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Re: D:M@HK Game 1 (First Investigation)

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Re: D:M@HK Game 1 (First Investigation)

Postby EvilDeanius0 » Wed Apr 21, 2021 3:08 pm

Suspect 1: UZAYALTAY
Balloon, Cheeseburger, Belt, Dirty Needle, Whip, Controlled Demolition
Mosquito Coil, Sombrero, Pen, Speaker, Tea Leaves, Gaming Bag

Accident: Balloon, Controlled Demolition
Playground: I don't see anything here (maybe balloon because of children?)
Noon: Nothing relates to this clue
Disorderly: Rules out demolition as 'Bits and Pieces' was not picked
Conflict: Nothing relates to this clue
Jealousy: Yes, I would totally kill someone if I was jealous of their Sombrero

Suspect 2: WATCHME1
Angry Lion, Steel-Made Fan, Drill, Ninja Star, Arsenic, Racing Bicycle
Flashlight, Hanger, Jewelry, Dog Fur, Cockroach, Badge with Lanyard

Accident: Angry Lion, Racing Bicycle
Playground: Racing Bicycle, Flashlight, Dog Fur
Noon: Probably not flashlight (you'd pick night here)
Disorderly: Dogs can be disorderly, Cockroach also might work as it could be dirty
Conflict: This is what I would pick for most options, it only really rules out jewelry due to no 'Loss of Valuables'
Jealousy: Nothing here relates to jealousy much. Angry Lion out due to no 'Hatred'

Suspect 3: EVILDEANIUS0
Eiffel Tower Souvenir, Spartan Sword, Car, Illegal Drug, Marble Brick, Explosives
Michelangelo's Brush, Handkerchief, Lottery Ticket, Yarn, Fax, Eggshell

Accident: Car, Eiffel Tower Souvenir for people who have seen Hot Fuzz
Playground: Eiffel Tower Souvenir (again, great movie)
Noon: Nothing
Disorderly: No explosives, no Eggshell
Conflict: I feel like Car would be scream here
Jealousy: Alas, this rules out Eiffel Tower Souvenir as that scene was definitely about Justice

Suspect 4: MULTIUNIVERSE
Airship, Elevator Shaft, Towel, Curling Stone, Drown, Starvation
Tissue, Rubber Stamp, Clockwork Bird, Sand, Book, Light Bulb

Accident: Airship, Elevator Shaft
Playground: Sand
Noon: Nothing
Disorderly: Tissue maybe, rules out Elevator shaft as no 'Crushed'
Conflict: Rules out Elevator shaft as no 'Power Failure' or 'Scream'
Jealousy: Nothing

Suspect 5: BRVR
Cricket Bat, Scissors, Video Game Console, Machine, Tequila, Pistol
Telephone, Maze, Fly Swatter, Castanets, Computer, Calendar

Accident: Machine
Playground: Maze maybe?
Noon: Nothing
Disorderly: Rules out Machine
Conflict: Rules out Machine
Jealousy: Nothing

Suspect 6: DOLPHINA
Big Ben Souvenir, Electric Current, Medical Waste, Gas Leak, Race Horse, Poisonous Mushroom
Powder, Cassette Tape, Computer Disk, Syringe, Superhero Cape, Maple Leaf

Accident: Big Ben Souvenir (Hot Fuzz round 2), Electric Current, Race Horse,
Playground: Big Ben Souvenir
Noon: Nothing
Disorderly: Medical Waste, Powder
Conflict: Rules out Electric Current
Jealousy: Rules out Superhero Cape, maybe rules out Race Horse?

Suspect 7: CHEEZEPIE
Arson, Work, Laser Shark, Poisonous Gas, Matches, Lighter
Sponge, Office Supplies, Designer Handbag, Bracelet, Wineskin, Eyeliner

Accident: Work
Playground: I see nothing that fits
Noon: Nothing
Disorderly: No Ashes means no Arson, Matches or Lighter
Conflict: No Loss of valuables means no Handbag or Bracelet
Jealousy: Eyeliner? Though that might be more towards Love
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Re: D:M@HK Game 1 (First Investigation)

Postby UzayAltay » Wed Apr 21, 2021 3:23 pm

Suspect 5: BRVR
Cricket Bat, Scissors, Video Game Console, Machine, Tequila, Pistol
Telephone, Maze, Fly Swatter, Castanets, Computer, Calendar

Accident: I think ED's argument make sense for bat.
Playground: No tequila, pistol. scissors, maybe. fly swatter no.
Machine, it is a too general word imo but it is less likely than scissors?
Noon: no on.
state: again no help I believe.
last two: the way it is possible from this list is I think jealous pointing something from second list. Telephone makes the most sense but than we don't really have sth to cause accident from above list, do we? maybe bat, maybe scissors but both are somewhat unlikely.

