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Postby lemonader666 » Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:41 am

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  6. watchme1
  7. hereisme
  8. Descender
  9. kosmo16
  10. ejjinami
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SFM83 | GIMballing | Status

Postby lemonader666 » Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:46 am

Alive
  1. watchme1 - Innocent Child
  2. hereisme - Not-Shitty Lookout (sees visitors)
  3. Descender - Chameleon (Town)
  4. ejjinami - Town 1-Shot Bulletproof
Graveyard
  1. PKFlash - Killed N1 - Phantom 2-Shot Neighborizer
  2. kosmo16 - Killed N1 - Bastard Publicizing Daycop
  3. cob709 - Lynched D2 - Psycha
  4. UzayAltay 1 - Killed N2 - Gemini
  5. dolphina - Lynched D3 - RainBow Sherbet (Town)
  6. UzayAltay 2 - Killed N4 - Gemini
  7. Emily372 - Lynched D5 - Mafia Alternating Combat Vendor
ISOs (thanks hereisme)
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dolphina
PKFlash
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Emily372
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Re: SFM83 | GIMballing | Setting Up

Postby lemonader666 » Mon Jun 07, 2021 10:07 am

Sending out rolecards. Please confirm by responding to it.

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Re: SFM83 | GIMballing | Setting Up

Postby lemonader666 » Mon Jun 07, 2021 10:36 am

God fucking damn it I somehow added Emily twice after pointing it out

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Re: SFM83 | GIMballing | Setting Up

Postby lemonader666 » Mon Jun 07, 2021 10:38 am

lemonader666 wrote:God fucking damn it I somehow added Emily twice after pointing it out

I guess this will be a 9p then
Edit: I forgot descender signed up ok nothing changes

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Re: SFM83 | GIMballing | Setting Up

Postby lemonader666 » Tue Jun 08, 2021 1:52 am

Day 1 will start in .

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Re: SFM83 | GIMballing | Day 1

Postby lemonader666 » Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:12 am


Day 1 starts. It will end on in .

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Re: SFM83 | GIMballing | Day 1

Postby hereisme » Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:13 am

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Re: SFM83 | GIMballing | Day 1

Postby hereisme » Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:14 am

First time I've ever been first...
I stayed awake late for this day start kek
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Re: SFM83 | GIMballing | Day 1

Postby Descender » Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:16 am

i was gonna be first but i was getting ready to go out
anyways im going out
ill be back later to soulread all scum
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Re: SFM83 | GIMballing | Day 1

Postby hereisme » Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:20 am

Descender wrote:i was gonna be first but i was getting ready to go out
anyways im going out
ill be back later to soulread all scum

Heh heh, it's been stolen from you.
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Re: SFM83 | GIMballing | Day 1

Postby ejjinami » Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:56 am

ngl, I think I got the best role I could have ever wished for XD

besides cit, that is

all hail lemon
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Re: SFM83 | GIMballing | Day 1

Postby ejjinami » Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:56 am

Descender wrote:i was gonna be first but i was getting ready to go out
anyways im going out
ill be back later to soulread all scum

soulread yourself lol


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Re: SFM83 | GIMballing | Day 1

Postby ejjinami » Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:59 am

hi emily, I can see you lurking

are you scum?


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Re: SFM83 | GIMballing | Day 1

Postby ejjinami » Tue Jun 08, 2021 6:02 am

riiiiight

scum = a term used to describe all roles that aren’t aligned with the town
dunno if it’s been explained in the last game or not


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Re: SFM83 | GIMballing | Day 1

Postby Emily372 » Tue Jun 08, 2021 6:03 am

You know, I wish I was a Vanilla Townie. I should be quarantined from everyone at all costs. I am ill IRL.
But then again, everyone has to have a night ability...
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Serial Killer has killed the TT Jailor... and now the Town has congratulated that serial killer for no reason.
That TT Jailor has a will covered in blood, making it unreadable...
Since there is no medium, the town lost to the SK.
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Re: SFM83 | GIMballing | Day 1

Postby watchme1 » Tue Jun 08, 2021 6:03 am

A quick note about WW theory and how I will play this game. Note that the arguments and facts presented here are indisputable, and that I will not engage in arguments about them, because those arguments are you wasting everyone else's time about meta that is well and comprehensively established. Go make reads so we can read you.

I've reflected on my role and realized that there is a GTO play for me in this game, and therefore I am compelled to pursue it. I am going to brute force my clearness immediately upon the opening of the thread.

I am hard-claiming, I am an innocent child
Benefits:

1. I will survive tonight: I do not believe the wolves are able to kill me tonight, because it is so objectively unlikely that I would ever do this as an innocent child. I believe that this decision reduces the importance of an innocent child cover to be provided by all of you to the point of it being negligible. The wolves have already been outplayed, as it were.

