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Re: MC-TE 1 WINNER: BRVR (questions on board)

Postby Cenvil » Thu Sep 15, 2016 4:32 am

Jabichuelas wrote:
Cenvil wrote:What you think, how could I improve the game? I don't know. Maybe with more people I can think something.


Plans for next edition.
-restrict invalid moves, if you send invalid move, you will waste your move at the phase. (In action phase your priority would be over the players who did not send a move, but this wont be on the priority list) Or you could PM them telling that was an invalid action and add a time limit for the actions, so they can do a valid one.


I cant make more players. (NPCs are not likely an option, although I can try give it a go if you want) Advertise it if you want.

Okay from now the first invalid move will be replied and giving 24h to change your choice after I PM you. If you fail change it or change for an other invalid move, it will be considering as an invalid move. (I made this on TE too)

thanks for your feedback (your signup is now accepted) i will update after school
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Re: MC-TE 1 WINNER: BRVR TE 2 signup

Postby Cenvil » Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:27 am

Adding NPCs personality
Stubborn:
Will always go for the lowest/highest possible chair (he deciding at the begin of the game)
He try always the steal of the above named chair
He always vote himself
He always eliminate the opposite side of the chairs he is aiming for.
He never give away any coins.

The Naiv.
He will always do the last thing he hears. If he dont get any info he always go with his highest priority move.
He may vote anyone.
He may give anyone player-coins who ask him. (If he has any)
He says everyone which chairs he has.

The Traitor.
He never do the command he hear.
If this leads to contradict, he does his highest priority move.
He vote anyone who did not bribe him.
He might give away coins, but never the ones with his name.
He give false information (this is a thing between two players too)

The Killer.
He always try to kill someone. (In TE2 there will be no killing move)

The Inspector.
He always try follow someone. He never steal chair.
He try sit on chairs whose owner he know.
He give information for coins.
He votes anyone whose (at least one) chair he know.

The random.
He will go allways with the random choice.
He votes random.
He eliminate random.
He randomly might or might not give coin anyone who ask it.

The Leader
He gives command to one player or Gaia per round.
He bribe anyone for vote.
He eliminate any chair he hear to eliminate (unless its his)

There can be multiples of personalities and at the begin of the game the NPCs personality wont be revealed.

What do you think?
(These might be NPCs personality, but players still can have the same stratrgies)
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Re: MC-TE 1 WINNER: BRVR (questions on board)

Postby Jabichuelas » Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:41 am

Cenvil wrote:I cant make more players. (NPCs are not likely an option, although I can try give it a go if you want) Advertise it if you want.


I mean, we were 2 players. If with more players the game needs a "fix" or something else I would had think of something.

In general, no, I don't have nothing to improve the game.

And I like those NPCs!
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Re: MC-TE 1 WINNER: BRVR TE 2 signup

Postby Cenvil » Thu Sep 15, 2016 9:04 am

I agree we need to have more players to find wrong things in the game, but I cant do much
I will wait til Sunday, and if there is no change in number of players I will try some NPCs.
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Re: MC-TE 1 WINNER: BRVR TE 2 signup(3 days left)

Postby BRVR » Thu Sep 15, 2016 3:21 pm

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Re: MC-TE 1 WINNER: BRVR

Postby Cenvil » Thu Sep 15, 2016 3:46 pm

BRVR wrote:/Join

Would you answer these questions first?
Cenvil wrote:This was unlucky. Moving onwards.

I wont open a new thread, next few game will fit here, if there will be any.

I want a feedback from you two before I open the next signups:

Is it hard to understand the game mechanic?
Was it annoying that I sent possible moves for you when to game goes on? (Although one of you still could send invalid move)
Would you like play it more?
What you think, how could I improve the game?

What do you think about the preparation phase?
-It is good as it is. (2 at first round, 1 in every else)
-Second preparation phase of round 1 is unnecessary.
-all round should have two of it.
-other

Plans for next edition.
-try follow system.
(If you follow someone you will know what the other did, and what was his result) priority is below hide and above sitting (you wont learn if someone hide a chair)

OP rework: change order move list to priority of moves
(Higher priority moves are take place before lower priority moves in every case)
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Re: MC-TE 1 WINNER: BRVR TE 2 signup(3 days left)

Postby BRVR » Thu Sep 15, 2016 3:50 pm

I like it when you send me actions I can do Cuz I'm dumb. And I want you to add NPCs
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Re: MC-TE 1 WINNER: BRVR TE 2 signup(2 days left)

Postby Cenvil » Fri Sep 16, 2016 10:32 am

BRVR wrote:I like it when you send me actions I can do Cuz I'm dumb. And I want you to add NPCs


now your signup is accepted
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Re: MC-TE 1 WINNER: BRVR TE 2 signup(1 day left)

Postby Cenvil » Sat Sep 17, 2016 4:54 am

If no one else join I will reduce the number of chairs for 5 before I try NPCs

(I want to see how endgame can work)
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Re: MC-TE 1 WINNER: BRVR TE 2 signup(1 day left)

Postby Cenvil » Sat Sep 17, 2016 12:05 pm

I was bored: (sry for the grammatical errors, i am bad in writing flavour and I am not english)