Suspect 6: DOLPHINA
Big Ben Souvenir, Electric Current, Medical Waste, Gas Leak, Race Horse, Poisonous Mushroom
Powder, Cassette Tape, Computer Disk, Syringe, Superhero Cape, Maple Leaf
Accident: going with ED's logic, I think mushroom wouldn't be.
playground: no gas leak as it is outdoor.no syringe as it wouldn't come when we have hospital. no medical waste and race horse.
electric current is most interesting one so far as it fits none of the descriptions other than accident and possible at outside.
noon: not really helpful again. Maybe it points souvenir over current as big ben is a clock and we have a sharp time.
state: well, maybe, from disorderly we should understand out of order, or something being unusual? I am unsure whether I am streching now or not but if I am not this makes electric current much likelier.
last two: I think powder doesn't feel conflict or jealousy really.cassette doesn't fit jealousy much. computer disk, same.
leaf is an interesting one as it fits playground but it is all, it may work if souvenir is why jealousy is chosen but unlikely.
Most likely pair is EC+ superhero cape imo.

Suspect 7: CHEEZEPIE
Arson, Work, Laser Shark, Poisonous Gas, Matches, Lighter
Sponge, Office Supplies, Designer Handbag, Bracelet, Wineskin, Eyeliner
Accident: No arson. No gas. no work? (seriously what does work mean) no laser shark.
actually yeah no need to further look there probably as (as ED said) no ashes means no matches and lighter, which is simply our first line.
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Re: D:M@HK Game 1 (First Investigation)

Postby UzayAltay » Wed Apr 21, 2021 3:27 pm

@ED I kinda disagree with conflict ruling out EC and jeoolousy ruling out cape.
I think this is even more likelier than my most likely theory before seeing that as this one fits early clues a bit more better.
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Re: D:M@HK Game 1 (First Investigation)

Postby EvilDeanius0 » Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:25 pm

UzayAltay wrote:@ED I kinda disagree with conflict ruling out EC and jeoolousy ruling out cape.
I think this is even more likelier than my most likely theory before seeing that as this one fits early clues a bit more better.

With Electric Current, you would pick Power Failure instead
With Superhero Cape, you would pick Justice instead
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Re: D:M@HK Game 1 (First Investigation)

Postby watchme1 » Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:42 pm

On mobile so only thoughts to come without actual ruling of poe

Including weapons just cause it can cause accidents is not enough, think if it can cause any of the other cause of deaths like severe injury and we can rule out more in terms of not including it under the category of accident

Think of the tiles like a story, then it'll make more sense with regards to why x weapon and y clue was chosen. E.g. x killed y in a playground but set it out with a weapon so it would look like an accident occurred. This happened in the middle of the day due to one of the party's jealousy of achieving something. This is just my mind going places so this point is bot as important but yeah

@Mod Rick. From how I played it irl, the forensic scientist is given a random location tile out of 3 so is the forensic scientist really able to rule out all other 15 locations Or is it just different this time around?
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Re: D:M@HK Game 1 (First Investigation)

Postby UzayAltay » Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:51 pm

I don't think electric current means power failure necessarily, especially at outdoor.

Well, my idea was not the murderer but the victim had the cap but it is an important clue for the incident. If murderer had it it would be justice, but if victim had it and it become involved to the accident somewhat than it may toward to jealous more.
You know, electric current fits the theme so perfectly that I kinda wanna this to work though not sure if I am biased or not
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Re: D:M@HK Game 1 (First Investigation)

Postby watchme1 » Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:54 pm

I don't see how power failure can even work in a playground. Anyways electric current is the means of killing, not the means of a power failure so id still consider electric current as an accident
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Re: D:M@HK Game 1 (First Investigation)

Postby Rickdaily12 » Wed Apr 21, 2021 5:28 pm

watchme1 wrote:@Mod Rick. From how I played it irl, the forensic scientist is given a random location tile out of 3 so is the forensic scientist really able to rule out all other 15 locations Or is it just different this time around?

