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Gravedigger 2.0

Postby SlightlyOfficiant » Sun Apr 29, 2018 8:17 am

Gravedigger 2.0

-Unique Role-

Alignment: Neutral Killing
Abilities:
- During the night you can choose to Plant 2 Graves for 2 Players, they will both be attacked the next night and will be put in their grave and cleaned. (Clean Players come up as “Engraved”)

Attributes:
- Your target will be aware a gravedigger planted a Grave in their backyard


Stats:
Attack: Basic
Defense: Basic
Priority: 3rd

Goal:
Defeat everyone who would oppose you.

Win Condition
You must kill the Mafia
You must kill Serial Killers
You must kill Arsonists
You must kill Town
You must kill Werewolf
You win with the Gravedigger (yourself)
You win with Survivors
You win with Witches
You may spare anyone else.

Sheriff: Your target is a Gravedigger!
Invest: Lookout, Forger, Witch or Gravedigger
Consitch: Your target digs for peoples deaths, They must be a Gravedigger!


Extra:
Spoiler: Messages:
He was Buried by a Gravedigger,
his body was Engraved.
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Re: Gravedigger 2.0

Postby fwogcarf » Sun Apr 29, 2018 12:11 pm

No, no, no, no ,no. Can I say no a couple more times? What is this 2 KPN ability? It can clean as well? Extremely OP

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Re: Gravedigger 2.0

Postby SlightlyOfficiant » Sun Apr 29, 2018 2:36 pm

fwogcarf wrote:No, no, no, no ,no. Can I say no a couple more times? What is this 2 KPN ability? It can clean as well? Extremely OP

/absolutleynosupport


Did you not read? It has a delay like Poisoner.
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Re: Gravedigger 2.0

Postby Jackparrot » Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:32 am

This role is interesting, however I need to know two things

1. Is this unique?

1. Invest results?
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Re: Gravedigger 2.0

Postby FreezingFire127 » Mon Apr 30, 2018 1:49 pm

Have you ever heard of editing?
Why make a new thread
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Re: Gravedigger 2.0

Postby SlightlyOfficiant » Mon Apr 30, 2018 5:02 pm

Jackparrot wrote:This role is interesting, however I need to know two things

1. Is this unique? Not sure, do you think it should be?

1. Invest results?
It probably will be in the same result as Transporter or Investigator
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Re: Gravedigger 2.0

Postby ManateeDude » Mon Apr 30, 2018 5:39 pm

SlightlyOfficiant wrote:
fwogcarf wrote:No, no, no, no ,no. Can I say no a couple more times? What is this 2 KPN ability? It can clean as well? Extremely OP

/absolutleynosupport


Did you not read? It has a delay like Poisoner.


So... A one night delay makes up for 2 KPN??? WTF???
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Re: Gravedigger 2.0

Postby SlightlyOfficiant » Mon Apr 30, 2018 8:50 pm

ManateeDude wrote:
SlightlyOfficiant wrote:
fwogcarf wrote:No, no, no, no ,no. Can I say no a couple more times? What is this 2 KPN ability? It can clean as well? Extremely OP

/absolutleynosupport


Did you not read? It has a delay like Poisoner.


So... A one night delay makes up for 2 KPN??? WTF???


Yes because it would be even with the Serial Killer.
Serial Killer attacks 1 time per night without a delay.
This role attacks 2 Times per night with a 1 night delay.
This role could also get hurt if one of their targets gets lynched the next day.
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Re: Gravedigger 2.0

Postby ManateeDude » Mon Apr 30, 2018 8:56 pm

SlightlyOfficiant wrote:
ManateeDude wrote:
SlightlyOfficiant wrote:
fwogcarf wrote:No, no, no, no ,no. Can I say no a couple more times? What is this 2 KPN ability? It can clean as well? Extremely OP

/absolutleynosupport


Did you not read? It has a delay like Poisoner.


So... A one night delay makes up for 2 KPN??? WTF???


