Forger, BMer and Disguiser to counter TPLO (allany/custom)

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Forger, BMer and Disguiser to counter TPLO (allany/custom)

Postby LOLturbez » Sun Nov 01, 2020 2:21 am

Ok for this to work, you need three RM roles so sadly this won't work in Ranked / Practice.
What you need: GF or Mafioso, Forger, Disguiser, Blackmailer. and a Jailor calling TPLO

Kill a random person and Forge that person as Jailor.
Blackmail the real jailor and disguise the BMer so LO won't see them visit

Town will definitely know that the d1 Jailor was lying and he can't defend himself since he got Blackmailed.
If he had a Lookout on him, he won't see the Blackmailer, maybe even accuse some TP or escort as BMer.
With that, town might hang the real jailor

Also the only problem with this? Spies. They'll see the double MV on the forged person
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Re: Forger, BMer and Disguiser to counter TPLO (allany/custo

Postby Brilliand » Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:58 am

Use the Disguiser to disguise the Forger, not the Blackmailer. That way, the Spy won't see a double visit.

Disguising the Blackmailer isn't really needed, since he'll be seen as part of a swarm of visitors, and odds are he won't be lynched first or even second.

Biggest flaw I see is that the forged will on the Mafia kill needs to list who was jailed, or else the jailed person will probably defend the real Jailor.
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Re: Forger, BMer and Disguiser to counter TPLO (allany/custo

Postby karakterinisikeyim » Sat Jan 02, 2021 4:40 am

It can work in Ranked if there is no Lookout, but you can't be sure if there is a lookout n1 so you probably do this strategy after TI's have claimed d2. But as Brilliand said, you must need to know the two people that were jailed and their claim in order to make it seem more realistic. It can still work, you can go with forgot-to-write-in-will jailor.
Biggest flaw I see is a jailor always jails the false jailor claim so people might ask why they didn't jail the fake jailor.
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Re: Forger, BMer and Disguiser to counter TPLO (allany/custo

Postby OreCreeper » Sat Jan 02, 2021 10:59 am

You just need a forger and disguiser in ranked + spy (although this probably wont work with smart townies). You can just disguise the forger so that the spy will probably think that there is no forger and dumb townies might not realize that the forger was disguised, and lynch the real jailor. At which point the town will probably realize that the forger was disguised but it's probably too late anyways since if mafia kills, it would be 6v6 with no jailor.
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Re: Forger, BMer and Disguiser to counter TPLO (allany/custo

Postby PatrykSzczescie » Sat Feb 06, 2021 8:14 pm

You can also use BMer/disguiser combo to disguise BMer who blackmails the jailor - with LO outing reports you'll usually end up winning as LO will contains non-mafia members so town will only mislynch trying to find the BMer in the will. Smart spy may reveal BMer but town will usually think the spy bugging is actually BMer blackmailing.
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Re: Forger, BMer and Disguiser to counter TPLO (allany/custo

Postby syjfwbaobfwl » Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:16 pm

How to counter this strat 100 reliably: dont claim jailor d1

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Once a bmer tried to make the "cc jailor and blackmail them to get them lynched" but I didnt claim and jailed them
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Re: Forger, BMer and Disguiser to counter TPLO (allany/custo

Postby OreCreeper » Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:11 pm

syjfwbaobfwl wrote:How to counter this strat 100 reliably: dont claim jailor d1

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Once a bmer tried to make the "cc jailor and blackmail them to get them lynched" but I didnt claim and jailed them

Lmao that's a terrible strategy without a disguiser. All it'll probably do is confirm the real jailor as non-mafia to the spy. Also, only idiots cc a fake jailor claim d1, all that's gonna do is increase your chances of getting yourself killed, as most TPs/LOs will visit the first claim, and mafia can just attack you now that you're revealed and exposed.
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Re: Forger, BMer and Disguiser to counter TPLO (allany/custo

Postby cob709 » Wed Feb 10, 2021 11:49 pm

OreCreeper wrote:
syjfwbaobfwl wrote:How to counter this strat 100 reliably: dont claim jailor d1

Ez


Once a bmer tried to make the "cc jailor and blackmail them to get them lynched" but I didnt claim and jailed them

Lmao that's a terrible strategy without a disguiser. All it'll probably do is confirm the real jailor as non-mafia to the spy. Also, only idiots cc a fake jailor claim d1, all that's gonna do is increase your chances of getting yourself killed, as most TPs/LOs will visit the first claim, and mafia can just attack you now that you're revealed and exposed.

(ranked practice) i used to do this meta gaming strategy where i say that i use jailor scrolls pre-game, then i claim jailor before anyone else does, and when jailor CCs, I snipe jailor and try to play it off or something

Stopped doing it though because i dont like being lynched d2. probs better to just go for a regular mislynch
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