Guaranteed Town Win in 2v1s

[OreCreeper]

There's a very simple strat that guarantees a town win in every 2v1. Basically, if there is uncertainty between two suspicious town members in a 2v1, just vote up any one of them up, before asking the other suspicious person to leave the game. If they do, you just guilty the one that's on the stand. If the other player is evil, they would most likely not want to leave, and this wouldn't be the case if they were a Townie (I've seen townies eager to leave just so the NE loses the game, so it's not a stretch to say this is almost always true). So if they refuse to leave, you just inno and vote up the other person since they're now confirmed evil. Either way, this is a guaranteed town win.

[ScarfVendetta]

If you leave the game, you receive a loss, even if your team wins. There is no incentive for a townie to leave the game. It's also against the rules to leave a game while alive.

If you really expect a townie to leave the game, receive a loss, then get their account suspended, you're mistaken.

[CrimsonKatana]

This strat is a bruh moment

[Savagepeyton]

Hopefully this thread was posted as a joke. It would be concerning if someone who has been playing since 2017 didn't know that:
A. Leaving while alive is bannable, regardless of game scenario.
B. If you leave, whether you are living or dead at the time, it counts as an automatic loss for your records, even if your faction ends up winning the game.

[kyuss420]

There's a very simple strat that guarantees a town win in every 2v1. Basically, if there is uncertainty between two suspicious town members in a 2v1, just vote up any one of them up, before asking the other suspicious person to leave the game. If they do, you just guilty the one that's on the stand. If the other player is evil, they would most likely not want to leave, and this wouldn't be the case if they were a Townie (I've seen townies eager to leave just so the NE loses the game, so it's not a stretch to say this is almost always true). So if they refuse to leave, you just inno and vote up the other person since they're now confirmed evil. Either way, this is a guaranteed town win.

So what do you do when its YOU that is the suspicious townie and on trial in the 2v1???

In you scenario, i would likely inno whoever is on trial, and vote the guy who asked me to leave.

[OreCreeper]

If you leave the game, you receive a loss, even if your team wins. There is no incentive for a townie to leave the game. It's also against the rules to leave a game while alive.

If you really expect a townie to leave the game, receive a loss, then get their account suspended, you're mistaken.

Bruh you've never played ranked before, the townies there will happily leave while alive so the mafia can't give the NE a win. Mafia in TT is willing to leave to start the countdown. So there's no reason why townies wouldn't leave to give town a win.

[ScarfVendetta]

Bruh you've never played ranked before, the townies there will happily leave while alive so the mafia can't give the NE a win. Mafia in TT is willing to leave to start the countdown. So there's no reason why townies wouldn't leave to give town a win.

If you leave while alive during a Ranked game, you lose the maximum amount of ELO possible for your bracket (-30 for Diamond and below, -15 for Masters). Even if you were about to lose anyway, you'd likely be tripling your own ELO loss. The vast majority of the playerbase are unwilling to both break the rules and throw away their hard-earned ELO just to spite another player.

The Town Traitor meta is in a pretty terrible state right now, I will grant you that. it's common for players to leave in order to activate the countdown. However, these players are still guaranteeing themselves a loss in the process (even if it does help their team) so it cannot be considered the optimal play. It's also still against the rules to do so. These factors are why rational players don't follow this 'meta'.


Neither of these examples validate your "strategy". You will still encounter the sane majority of players that won't gamethrow for you.

[EqsyLootz]

If you leave the game, you receive a loss, even if your team wins. There is no incentive for a townie to leave the game. It's also against the rules to leave a game while alive.

If you really expect a townie to leave the game, receive a loss, then get their account suspended, you're mistaken.

Bruh you've never played ranked before, the townies there will happily leave while alive so the mafia can't give the NE a win. Mafia in TT is willing to leave to start the countdown. So there's no reason why townies wouldn't leave to give town a win.

Obviously you are one of those players who fail to get to gold elo since you leave. Obviously you've never played ranked as townies will never leave to lose -30 elo.

[Brilliand]

Obviously you are one of those players who fail to get to gold elo since you leave. Obviously you've never played ranked as townies will never leave to lose -30 elo.

If you're going to say "obviously", you should guess one thing, not accuse him of two different things that contradict each other.

[EqsyLootz]

Obviously you are one of those players who fail to get to gold elo since you leave. Obviously you've never played ranked as townies will never leave to lose -30 elo.

If you're going to say "obviously", you should guess one thing, not accuse him of two different things that contradict each other.

Shut lmao. I realized xD

[PatrykSzczescie]

This strat is good for TT games where mafia leaves the game because the only mafia beside TT is jailed/roleblocked. I feel like town is justified to use the same "trick".

[TheFluffyWaffleV2]

Just a side note, but people do realize that if you are playing anything other than Ranked, leaving the game before it ends doesn’t count as a loss, right?.

Not that I know from experience
Or that my W/L is 112 - 2

[dolphina]

Just a side note, but people do realize that if you are playing anything other than Ranked, leaving the game before it ends doesn’t count as a loss, right?.

Not that I know from experience
Or that my W/L is 112 - 2

You lose a bunch of elo though

[TheFluffyWaffleV2]

You lose a bunch of elo though

anything other than Ranked

[dolphina]

You lose a bunch of elo though

anything other than Ranked

I'm dumb

[XavierStronome]

bad joke post, OP

[ICECLIMBERS]

Afraid somebody may kill you? Just kill yourself first.

[CheezePie]

Afraid somebody may kill you? Just kill yourself first.

tried and tested

[KAKERMAN23]

this is actually stupid. not only does leaving mean that you dont get a win even if your team won after you left, but it's also reportable to leave while alive in many situations. surely this is a joke

[PatrykSzczescie]

But it's practically being used in TT games to help the faction win, whether you want it or not.

[KAKERMAN23]

that doesn't make it any better. if anything, it's kinda sad that people are willing to throw away wins like that. even if you leaving would help your faction win, you shouldn't leave, since the outcome of the game won't matter if you leave

[OreCreeper]

that doesn't make it any better. if anything, it's kinda sad that people are willing to throw away wins like that. even if you leaving would help your faction win, you shouldn't leave, since the outcome of the game won't matter if you leave

Honestly yeah but leaving as last mafia in TT is pretty much meta, and this can be one as well. Maybe there should be a feature that lets you commit suicide without having to leave the game (obviously, doing it for no reason would be punishable for gamethrowing, but if it's for strategic purposes its not).

[TheFluffyWaffleV2]

that doesn't make it any better. if anything, it's kinda sad that people are willing to throw away wins like that. even if you leaving would help your faction win, you shouldn't leave, since the outcome of the game won't matter if you leave

Honestly yeah but leaving as last mafia in TT is pretty much meta, and this can be one as well. Maybe there should be a feature that lets you commit suicide without having to leave the game (obviously, doing it for no reason would be punishable for gamethrowing, but if it's for strategic purposes its not).

Suicide ability

ToL time

[KAKERMAN23]

the suicide thing has its own upsides and downsides, but regardless, leaving while alive is never strategic

[PatrykSzczescie]

Unless you play TT gamemode, then leaving while alive is strategic for both sides. It's not as much strategic in other games, though there might be scenarios, it's more like improvisation rather than strategy.