Yes because it would be even with the Serial Killer.
Serial Killer attacks 1 time per night without a delay.
This role attacks 2 Times per night with a 1 night delay.
This role could also get hurt if one of their targets gets lynched the next day.

No it doesnt, it still has a clean kill, this role is ridiculously OP.

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Re: Gravedigger 2.0

Postby Jackparrot » Tue May 01, 2018 6:44 am

SlightlyOfficiant wrote:
Jackparrot wrote:This role is interesting, however I need to know two things

1. Is this unique? Not sure, do you think it should be?

1. Invest results?
It probably will be in the same result as Transporter or Investigator


Meh think it should be, it could replace werewolf. However, I think that with some improvements, werewolf could be balenced. So either make it different from other NKs or make this a WW replacement. Maybe put it in the LO/FORG/witch results?
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Re: Gravedigger 2.0

Postby SlightlyOfficiant » Tue May 01, 2018 7:32 am

ManateeDude wrote:
SlightlyOfficiant wrote:
ManateeDude wrote:
SlightlyOfficiant wrote:
fwogcarf wrote:No, no, no, no ,no. Can I say no a couple more times? What is this 2 KPN ability? It can clean as well? Extremely OP

/absolutleynosupport


Did you not read? It has a delay like Poisoner.


So... A one night delay makes up for 2 KPN??? WTF???


Yes because it would be even with the Serial Killer.
Serial Killer attacks 1 time per night without a delay.
This role attacks 2 Times per night with a 1 night delay.
This role could also get hurt if one of their targets gets lynched the next day.

No it doesnt, it still has a clean kill, this role is ridiculously OP.

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The Cleans to make up for its delay.
Also chances are 1 of the 2 targets you picked will die.


Look because I don't think you understand how this would work in a game ill give you an example of this and the SK

SK: N1: Stabs Baron N2: Stabs Carly N3: Stabs Morgan N4: Stabs May
Gravedigger N1: Kills No One N2: Kills and Cleans two people N3: Kills and cleans one person N4: Kills and Cleans no one.
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Re: Gravedigger 2.0

Postby ManateeDude » Tue May 01, 2018 9:38 am

Jackparrot wrote:
SlightlyOfficiant wrote:
Jackparrot wrote:This role is interesting, however I need to know two things

1. Is this unique? Not sure, do you think it should be?

1. Invest results?
It probably will be in the same result as Transporter or Investigator


Meh think it should be, it could replace werewolf. However, I think that with some improvements, werewolf could be balenced. So either make it different from other NKs or make this a WW replacement. Maybe put it in the LO/FORG/witch results?


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Re: Gravedigger 2.0

Postby SlightlyOfficiant » Tue May 01, 2018 10:31 am

ManateeDude wrote:
Jackparrot wrote:
SlightlyOfficiant wrote:
Jackparrot wrote:This role is interesting, however I need to know two things

1. Is this unique? Not sure, do you think it should be?

1. Invest results?
It probably will be in the same result as Transporter or Investigator


Meh think it should be, it could replace werewolf. However, I think that with some improvements, werewolf could be balenced. So either make it different from other NKs or make this a WW replacement. Maybe put it in the LO/FORG/witch results?


Ewwwwwwwwwwwww.


You still refuse to reply to my previous comment....
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Re: Gravedigger 2.0

Postby ManateeDude » Tue May 01, 2018 1:42 pm

SlightlyOfficiant wrote:
ManateeDude wrote:
SlightlyOfficiant wrote:
ManateeDude wrote:
SlightlyOfficiant wrote:
fwogcarf wrote:No, no, no, no ,no. Can I say no a couple more times? What is this 2 KPN ability? It can clean as well? Extremely OP

/absolutleynosupport


Did you not read? It has a delay like Poisoner.


So... A one night delay makes up for 2 KPN??? WTF???


Yes because it would be even with the Serial Killer.
Serial Killer attacks 1 time per night without a delay.
This role attacks 2 Times per night with a 1 night delay.
This role could also get hurt if one of their targets gets lynched the next day.

No it doesnt, it still has a clean kill, this role is ridiculously OP.

