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Re: Chess

Postby Shilster » Mon Dec 25, 2017 6:07 pm

UzayAltay wrote:I was At tournament at Weekend . And the reason I hated at quenn endgames .
Game Goes 157 moves , at the end I won , but I wasn't Happy .

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@chit , chess puzzles are generally positions Who seems equal , but You can win by a series of move . As win , winning a piece or more , checkmate , or a winning endgame .

Alternatively , it is possible You try Defend a position in a chess puzzle , Find True moves or you will lose . Generally this puzzles are harder than winning puzzles , because defending is almost always harder than attacking .

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Re: Chess

Postby UzayAltay » Wed Dec 27, 2017 12:52 pm

I Just noticed it is 151 move , not 157 .

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1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 exd4 4. Bc4 Bc5 5. c3 Nf6 6. e5 d5 7. Bb5 Ne4 8. cxd4 Be7 9. Nc3 O-O 10. h3 f5 11. exf6 e.p. Bxf6 12. O-O Bf5 13. Be3 Qd6 14. Qe2 Ne7 15. Bd3 Nxc3 16. bxc3 Bxd3 17. Qxd3 Ng6 18. Qd2 c6 19. Rfe1 Rae8 20. Re2 Re6 21. Rae1 Rfe8 22. Bg5 Rxe2 23. Rxe2 Rxe2 24. Qxe2 Qe7 25. Qd2 Bxg5 26. Nxg5 h6 27. Nf3 Qe4 28. Qe3 Nf4 29. Kf1 Qb1+ 30. Ne1 Qb5+ 31. Kg1 Qe2 32. Qxf4 Qxe1+ 33. Kh2 Qxc3 34. Qb8+ Kh7 35. Qxa7 b5 36. h4 Qd3 37. Qc5 Qg6 38. g3 Qf5 39. Kg2 Qe4+ 40. Kh2 Qe2 41. Kg2 Qe4+ 42. Kh2 Qe2 43. Kg2 Qxa2 44. Qxc6 Qc4 45. Qb6 Qe2 46. h5 Qxh5 47. Qxb5 Qf5 48. Qe2 Kg6 49. Qe8+ Kh7 50. Qe3 Qc2 51. Qe5 Qc6 52. Qf5+ Kg8 53. Kg1 g6 54. Qe5 Kf7 55. Qf4+ Qf6 56. Qc7+ Qe7 57. Qf4+ Kg7 58. Qc1 h5 59. Qf4 Qf6 60. Qc7+ Kh6 61. Qc1+ g5 62. Qe3 Kg7 63. Kg2 Kf7 64. Qc3 Qe6 65. Qc7+ Kg6 66. Qc2+ Kf6 67. Qd2 h4 68. gxh4 Qg4+ 69. Kf1 Qxh4 70. Qe3 Qh1+ 71. Ke2 Qh5+ 72. Kf1 Qd1+ 73. Kg2 Qg4+ 74. Kf1 Qe6 75. Qf3+ Qf5 76. Qe3 g4 77. Qh6+ Kf7 78. Qe3 Kf6 79. Qh6+ Ke7 80. Qe3+ Kd6 81. Qa3+ Kc6 82. Qc5+ Kd7 83. Qb5+ Ke6 84. Qc6+ Kf7 85. Qc3 Qe4 86. Qc7+ Ke6 87. Qc6+ Kf5 88. Qc8+ Qe6 89. Qc2+ Kf6 90. Qc3 Qf5 91. Qe3 Qf3 92. Qe5+ Kf7 93. Qh5+ Ke6 94. Qg6+ Kd7 95. Qg7+ Kc6 96. Qe5 Kb5 97. Qb8+ Kc4 98. Qc7+ Kxd4 99. Qa7+ Kc4 100. Qa4+ Kc5 101. Qa5+ Kc6 102. Qa6+ Kc7 103. Qa7+ Kd8 104. Qb8+ Ke7 105. Qe5+ Kd7 106. Qg7+ Kc6 107. Qg6+ Kd7 108. Qg7+ Ke6 109. Qg6+ Ke5 110. Qe8+ Kf5 111. Qf7+ Ke4 112. Qe6+ Kd3 113. Qa6+ Kd4 114. Qa4+ Kc5 115. Qa5+ Kd6 116. Qd8+ Kc6 117. Qc8+ Kb6 118. Qb8+ Ka5 119. Qa7+ Kb4 120. Qb6+ Ka4 121. Qa6+ Kb3 122. Qb5+ Ka2 123. Qa5+ Kb2 124. Qb4+ Qb3 125. Qd2+ Kb1 126. Kg2 Qf3+ 127. Kg1 Qe4 128. Qc3 Qc4 129. Qg3 Kc2 130. Qg2 Qd4 131. Kh2 Qf4+ 132. Kg1 Qf3 133. Qh2 d4 134. Qc7+ Kd1 135. Qe5 Qd3 136. Qe6 g3 137. Qg4+ Ke1 138. fxg3 Qf1+ 139. Kh2 Qe2+ 140. Kh3 Qxg4+ 141. Kxg4 d3 142. Kf5 d2 143. g4 d1=Q 144. g5 Qd5+ 145. Kf6 Qg8 146. g6 Kf2 147. g7 Kg3 148. Kg6 Kf4 149. Kf6 Ke4 150. Kg6 Ke5 151. Kh6 Kf5 0-1
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Re: Chess - 1.e4 or 1.d4?