2. I'm lock clear: All of you already know I'm lock clear, because it is so objectively unlikely that I would do this as a wolf. You know this for at least two reasons. First, this is the easiest, lowest-stress, lowest-demand game to wolf in that I've ever played in (except for turbos). I have no need to complicate my life, as a wolf, by open-claiming on thread open, when all I have to do is provide like a C-level wolf game to probably win. This is the rare instance where you literally know that I have a billion other options as a wolf, AND that I would pursue probably ALL of them before pursuing this. Second, I engage in FPS exceedingly rarely, which necessarily means that I *know* that this will look WEIRD and SHOCKING to you. There is no merit to a wolf play that instantly generates WEIRD and SHOCKED responses that I would be obligated to finesse and manage for the remainder of the game. As a villager, which I am, the burden is totally on you to not $#@! up and lynch me. Makes my life super awesome.

3. There are only 8 players you need to try to read, rather than 7: I have already provided a "free" check of me in a game with a mere 9 players. Our win equity is dramatically improved by my being entirely off the table for the entire game.

Conclusion:

The burden of sound reasoning is now entirely upon you. I am an innocent child, and thus a villager, and thus lock clear. The game is immediately simpler than it would otherwise have been, because of my decision. Now, let us enjoy that benefit and win the game.

Also, to preempt a lengthy and pointless discussion.

It is NOT dumb to ponder this post and convince yourself of its wisdom. That is your obligation as not an innocent child, and I encourage you to think it over for as long as it takes to quell your (initially valid but ultimately unnecessary) concerns.

It IS dumb to, AFTER doing that pondering, conclude that I'm "neutral" or "wolfy." That is legitimately stupid, and I won't entertain it. ONE of the reasons it is a stupid conclusion is that the upside of this play as a wolf is absolutely DWARFED by the upside of this play as a villager. There is no equivalency between the EV gain for wolf-me in this position and villager-me in this position. They're universes apart. That means I wouldn't DO the poorer option of the two (by extension, wolf-me also wouldn't BELIEVE that I could convince the entire game of the truth of these assertions for the entire game, which as an end-game wolf I would have to believe if this strategem were to be worth pursuing). A SECOND reason that conclusion is stupid is that the EV bonus of doing this as a wolf is COMPLETELY DWARFED by me baseline wolf EV anyway. Anything that complicates my wolfing life is RIDICULOUSLY stupid for me to do, given that my wolfing life is ALREADY one of the smoothest, highest expectation wolfing lives in WW history anyway. A THIRD reason that conclusion is stupid is that you would probably have to worry about being EXPLOITED by this gambit in order to get there. However, I have NEVER engaged in this, or any similar, gambit in my entire career, meaning that if there IS exploitation to be had with this play, it is in FUTURE GAMES, not this game. For these reasons, pressuring me is extremely wolfy and should not be engaged in by any villager, ever, in this game. There will be no less productive pursuit than that in this game.

Sucks for the wolves when meta is wielded this brutally, but my allegiance is plain and my strategy perfect. Get #rekt.
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Re: SFM83 | GIMballing | Day 1

Postby lemonader666 » Tue Jun 08, 2021 6:07 am

watchme1 has been revealed to be an Innocent Child!

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Re: SFM83 | GIMballing | Day 1

Postby ejjinami » Tue Jun 08, 2021 6:08 am

Emily372 wrote:You know, I wish I was a Vanilla Townie. I should be quarantined from everyone at all costs. I am ill IRL.

yeah, mafia is much less pleasant to play
I’ll put you out of your misery soon :)

Do you remember where you learnt that term btw? Vanilla Town is not a term commonly used on this forum
Have you played FM on any other sites?

I hope you get better soon btw
lemonader666 wrote:watchme1 has been revealed to be an Innocent Child!

wait, for real?
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Re: SFM83 | GIMballing | Day 1

Postby watchme1 » Tue Jun 08, 2021 6:08 am

ejjinami wrote:ngl, I think I got the best role I could have ever wished for XD

besides cit, that is

all hail lemon
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I stayed awake late for this day start kek

hi hereisme


hardclaim ne

do it
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Re: SFM83 | GIMballing | Day 1

Postby ejjinami » Tue Jun 08, 2021 6:12 am

watchme1 wrote:
ejjinami wrote:ngl, I think I got the best role I could have ever wished for XD

besides cit, that is

all hail lemon
hereisme wrote:First time I've ever been first...
I stayed awake late for this day start kek

hi hereisme


hardclaim ne

do it

A quick note about WW theory and how I will play this game. Note that the arguments and facts presented here are indisputable, and that I will not engage in arguments about them, because those arguments are you wasting everyone else's time about meta that is well and comprehensively established. Go make reads so we can read you.