/nosupportuntiloverhauled



The Cleans to make up for its delay.
Also chances are 1 of the 2 targets you picked will die.


Look because I don't think you understand how this would work in a game ill give you an example of this and the SK

SK: N1: Stabs Baron N2: Stabs Carly N3: Stabs Morgan N4: Stabs May
Gravedigger N1: Kills No One N2: Kills and Cleans two people N3: Kills and cleans one person N4: Kills and Cleans no one.


In ranked there is one NK. The fact that it takes one night for 2 KPN the next and a clean kill is ridiculously OP.
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Re: Gravedigger 2.0

Postby AtaMem » Tue May 01, 2018 4:18 pm

Honestly it should be only one kill and be able to know what role it was 2 kils seems OP
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Re: Gravedigger 2.0

Postby EpicToastAnims » Tue May 01, 2018 4:29 pm

Okay, two things about this. Here's a list of all of the things about this role that makes it SO OP LIKE WTF.
- 2 KPN
- Cleaning kills.
- Powerful attacks.

I realize there's a delay, but it still kills 2 people every night. In fact, it's like a Vigilante with unlimited bullets, 2 kills per night, cleaning powerful attacks. I'm just glad it doesn't have Astral Rampage attacks. It's like vigilante because it doesn't kill on the first night, but it kills basically every night after that. So. It sucks. Change it to:
- Kills on full moons? Every other night?

hope that helps.
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Re: Gravedigger 2.0

Postby fwogcarf » Tue May 01, 2018 4:37 pm

EpicToastAnims wrote:Okay, two things about this. Here's a list of all of the things about this role that makes it SO OP LIKE WTF.
- 2 KPN
- Cleaning kills.
- Powerful attacks.

I realize there's a delay, but it still kills 2 people every night. In fact, it's like a Vigilante with unlimited bullets, 2 kills per night, cleaning powerful attacks. I'm just glad it doesn't have Astral Rampage attacks. It's like vigilante because it doesn't kill on the first night, but it kills basically every night after that. So. It sucks. Change it to:
- Kills on full moons? Every other night?

hope that helps.

Adds Astral Rampage attacks
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Re: Gravedigger 2.0

Postby SlightlyOfficiant » Tue May 01, 2018 8:49 pm

This role is a Neutral Killing Poisoner. Poisoner is known as the weakest Coven role and your calling this OP?
I mean It can get 2 KPN, Big Whop!
It will most likly only get 1 kill anyways.
If I only gave it only 1 KPN it would be UP
The cleaning helps since it’s attacks is always a delay.
However you guys got me thinking, I might mix it up a bit.
On Even Nights it’s 1 Kills And On Odd Nights it’s 2.

If you believe that will solve the issue.

You also can’t say it’s an OP SK because Butcher is an OP SK.
Slaughterer is An OP SK and so is Electrian.

So don’t say you don’t like a role until you looked at the facts.

I will remove the powerful attack since that does make it very good.
But I am not removing anything else or it wouldn’t be a role.
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Re: Gravedigger 2.0

Postby Jackparrot » Wed May 02, 2018 6:21 am

EpicToastAnims wrote:Okay, two things about this. Here's a list of all of the things about this role that makes it SO OP LIKE WTF.
- 2 KPN
- Cleaning kills.
- Powerful attacks.

I realize there's a delay, but it still kills 2 people every night. In fact, it's like a Vigilante with unlimited bullets, 2 kills per night, cleaning powerful attacks. I'm just glad it doesn't have Astral Rampage attacks. It's like vigilante because it doesn't kill on the first night, but it kills basically every night after that. So. It sucks. Change it to:
- Kills on full moons? Every other night?

hope that helps.


Do see: Werewolf
Reason: this is basically a werewolf, except for the fact that it cleans aswell.
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Re: Gravedigger 2.0

Postby SlightlyOfficiant » Wed May 02, 2018 8:55 am

Jackparrot wrote:
EpicToastAnims wrote:Okay, two things about this. Here's a list of all of the things about this role that makes it SO OP LIKE WTF.
- 2 KPN
- Cleaning kills.
- Powerful attacks.

