Medium (Town Killing) Overhaul

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Concerns

Medium should lose their ability after haunting a town member
1
11%
Vigilante is more decisive since it does not have prerequisites to shoot
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22%
Medium should perform a direct attack
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Medium should be Town Support
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22%
Medium should be Town Investigative
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No votes
Other
2
22%
None
2
22%
 
Total votes : 9

Medium (Town Killing) Overhaul

Postby cob709 » Sat Nov 26, 2022 7:45 pm

Medium
Town Killing

Abilities
    Each day, choose a player to curse.
Attributes
    If a majority of dead players vote to haunt your target, they will be dealt an unstoppable attack.
    You will learn what each player votes.
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Re: Medium (Town Killing) Overhaul

Postby Poryg » Sat Nov 26, 2022 9:08 pm

We don't really need another tk, let alone a gimmicky one like this.
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Re: Medium (Town Killing) Overhaul

Postby JacksonVirgo » Sun Nov 27, 2022 5:18 am

Poryg wrote:We don't really need another tk, let alone a gimmicky one like this.


What do we ever really need?
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Re: Medium (Town Killing) Overhaul

Postby WaveAqualei » Sun Nov 27, 2022 9:38 am

Poryg wrote:We don't really need another tk, let alone a gimmicky one like this.

We do need more TKs. But I don't like this one.
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Re: Medium (Town Killing) Overhaul

Postby cob709 » Sun Nov 27, 2022 10:22 am

We need more TKs because vigilante, veteran, and jailor are difficult roles for Mafia to fake claim.
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Re: Medium (Town Killing) Overhaul

Postby WaveAqualei » Sun Nov 27, 2022 11:18 am

cob709 wrote:We need more TKs because vigilante, veteran, and jailor are difficult roles for Mafia to fake claim.

That's true but I don't like this one.
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Re: Medium (Town Killing) Overhaul

Postby mygma » Sun Nov 27, 2022 1:40 pm

Imo Medium is a pretty underrated role already and doesn't need many changes. Making it a TK doesn't really make sense and letting evils vote on whether or not you deal an unstoppable attack to somebody is not gonna end up well.
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Re: Medium (Town Killing) Overhaul

Postby cob709 » Sun Nov 27, 2022 4:07 pm

Medium is problematic because its skill floor is too low, especially since copying and pasting dead chat is easy
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Re: Medium (Town Killing) Overhaul

Postby cheeseandtomatos » Sun Nov 27, 2022 10:27 pm

change this so that medium is a jester of sorts. if medium dies n1, they get to choose someone to haunt, because medium's curse.

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Re: Medium (Town Killing) Overhaul

Postby JacksonVirgo » Mon Nov 28, 2022 9:53 am

cob709 wrote:We need more TKs because vigilante, veteran, and jailor are difficult roles for Mafia to fake claim.

Any killing role that's reliable are difficult for Mafia to claim.
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Re: Medium (Town Killing) Overhaul

Postby DragoWhooves » Mon Nov 28, 2022 11:33 am

cheeseandtomatos wrote:change this so that medium is a jester of sorts. if medium dies n1, they get to choose someone to haunt, because medium's curse.

/j

Hmmm....
How about this, if you are killed N1 (discounting pirate or witched jailor), one of the following options happens
  • When you seance you redirect any attacks to your killer (maybe even buff the attack up one level?)
  • When you seance, if your killer tries to kill your target they are instead dealt a Powerful attack
  • If you seance your killer you roleblock them
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Re: Medium (Town Killing) Overhaul

Postby alex1234321 » Tue Nov 29, 2022 10:05 am

Wow I actually like this idea. It will be much harder to confirm compared to current Medium, but it is possible a highly contrived meta could evolve of something like "if there's another Medium then have the townie with the highest number vote against cursing," but it wouldn't be completely foolproof since that player might actually believe the cursed target is good. If something like this becomes an issue then it could easily be fixed by not notifying the Medium of what each player votes.

Overall I really like the role. It's useful, gives the dead a voice, and is hard to confirm.
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