Role: Monk (True's version)

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Role: Monk (True's version)

Postby TrueGuardian32 » Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:51 am

Role: Monk
Alignment: Town Investigative
Ability: Divine one of the roles on the role list each night
Attributes: Witch Immune
Invest Results: Medium Janitor Retributionist Monk
No Defense No Attack

Notes: If there are no RANDOM role's this role can't be received.
Meaning it must have a
TK RT Or RM and etc

Divining let's you find out a role from the ROLE LIST. Not actual players.

Here's a normal Will

RT 1 = Escort
RT 2 = Medium

or

TI 1 = Monk(Oh look you found yourself)
TI 2 = Sheriff

Original Version That was made by SlashedChaynz
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Re: Role: Monk (True's version)

Postby TrueGuardian32 » Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:52 am

Decided to post my version of the role. I was thinking about instead of giving it the specific role it gives the same results that a investigator would get, not certain though.
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Re: Role: Monk (True's version)

Postby SlashedChaynz » Fri Nov 03, 2017 2:46 pm

Goose, A moderator says you must give me credit for the origional idea in this format: "DISCLAIMER: Copied from Slashed_Chaynz Monk found here [link] at the top"
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Re: Role: Monk (True's version)

Postby Mystoc » Fri Nov 03, 2017 4:19 pm

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Re: Role: Monk (True's version)

Postby Shilster » Sat Nov 04, 2017 3:28 am

True you got a strike because of copyright infringement, no?
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Re: Role: Monk (True's version)

Postby TrueGuardian32 » Sat Nov 04, 2017 8:20 am

Shilster wrote:True you got a strike because of copyright infringement, no?

I don't think so, I did add a refer-meant to the original idea though.
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Re: Role: Monk (True's version)

Postby Blayzeatron » Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:13 pm

Is this complete RNG?
Giving this three roles like an invest would just make it a far worse invest....


I already made a role similar to this.
viewtopic.php?f=27&t=75240
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Re: Role: Monk (True's version)

Postby TrueGuardian32 » Sat Nov 04, 2017 10:11 pm

Blayzeatron wrote:Is this complete RNG?
Giving this three roles like an invest would just make it a far worse invest....


I already made a role similar to this.
viewtopic.php?f=27&t=75240


I haven't decided to make it based off invest results or not But I think I'm going to make it a guarantee.
It's also prob going to be everynight thing. Without the 2 night limit.

I would prob use it to figure out who the RM are.
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Re: Role: Monk (True's version)

Postby Mystoc » Sat Nov 04, 2017 10:39 pm

i'm not getting most of what you saying with the examples to be honest

will it show doubles?

if there are two vigs in the game can be shown vig again? if you have all ready seen it that would be useful info to know

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the viability of this role is very swingy if you get roles early on and other roles die that aren't the roles you got you greatly limit claim space for evils

like you get town has one escort bodyguard and vig the first nights

but then doc vet and ret dies first 3 nights, you now have 7 town roles that are in the game (you are monk so you know ur own role)

evils can basicly claim very little now

but if you get your first 3 roles as being doc vet and ret while now you have useless info since they just died anyway

you see how swingy this role is to much rng a varaince

also getting what evil roles in the game is relatively useless so its even more rng whether your told a town role or an evil role

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cool idea and sounds cool and balanced on the surface but way to swingy and rng like since you have no control over the role you are told

this even more rng the the psychic this role wont work because its rng

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Re: Role: Monk (True's version)

Postby TrueGuardian32 » Sat Nov 04, 2017 11:18 pm

Mystoc wrote:i'm not getting most of what you saying with the examples to be honest

will it show doubles?

if there are two vigs in the game can be shown vig again? if you have all ready seen it that would be useful info to know

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the viability of this role is very swingy if you get roles early on and other roles die that aren't the roles you got you greatly limit claim space for evils

like you get town has one escort bodyguard and vig the first nights

but then doc vet and ret dies first 3 nights, you now have 7 town roles that are in the game (you are monk so you know ur own role)

evils can basicly claim very little now

but if you get your first 3 roles as being doc vet and ret while now you have useless info since they just died anyway

you see how swingy this role is to much rng a varaince

also getting what evil roles in the game is relatively useless so its even more rng whether your told a town role or an evil role

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cool idea and sounds cool and balanced on the surface but way to swingy and rng like since you have no control over the role you are told

this even more rng the the psychic this role wont work because its rng

/probalynosupport


It's super easy to be faked.
You choose from the role list.
You can't choose the same role on the role list.(Meaning you can't click the first RT twice, but you can click the first then the second RT.
Also on the limiting of claimspace, doesn't investigator do the same?
It's also not RNG, you CHOOSE from the Role List. The only place it would be RNG is in All Any.

If you somehow lived till N15 you will know all the roles that are on the role list in All Any.

So It might be swingy in practice, but anti strategies for it will probably come out quickly. Also it doesn't tell you who the role belongs too so yea.
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Re: Role: Monk (True's version)

Postby Mystoc » Sat Nov 04, 2017 11:31 pm

by RT you mean random town?

i'm still not getting it

give a first night example please so you can only click a role once?

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theres more then 15 roles in game though isn't there how would be able to check each ones
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Re: Role: Monk (True's version)

Postby TrueGuardian32 » Sat Nov 04, 2017 11:46 pm

Deodat Lawson claims RT Doctor
Samual Sewall claims RT Medium
Alice Young claims RT Doctor

You decide to look at the 3rd RT you have already looked at the 2 previous RT's and got
Bodyguard
Doctor
After investing the 3rd RT you findout that the 3rd RT is a Doctor.
Meaning both Doctor's are town, the med claim is a lie.

Or maybe in a different situation you claim Monk as Executioner
Your target had claimed and you claimed your Monk and had invested the rolelist and your targets role isn't possible.

Or maybe a mafia game where 4 people claim Monk. Now there has to be liar somewhere in this mix doesn't there.

The Monk role is both usefull and easily faked at the same time. However unlike Psychic it doesn't give a guaranteed evil each time. It's also useful for figuring out who is TP among a mass of TP claims.
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Re: Role: Monk (True's version)

Postby Mystoc » Sat Nov 04, 2017 11:58 pm

how do you know they are RT slot or not i don't get it

ok show me the ui for when you select role

how can you check a role and check RT it makes no sense
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Re: Role: Monk (True's version)

Postby TrueGuardian32 » Sun Nov 05, 2017 12:22 am

Mystoc wrote:how do you know they are RT slot or not i don't get it

ok show me the ui for when you select role

how can you check a role and check RT it makes no sense



On Top left Corner of the screen during the night besides the rolelist there will be icons just like the ones beside the player list for other roles. Roles that are DEFINED won't be an option, (GF Mafioso in Ranked). Also roles in the rolelist that are dead will be removed as well. If the person is cleaned it will not be removed.

Jailor No Box
TI [ ]
TI [ ]
TP [ ]
TS [ ]
TK [ ]
RT [ ]
RT [ ]
RT [ ]
GF No Box
Mafioso No Box
RM [ ]
RM [ ]
NE [ ]
NK [ ]

Heres a example in play,
Jailor No Box
TI [Investigator]
TI [ ]
TP [Bodyguard]
TS [ ]
TK [Veteran]
RT [Vigilante]
RT [ ]
RT [ ]
GF No Box
Mafioso No Box
RM [Consiglere]
RM [Janitor]
NE [Jester]
NK [ ]
The unfilled boxes are either those who aren't dead yet, those who are dead but cleaned, or those who are not checked.
In the example above the Monk has checked the NE and RMs everyone else has died.
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