I realize there's a delay, but it still kills 2 people every night. In fact, it's like a Vigilante with unlimited bullets, 2 kills per night, cleaning powerful attacks. I'm just glad it doesn't have Astral Rampage attacks. It's like vigilante because it doesn't kill on the first night, but it kills basically every night after that. So. It sucks. Change it to:
- Kills on full moons? Every other night?

hope that helps.


Do see: Werewolf
Reason: this is basically a werewolf, except for the fact that it cleans aswell.


Please explain how this is Werewolf, This more like Poisoner then anything.

Stop saying stuff just for the reason of saying it.

Tell the truth or STFU.
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Re: Gravedigger 2.0

Postby Jackparrot » Wed May 02, 2018 2:01 pm

SlightlyOfficiant wrote:
Jackparrot wrote:
EpicToastAnims wrote:Okay, two things about this. Here's a list of all of the things about this role that makes it SO OP LIKE WTF.
- 2 KPN
- Cleaning kills.
- Powerful attacks.

I realize there's a delay, but it still kills 2 people every night. In fact, it's like a Vigilante with unlimited bullets, 2 kills per night, cleaning powerful attacks. I'm just glad it doesn't have Astral Rampage attacks. It's like vigilante because it doesn't kill on the first night, but it kills basically every night after that. So. It sucks. Change it to:
- Kills on full moons? Every other night?

hope that helps.


Do see: Werewolf
Reason: this is basically a werewolf, except for the fact that it cleans aswell.


Please explain how this is Werewolf, This more like Poisoner then anything.

Stop saying stuff just for the reason of saying it.

Tell the truth or STFU.


I didnt realize it didnt have powerful attack anymore. It is not like poisoner as poisoner gets .5 KPN where as this role gets 1 kpn, additionaly you said that poisoner was the weakest coven role, that is incorrect, HM/medusa are much weaker. Still, WW
-Rampages (KPN can vary, but WW can easily get 2 Kills)
-attacks every two nigts
-has powerful attack (yes i know you changed it to baisc)

Gravedigger
- gets two kills
-attacks every two nights
- originally had powerful attack.


Poisoner is a delayed killing role which can kill one player
This is an OP poisoner if anything

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Re: Gravedigger 2.0

Postby MaskedPokerFace » Wed May 02, 2018 3:57 pm

if i didnt misunderstand it you are attacking doublr target? how will they survive? is not a bit OP? Double kill -basic attacks so do you want to add self resurrection? :D
if you tell me how will targets survive?
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Re: Gravedigger 2.0

Postby SlightlyOfficiant » Thu May 03, 2018 11:33 am

MaskedPokerFace wrote:if i didnt misunderstand it you are attacking doublr target? how will they survive? is not a bit OP? Double kill -basic attacks so do you want to add self resurrection? :D
if you tell me how will targets survive?


its a delay kill like Poisoner and it is NOT a rampage
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Re: Gravedigger 2.0

Postby MaskedPokerFace » Thu May 03, 2018 12:24 pm

SlightlyOfficiant wrote:
MaskedPokerFace wrote:if i didnt misunderstand it you are attacking doublr target? how will they survive? is not a bit OP? Double kill -basic attacks so do you want to add self resurrection? :D
if you tell me how will targets survive?


its a delay kill like Poisoner and it is NOT a rampage

So what thats for?
During the night you can choose to Plant 2 Graves for 2 Players, they will both be attacked the next night and will be put in their grave and cleaned

it means will 2 of them die delayed attacks?
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Re: Gravedigger 2.0

Postby SlightlyOfficiant » Thu May 03, 2018 4:15 pm

Night 1 Gravedigger choses Player A and Player B to bury.
They will know the gravedigger planted a grave for them.
Night 2 Gravedigger Choses Player C and Player D. Player B and Player A dies and gets cleaned.
Day 3 Player C is lynched.
Night 3 Gravedigger choses Player E and Player F. Player D dies and gets cleaned
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