I've reflected on my role and realized that there is a GTO play for me in this game, and therefore I am compelled to pursue it. I am going to brute force my clearness immediately upon the opening of the thread.

I am hard-claiming, I am NotEvil.
Benefits:

1. I will survive tonight: I do not believe the wolves are able to kill me tonight, because it is so objectively unlikely that I would ever do this as a NE. I believe that this decision reduces the importance of a NE cover to be provided by all of you to the point of it being negligible. The wolves have already been outplayed, as it were.

2. I'm lock clear: All of you already know I'm lock clear, because it is so objectively unlikely that I would do this as a wolf. You know this for at least two reasons. First, this is the easiest, lowest-stress, lowest-demand game to wolf in that I've ever played in (except for turbos). I have no need to complicate my life, as a wolf, by open-claiming on thread open, when all I have to do is provide like a C-level wolf game to probably win. This is the rare instance where you literally know that I have a billion other options as a wolf, AND that I would pursue probably ALL of them before pursuing this. Second, I engage in FPS exceedingly rarely, which necessarily means that I *know* that this will look WEIRD and SHOCKING to you. There is no merit to a wolf play that instantly generates WEIRD and SHOCKED responses that I would be obligated to finesse and manage for the remainder of the game. As a villager, which I am, the burden is totally on you to not $#@! up and lynch me. Makes my life super awesome.

3. There are only 8 players you need to try to read, rather than 7: I have already provided a "free" check of me in a game with a mere 9 players. Our win equity is dramatically improved by my being entirely off the table for the entire game.

Conclusion:

The burden of sound reasoning is now entirely upon you. I am a NE, and thus a villager, and thus lock clear. The game is immediately simpler than it would otherwise have been, because of my decision. Now, let us enjoy that benefit and win the game.

Also, to preempt a lengthy and pointless discussion.

It is NOT dumb to ponder this post and convince yourself of its wisdom. That is your obligation as not a NE, and I encourage you to think it over for as long as it takes to quell your (initially valid but ultimately unnecessary) concerns.

It IS dumb to, AFTER doing that pondering, conclude that I'm "neutral" or "wolfy." That is legitimately stupid, and I won't entertain it. ONE of the reasons it is a stupid conclusion is that the upside of this play as a wolf is absolutely DWARFED by the upside of this play as a villager. There is no equivalency between the EV gain for wolf-me in this position and villager-me in this position. They're universes apart. That means I wouldn't DO the poorer option of the two (by extension, wolf-me also wouldn't BELIEVE that I could convince the entire game of the truth of these assertions for the entire game, which as an end-game wolf I would have to believe if this strategem were to be worth pursuing). A SECOND reason that conclusion is stupid is that the EV bonus of doing this as a wolf is COMPLETELY DWARFED by me baseline wolf EV anyway. Anything that complicates my wolfing life is RIDICULOUSLY stupid for me to do, given that my wolfing life is ALREADY one of the smoothest, highest expectation wolfing lives in WW history anyway. A THIRD reason that conclusion is stupid is that you would probably have to worry about being EXPLOITED by this gambit in order to get there. However, I have NEVER engaged in this, or any similar, gambit in my entire career, meaning that if there IS exploitation to be had with this play, it is in FUTURE GAMES, not this game. For these reasons, pressuring me is extremely wolfy and should not be engaged in by any villager, ever, in this game. There will be no less productive pursuit than that in this game.

Sucks for the wolves when meta is wielded this brutally, but my allegiance is plain and my strategy perfect. Get #rekt.


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Re: SFM83 | GIMballing | Day 1

Postby lemonader666 » Tue Jun 08, 2021 6:13 am

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Re: SFM83 | GIMballing | Day 1

Postby hereisme » Tue Jun 08, 2021 6:14 am

ejjinami wrote:
hereisme wrote:First time I've ever been first...
I stayed awake late for this day start kek

hi hereisme
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Congrats on liking your role
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Re: SFM83 | GIMballing | Day 1

Postby ejjinami » Tue Jun 08, 2021 6:18 am

I wonder how many people will SR me now XD

/vote PKFlash

gtg btw


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Re: SFM83 | GIMballing | Day 1

Postby hereisme » Tue Jun 08, 2021 6:20 am

lemonader666 wrote:watchme1 has been revealed to be an Innocent Child!

Alright this is good.
I know you posted a long thing, watch, but I’m too tired to read it.
Personally, I would have needed the legit reveal from lemon anyway.
Mostly due to that flub ya did during Bayonetta showing you’re capable of faking.
But this is good.
Prepare to be Day One voice of reason mate.
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