Postby lemonader666 » Fri Jul 27, 2018 7:28 am

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Personally I like d4 more because it's more aggressive and I don't have to deal with the Sicilian Defense(even though I love playing that defense as black), but e4 is better if you wanna go for a closed game, which gives you a higher chance of getting draws.

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Re: Chess - 1.e4 or 1.d4?

Postby Dodowarrior44 » Sat Jul 28, 2018 5:32 am

I used to do D4, but the lines for E4 are eaisier. I am rated about 1250 - 1300.
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Re: Chess - 1.e4 or 1.d4?

Postby UzayAltay » Sat Jul 28, 2018 7:57 am

lemonader666 wrote:7-month bump with a question

Personally I like d4 more because it's more aggressive and I don't have to deal with the Sicilian Defense(even though I love playing that defense as black), but e4 is better if you wanna go for a closed game, which gives you a higher chance of getting draws.

Actually it is opposite . d4 generally goes to closest openings , when e4 generally goes to open openings .
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Re: Chess - 1.e4 or 1.d4?

Postby lemonader666 » Sat Jul 28, 2018 8:01 am

UzayAltay wrote:
lemonader666 wrote:7-month bump with a question

Personally I like d4 more because it's more aggressive and I don't have to deal with the Sicilian Defense(even though I love playing that defense as black), but e4 is better if you wanna go for a closed game, which gives you a higher chance of getting draws.

Actually it is opposite . d4 generally goes to closest openings , when e4 generally goes to open openings .

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Re: Chess - 1.e4 or 1.d4?

Postby Dodowarrior44 » Sat Jul 28, 2018 2:37 pm

lemonader666 wrote:7-month bump with a question

Personally I like d4 more because it's more aggressive and I don't have to deal with the Sicilian Defense(even though I love playing that defense as black), but e4 is better if you wanna go for a closed game, which gives you a higher chance of getting draws.


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Re: Chess - 1.e4 or 1.d4?

Postby lemonader666 » Sat Jul 28, 2018 8:27 pm

Dodowarrior44 wrote:
lemonader666 wrote:7-month bump with a question

Personally I like d4 more because it's more aggressive and I don't have to deal with the Sicilian Defense(even though I love playing that defense as black), but e4 is better if you wanna go for a closed game, which gives you a higher chance of getting draws.


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The most popular queen's pawn opening is the queen gambit
The most popular king's pawn opening is the ruy lopez

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Re: Chess - 1.e4 or 1.d4?

Postby jacobm1122 » Sat Jul 28, 2018 9:11 pm

My favorite opening is Grob's Attack/Gambit 1. g4
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Re: Chess - 1.e4 or 1.d4?

Postby lemonader666 » Sat Jul 28, 2018 9:15 pm

jacobm1122 wrote:My favorite opening is Grob's Attack/Gambit 1. g4

why???

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Re: Chess - 1.e4 or 1.d4?

Postby VucubCaquix » Sun Jul 29, 2018 2:17 am

I always do king's pawn, but I only rarely play chess. Haven't played in a long time, and don't actually have a set strategy after that.
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Re: Chess - 1.e4 or 1.d4?

Postby jacobm1122 » Sun Jul 29, 2018 1:50 pm

lemonader666 wrote:
jacobm1122 wrote:My favorite opening is Grob's Attack/Gambit 1. g4

why???

Most players dont know how to deal with it and it creates a more open board than a standard opening, which I find easier to manage
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Re: Chess - 1.e4 or 1.d4?

Postby lemonader666 » Sun Jul 29, 2018 7:01 pm

jacobm1122 wrote:
lemonader666 wrote:
jacobm1122 wrote:My favorite opening is Grob's Attack/Gambit 1. g4

why???

Most players dont know how to deal with it and it creates a more open board than a standard opening, which I find easier to manage

Then isn't the Sokolsky 1. b4 opening better because you can still king-side castle?

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Re: Chess - 1.e4 or 1.d4?