You both greet each other and the game as old friens. You two already fought who can sit better.
That time BRVR was glorious thanks to an unlucky accident.
Some persons in the background are saying Jabich made it wrongly when he eliminated the other visible chair. (And maybe they are right)
Can BRVR win again? Or Jabich can take revenge? Or one of them has a winning strategy already?
Or finally we get a third chalengee who beat both of them? (Or at least try)
Lets find out.
Lets begin the
MUSICAL
CHAIRS

test edition 2

about 24h to begin
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Re: MC-TE 1 WINNER: BRVR TE 2 signup(1 day left)

Postby Jabichuelas » Sat Sep 17, 2016 12:21 pm

Cenvil wrote:Some persons in the background are saying Jabich made it wrongly when he eliminated the other visible chair. (And maybe they are right)



I did? :O
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Re: MC-TE 1 WINNER: BRVR

Postby Cenvil » Sat Sep 17, 2016 12:23 pm

Yes you did
Cenvil wrote:Phase-Jabich moves-BRVR moves-chair/knowledge changes
prep1/2-search 7-search random-Jabich obtain chair 7 making it visible-BRVR learn that chair 2 is neutral hidden
Prep2/2-sit 7-steal 2-BRVR obtain chair 2 making it visible
Action-N/A(automaticly skipped cause already sat on a chair)-sit chair number 2
elimination phase was public chair 2 and 4 was eliminated
prep2-search random-sit 7invalid move cause its Test edition I allowed change, search random- both of you learned chair number 3 is neutral hidden
action2-sit 3(failed)->sit 7,-sit 3
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Re: MC-TE 1 WINNER: BRVR

Postby Jabichuelas » Sat Sep 17, 2016 12:25 pm

Cenvil wrote:Yes you did
Cenvil wrote:Phase-Jabich moves-BRVR moves-chair/knowledge changes
prep1/2-search 7-search random-Jabich obtain chair 7 making it visible-BRVR learn that chair 2 is neutral hidden
Prep2/2-sit 7-steal 2-BRVR obtain chair 2 making it visible
Action-N/A(automaticly skipped cause already sat on a chair)-sit chair number 2
elimination phase was public chair 2 and 4 was eliminated
prep2-search random-sit 7invalid move cause its Test edition I allowed change, search random- both of you learned chair number 3 is neutral hidden
action2-sit 3(failed)->sit 7,-sit 3


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Re: MC-TE 1 WINNER: BRVR TE 2 signup(1 day left)

Postby Cenvil » Sun Sep 18, 2016 9:18 am

There was no rejection neither new sign-ups
so I will begin with you two and 5 chairs.

Lets the game begin.


I will pm your possible moves in a couples of minutes
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Re: MC-TE 2.

Postby Cenvil » Sun Sep 18, 2016 12:25 pm

Both of you succesfully sat on a chair
(As you see I did not announce the phase changes until it was necessary, I sent pms after everyone submitted an action, Is this good for you?)

now begin the elimination phase.
both of you choose which chair do you want to eliminate.
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Re: MC-TE 2.

Postby BRVR » Sun Sep 18, 2016 12:36 pm

/eliminate 4
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Re: MC-TE 2.

Postby Jabichuelas » Sun Sep 18, 2016 1:30 pm

/eliminate 5
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Re: MC-TE 2.

Postby Cenvil » Sun Sep 18, 2016 10:30 pm

You both eliminated a chair

There is 1 neutral visible chair: chair number 3
there are two more chairs: chair number 1 and 2

Round 2 begins.
(I send the possible moves in a couple of minutes)
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Re: MC-TE 2.

Postby Cenvil » Mon Sep 19, 2016 7:08 am

You both succesfully sat on a chair at the end of action phase two.
You both can eliminate a chair.
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Re: MC-TE 2.

Postby Jabichuelas » Thu Sep 22, 2016 3:19 pm

/eliminate 3

Just posted again :P
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Re: MC-TE 2.

Postby BRVR » Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:14 am

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Its a draw

Postby Cenvil » Sun Sep 25, 2016 9:58 am

Both of you eliminated a chair and reached the point where the last chair is a hidden chair what about no one know anything.
for now I will consider it as draw instead RNG the winner

but now I know where I need advance the game:
From now every Preparation phase will have two part

new command:
defend chair X:
Requirement: You need to be Player or Leader
the named chair is safe from Elimination this round
(aka: if you choose this command in preparation or voting phase it still applies in Elimination phase)
It wont save the chair from destroying or auto-elimination


Every Elimination Phase the Leader can choose:
eliminate a chair.
defend a chair (if there are more Leaders).
bank a defensive order.
If he choose bank a defensive order he will get this as a Phase-free action and can use it anytime. (even if he is a Gaia)
the Leeaders choice will announced to everyone.

The eliminations will be from now in secret.
-after the Elimination phase it will be announced which chair/chairs are eliminated

(this way two or more Leader can choose the same chair, avoiding to eliminate only that chair, what was not eliminated yet)

fake commands:
you can give your commands in the thread and in the PMs too, and if you give it both way every time the order in the PM will be considered your order.
(It was so before this too, but now I highlight it)

I will give what happened behind the curtain in TE2 in couple of minutes
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