Excerpt from the PDF rulebook:

The Forensic Scientist sets aside the tiles marked "Location of Crime" and "Cause of Death". They then shuffle the remaining Scene Tiles to form a draw deck.

The Forensic Scientist selects one of the set-aside "Location of Crime" tiles, draws 4 random Scene Tiles from the draw deck, then displays these tiles together with the "Cause of Death" one in front of themself.


My table group interpreted this rule to mean that the Forensic Scientist is given all available Location of Crime tiles, and may freely choose the one they think will best outline the Crime as they imagined how it happened.

It seems to be consistent with the rulebook too, don't you think?
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Re: D:M@HK Game 1 (First Investigation)

Postby watchme1 » Wed Apr 21, 2021 6:10 pm

Rickdaily12 wrote:
watchme1 wrote:@Mod Rick. From how I played it irl, the forensic scientist is given a random location tile out of 3 so is the forensic scientist really able to rule out all other 15 locations Or is it just different this time around?

Excerpt from the PDF rulebook:

The Forensic Scientist sets aside the tiles marked "Location of Crime" and "Cause of Death". They then shuffle the remaining Scene Tiles to form a draw deck.

The Forensic Scientist selects one of the set-aside "Location of Crime" tiles, draws 4 random Scene Tiles from the draw deck, then displays these tiles together with the "Cause of Death" one in front of themself.


My table group interpreted this rule to mean that the Forensic Scientist is given all available Location of Crime tiles, and may freely choose the one they think will best outline the Crime as they imagined how it happened.

It seems to be consistent with the rulebook too, don't you think?


Oh guess we had different interpretations for selects one of the set aside location of crime tiles lol. Selecting one being at random in my case and one for best fit for yours lol.

We'll that actually just makes it a whole lot easier lol
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Re: D:M@HK Game 1 (First Investigation)

Postby watchme1 » Wed Apr 21, 2021 6:11 pm

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Re: D:M@HK Game 1 (Murder Phase)

Postby watchme1 » Wed Apr 21, 2021 7:02 pm

Suspect 1: UZAYALTAY
Balloon, Cheeseburger, Belt, Dirty Needle, Whip, Controlled Demolition
Mosquito Coil, Sombrero, Pen, Speaker, Tea Leaves, Gaming Bag

Balloon - Falls under Poisoning??? (I'm guessing helium balloons or smth, but yea). Not sure what you'd put for this one but it's still a possibility idunno
Cheeseburger - Poisoning for surre
Belt - Suffocation (like a noose)
Dirty needle - Poisoning or illeness/disease
Whip - Severe Injury
Controll Demolition - Likely Accident but doesn't explain state of scene only being disorderly over bits and pieces

From this the only option that's even close is balloon but that's extremely far fetched. Uzay just from weapons alone is less likely to be a suspect here

Suspect 2: WATCHME1
Angry Lion, Steel-Made Fan, Drill, Ninja Star, Arsenic, Racing Bicycle
Flashlight, Hanger, Jewelry, Dog Fur, Cockroach, Badge with Lanyard

Lion - Accident probably, maybe even severe injury or loss of blood but prob lion
fan - loss of blood or severe injury
Drill - severe injury
Ninja star - severe injury
arsenic - Poisoning
Racing Bicycle - Probably accident or severe injury.

Not flashlight cause of time of death being noon,
hanger wouldn't be playground, but bedroom ,
Jewelry in a playground is kinda wack imo, would be hotel/vacation room
Dog Fur would maybe be playground and can fit other circumstances
Cockroach I'd feel would fit a construction site or smth but not playground
Badge with Lanyard - maybe playground? I dunno

Lion/Racing Bicycle - possible weapons
Dog Fur/Badge w/ lanyard -possible clues

Suspect 3: EVILDEANIUS0
Eiffel Tower Souvenir, Spartan Sword, Car, Illegal Drug, Marble Brick, Explosives
Michelangelo's Brush, Handkerchief, Lottery Ticket, Yarn, Fax, Eggshell

Eiffel tower souvenir - severe injury instead?
Spartan Sword - loss of blood
car - definately accident or severe injury
illegal drug - poisoning
marble brick - severe injury/loss of blood
explosives - accident but ruled out cause of state of scene

