gives good evidence

and if he is right about it the story is really fucking good

:LUL:
Yep Sans is Ness, what a great COMPLETELY INDISPUTABLE FACT.
And I'm just gonna add , dream theories are absolute cancer of the theory community due to their nature. You can say literally anything is a dream and it will become indisputable by design.
Its called Last thursdayism.
Its fucking terrible.

oh sans is ness was a fucking dumpster fire
but even so, you might find something of value in a pile of trash

this wasnt a dream theory, this was their imagination
its a big difference

i dont care about the deep lore factor like what the rest of the video was about, but it did play out in their imagination and none of the evidence that was stated has been disproven

do that and ill accept my l
until then im going to be stubborn as shit
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