Debate Thread

[oliy]

Not a chance.

That's not how this works.
Also, it seems pretty balanced, especially considering other roles in the game *looks at Disguiser and Veteran*

[NDM]

Vamps

Pros

Soft cap not to many vamps at once
Hidden until one dies
Conversion role
New alignment

Cons

Recharge time

[orangeandblack5]

But conversions and Neutral Chaos (the new alignment) should be Cons, not Pros.

[NDM]

In my eyes they are new and good.

[orangeandblack5]

New yes; good no.

Go play a couple EpicMafia games with Cultists and then come back to the discussion. You'll swap sides.

[oliy]

New yes; good no.

Go play a couple EpicMafia games with Cultists and then come back to the discussion. You'll swap sides.

Not the same role...

BTW I'll add you to the teams.

[orangeandblack5]

Correct. The Vampire as BMG has it is whimpy in comparison. However, it is by no means balanced because it's not powerful. And buffing it would be a TERRIBLE idea.

[oliy]

Admins, can we get some win rates in here?
Preferably All-Any?
Or Vampire compared to Anys in ranked which were NK
I think that's too complex, who wants to do some tests with me?

[NDM]

I summon the all mighty, ninja, shapesifter to come tell us the win rates of the Vamp.

If this works then me and oliy auto win

[oliy]

I summon the all mighty, ninja, shapesifter to come tell us the win rates of the Vamp.

If this works then me and oliy auto win

In what?
Custom hosts don't know balance
All Any is Imbalanced
Rainbow has nobody to bite
Ranked has no room.

[NDM]

I summon the all mighty, ninja, shapesifter to come tell us the win rates of the Vamp.

If this works then me and oliy auto win

In what?
Custom hosts don't know balance
All Any is Imbalanced
Rainbow has nobody to bite
Ranked has no room.

In them all. I want to see what all of the rates that has been achieved so far.

[orangeandblack5]

Vampires should ideally be winning less than 10% of the time.

[oliy]

Vampires should ideally be winning less than 10% of the time.

No duh, it's a NK

[orangeandblack5]

Actually it's a NC, but it SHOULD be a NK.

[oliy]

Well I forgot about this...

Are Vampires Balanced?

Team Yes:
Spoiler: Oliy
NDM

Team No:
Spoiler: cmitc1
Murat
Orange

Chubby, join whatever you want soon.
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Vote for Team Balanced

[cmitc1]

Well I forgot about this...

Are Vampires Balanced?

Team Yes:
Spoiler: Oliy
NDM

Team No:
Spoiler: cmitc1
Murat
Orange

Chubby, join whatever you want soon.
PMs going out now!
The debate ends in exactly 7 days.
Ready, set, debate!

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Vote for Team not Balanced

Ok oliy, , /vote not balenced

[oliy]

4 hours remain. Place your votes now!

[cmitc1]

oliy, your going to have a hard time counting all these votes

[orangeandblack5]

I think we have a pretty decisive victory here.

Total Votes: 14
Balanced - 3 votes, 21%
Imbalanced - 11 votes, 79%

8 out of 10 people believe that Vampires are imbalanced confirmed.

[oliy]

Okay, I'm reviving this.
Topic: Should Town of Salem mobile games be longer than normal?
Join with teams Longer, Shorter, or Unaffiliated.

[GaaraOfDaFunk]

All hail the thread retributionist

/join
Preferably longer days

[dota2reporter]

Longer

[orangeandblack5]

Longer plz

[ICECLIMBERS]

/join shorter

[NDM]

/join shorter.