Michelangelo's Brush - in a playground? maybe a school more likely
Handkerchief - restaurant would make more sense
lottery ticket - vacation home/residence idk about this one tbh
yarn - why is this in a playground
fax - hotel/school/business would be much better
eggshell - kitchen lol

car - likely weapon
no likely clues idk

Suspect 4: MULTIUNIVERSE
Airship, Elevator Shaft, Towel, Curling Stone, Drown, Starvation
Tissue, Rubber Stamp, Clockwork Bird, Sand, Book, Light Bulb

Airship - definately could be accident falling into a playground if there's an appropriate clue rofl
Elevator shaft - accident but playground???
Towel - Suffocation exists
Curling Stone - severe injury exists
Drown - suffocation
Starvation - illness/disease exists

Tissue - hotel? toilet? idk still possible for people tocarry tissues on person so idk
rubber stamp - hotel not playground lol
clockwork bird - not playground
sand - definately playground or construction site. Possible airship/sand?
Book - any room in general but not library
Light Bulb - see book

airship/sand
elevator shaft sand???? lol

Suspect 5: BRVR
Cricket Bat, Scissors, Video Game Console, Machine, Tequila, Pistol
Telephone, Maze, Fly Swatter, Castanets, Computer, Calendar

Bat - Severe injury over accident
Scissors - loss of blood
video game console - severe injury or possible accident via using it to make someone play games to death in a playground or smth lol
Machine - severe injury is more likely than accident
Tequila - poisoning
Pistol - severe injury here?

Telephone - Hotel
Maze - Maybe in a playground???
Fly swatter - idk
Castanets - possible for a kid to bring to a playground lol
computer - why is this in a playground
calender - same with computer

Console/maze?
console/castanet?

Suspect 6: DOLPHINA
Big Ben Souvenir, Electric Current, Medical Waste, Gas Leak, Race Horse, Poisonous Mushroom
Powder, Cassette Tape, Computer Disk, Syringe, Superhero Cape, Maple Leaf

big ben souvenir - severe injury
electric current - possible accident here
medical waste - poisoning or illness/disease instead
Gas leak - definate accident probability here
Race Horse - Accident or severe injury here
Poisonous mushroom - it's in the name LOL

Powder - kitchen? Idk w hy this is in a playground
Cassette Tape - Vacation home is more likely
Computer Disk - Not Playground
Syringe - Maybe???? Toilet would be a more suitable location for this in combination of gas leak/electric current (can see a story of this if that makes sense)
Suepr hero cape - likely seen in a playground, can fit jealously route a s well
Maple leaf - can be dropped from trees in to a playground so possibility

electric current + syringe/cape/leaf
gas leak + syringe/cape/leaf

Suspect 7: CHEEZEPIE
Arson, Work, Laser Shark, Poisonous Gas, Matches, Lighter
Sponge, Office Supplies, Designer Handbag, Bracelet, Wineskin, Eyeliner

Arson - accident but conflict over literal fire is kinda wack. Also ashes vs disorderly
work - Possible? Interpretation of work here is overworking to death but why in a playground over business residence or smth
laser shark - maybe accident?? I see more severe injury here
Poisonous gas - suffocation or poisoning. Can angle to look like accident so leave as an option
Matches - see arson
Lighter - see arson

Sponge - Not playground, maybe bathroom or kitchen
Office Supplies - business/school hotel is better
Designer handbag - hotel? could be found in playground idk
bracelet - can be possible in a playground with kids or smth
Wineskin - why is this in a playground idk
Eyeliner - bathroom

poisonous gas + bracelet?
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Re: D:M@HK Game 1 (First Investigation)

Postby watchme1 » Wed Apr 21, 2021 7:02 pm

that took way longer than needed lol
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Re: D:M@HK Game 1 (First Investigation)

Postby dolphina » Wed Apr 21, 2021 7:03 pm

fun fact: helium can’t poison you by breathing it in
it asphyxiates you instead because you can still breathe it but it isn’t air obviously
so if you breathe only helium for too long you die
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Re: D:M@HK Game 1 (First Investigation)

Postby watchme1 » Wed Apr 21, 2021 7:05 pm

dolphina wrote:fun fact: helium can’t poison you by breathing it in
it asphyxiates you instead because you can still breathe it but it isn’t air obviously
so if you breathe only helium for too long you die


I guess it falls under suffocation then

Well if anything that clears uzay from being a murderer then lol
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Re: D:M@HK Game 1 (First Investigation)

Postby Multiuniverse » Wed Apr 21, 2021 9:31 pm

UzayAltay wrote:I don't think electric current means power failure necessarily, especially at outdoor.