Postby jacobm1122 » Mon Jul 30, 2018 2:51 pm

lemonader666 wrote:
jacobm1122 wrote:
lemonader666 wrote:
jacobm1122 wrote:My favorite opening is Grob's Attack/Gambit 1. g4

why???

Most players dont know how to deal with it and it creates a more open board than a standard opening, which I find easier to manage

Then isn't the Sokolsky 1. b4 opening better because you can still king-side castle?

1. g4 allows 2. Bg3 which is a stronger gambit than 2. Bb3
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Re: Chess - 1.e4 or 1.d4?

Postby lemonader666 » Mon Jul 30, 2018 8:25 pm

jacobm1122 wrote:
lemonader666 wrote:
jacobm1122 wrote:
lemonader666 wrote:
jacobm1122 wrote:My favorite opening is Grob's Attack/Gambit 1. g4

why???

Most players dont know how to deal with it and it creates a more open board than a standard opening, which I find easier to manage

Then isn't the Sokolsky 1. b4 opening better because you can still king-side castle?

1. g4 allows 2. Bg3 which is a stronger gambit than 2. Bb3

Do you encounter more people who queen-side castle than people who king-side castle or something?

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Re: Chess - 1.e4 or 1.d4?

Postby ARandomDouche » Mon Jul 30, 2018 8:29 pm

I'm confused
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Re: Chess - 1.e4 or 1.d4?

Postby lemonader666 » Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:10 pm

ARandomDouche wrote:I'm confused

Learn how to play chess
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Re: Chess - 1.e4 or 1.d4?

Postby Crimson97 » Tue Jul 31, 2018 1:06 am

I use them interchangeably .
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Re: Chess

Postby lemonader666 » Sat Aug 04, 2018 7:54 am

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Which openings do you guys often go for next as white / would you guys prefer as black? Ruy Lopez, Italian, Scotch or Four Knights?

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Re: Chess

Postby Chemist1422 » Sat Aug 04, 2018 10:25 am

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Which openings do you guys often go for next as white / would you guys prefer as black? Ruy Lopez, Italian, Scotch or Four Knights?

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Re: Chess

Postby lemonader666 » Sat Aug 04, 2018 10:27 am

Chemist1422 wrote:Italian for me.

Do you have a specific reason? I feel like it's just a cheap move to target the f7 pawn

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Re: Chess

Postby Chemist1422 » Sat Aug 04, 2018 10:28 am

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Chemist1422 wrote:Italian for me.

Do you have a specific reason? I feel like it's just a cheap move to target the f7 pawn

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Re: Chess

Postby lemonader666 » Sat Aug 04, 2018 10:28 am

Chemist1422 wrote:
lemonader666 wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:Italian for me.

Do you have a specific reason? I feel like it's just a cheap move to target the f7 pawn

No, it's just the one I'm best with.

Well then, do you usually try to get the f7 pawn?

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Re: Chess

Postby spelerthomas » Mon Aug 13, 2018 8:48 am

I play the italian too. You should try different openings, and find the ones you feel most comfortable with. I know some theory about the italian, because I've played it a lot. My dutch rating is 1650 elo, which is club level. To be fair, a lot of my opponents in our chess club play d4. E4 has a much more attacking opening style, d4 is more positional. My advice is, if you like attacking, try e4 openings. If you like positional play, try d4 openings.

Playing 3 Bc4 isn't just about attacking the f7 pawn. It's about attacking the kingside as a whole. f7 and f2 are the weakest pawns in the starting position, because it is defended the least amount (only by the king) and is very close to the king.

Moving the f7 pawn in the opening is usually not a good idea. Most importantly because it weakens the kingside. The e8-h5 is now open and it leaves vulnerability. For example, playing the f2 pawn is one of the moves in the shortest game possible: 1f3 e5 2g4 Qh4 checkmate. Also, moving the f pawn only one square during the opening phase, makes your knight harder to develop. The knight on g8 natural square is f6, but it's not possible if its occupied by one of your pawns. The f7 pawn is also a key square in the scholar's mate, which you can fool a lot of beginner's with, but it's not very usefull against players that know how beyond the basics in chess.

Also, after 3Bc4, there is some room to play either ng5, which is the fried liver attack (look it up it's a very cool attack) or simply playing d4 to claim more space. if 3Bc4 Bc5 I like to continue with the evans gambit playing 4b4 which will result in a great attack on the kingside (the queen will join soonly) and it can lead to a very short game if black doesn't play perfect.

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Re: Chess

Postby lemonader666 » Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:10 am

Thanks, I guess?

Also, what's the best move for black after 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 Nf6 4. Bxc6 dxc6 5. Nxe5 ?

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