Well, my idea was not the murderer but the victim had the cap but it is an important clue for the incident. If murderer had it it would be justice, but if victim had it and it become involved to the accident somewhat than it may toward to jealous more.
You know, electric current fits the theme so perfectly that I kinda wanna this to work though not sure if I am biased or not


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Re: D:M@HK Game 1 (Murder Phase)

Postby Multiuniverse » Wed Apr 21, 2021 9:44 pm

watchme1 wrote:Airship - definately could be accident falling into a playground if there's an appropriate clue rofl

video game console - severe injury or possible accident via using it to make someone play games to death in a playground or smth lol

Syringe - Maybe???? Toilet would be a more suitable location for this in combination of gas leak/electric current (can see a story of this if that makes sense)
syringe/cape/leaf

Poisonous gas - suffocation or poisoning. Can angle to look like accident so leave as an option
poisonous gas + bracelet?


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Re: D:M@HK Game 1 (Murder Phase)

Postby dolphina » Wed Apr 21, 2021 9:46 pm

Multiuniverse wrote:
watchme1 wrote:Airship - definately could be accident falling into a playground if there's an appropriate clue rofl

video game console - severe injury or possible accident via using it to make someone play games to death in a playground or smth lol

Syringe - Maybe???? Toilet would be a more suitable location for this in combination of gas leak/electric current (can see a story of this if that makes sense)
syringe/cape/leaf

Poisonous gas - suffocation or poisoning. Can angle to look like accident so leave as an option
poisonous gas + bracelet?


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Re: D:M@HK Game 1 (Murder Phase)

Postby watchme1 » Wed Apr 21, 2021 9:51 pm

Multiuniverse wrote:
watchme1 wrote:Airship - definately could be accident falling into a playground if there's an appropriate clue rofl

video game console - severe injury or possible accident via using it to make someone play games to death in a playground or smth lol

Syringe - Maybe???? Toilet would be a more suitable location for this in combination of gas leak/electric current (can see a story of this if that makes sense)
syringe/cape/leaf

Poisonous gas - suffocation or poisoning. Can angle to look like accident so leave as an option
poisonous gas + bracelet?


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Re: D:M@HK Game 1 (First Investigation)

Postby Multiuniverse » Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:41 am

Anyway
Racing Bicycle with Dog Fur/Badge with lanyard seems like the best bet

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Re: D:M@HK Game 1 (First Investigation)

Postby CheezePie » Thu Apr 22, 2021 5:18 am

hi

so we match items with the details given?
i guess so
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Re: D:M@HK Game 1 (First Investigation)

Postby CheezePie » Thu Apr 22, 2021 5:23 am

i sure hope someone witnessed this accidental homicide at a playground in broad daylight
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Re: D:M@HK Game 1 (First Investigation)

Postby CheezePie » Thu Apr 22, 2021 6:14 am

Suspect 1: UZAYALTAY
lol
Sombrero, Pen, Gaming Bag

Suspect 2: WATCHME1
Ninja Star, Racing Bicycle
Jewelry, Dog Fur, Badge with Lanyard

Suspect 3: EVILDEANIUS0
Spartan Sword, Car
Handkerchief, Lottery Ticket

Suspect 4: MULTIUNIVERSE
lol
Tissue, Clockwork Bird, Sand, Book

Suspect 5: BRVR
Machine
Telephone, Maze

Suspect 6: DOLPHINA
Electric Current
Superhero Cape, Maple Leaf

Suspect 7: CHEEZEPIE
Work, Laser Shark - idk what Work means tho
Designer Handbag, Bracelet, Eyeliner

maybe i could rule out a few more that are stretches
im assuming "key evidence" can be anywhere at the crime scene/on the victim/on the murderer

now what
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Re: D:M@HK Game 1 (First Investigation)

Postby CheezePie » Thu Apr 22, 2021 6:22 am

oh right, probably take spartan sword out
was thinking like a toy sword or something but uh what
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Re: D:M@HK Game 1 (First Investigation)

Postby EvilDeanius0 » Thu Apr 22, 2021 6:29 am

CheezePie wrote:i sure hope someone witnessed this accidental homicide at a playground in broad daylight

Well yes, that would be the witness. Someone who knows who the bad guys are and definitely isn't me kill watchme and multi.
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