Creator's Spotlight: Submission Thread #2 (May-August)

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Creator's Spotlight: Submission Thread #2 (May-August)

Postby Schultz128 » Sun May 13, 2018 8:30 pm

The Creator's Spotlight

Submission Thread #2 (May - August)



"Schultz, what is this?"

The Creator's Spotlight is a monthly event to help expand the list of our more serious roles for the Standard and Episode rolelists. Think of this like Grand Idea Mafia, but actually reasonable and meant to spice up the longevity of Standards.



"Schultz, how does this work?"

Whenever an Episode ends, a period known as the "Submission Phase" will occur over the next 3 months until the next Episode starts. During this period, any user may submit their own roles in the Submissions thread (so long as they follow the guidelines listed below in this post). This is also a period to discuss the roles and how they would work in the current meta with other roles or rolelists.

When the next Episode starts, a new period known as the "Voting Phase" will begin. While the Episode is running, a new thread will be made with a list of all submitted roles can be voted for. To vote, a user will PM me (Schultz128) with which role they wish to vote for. Once the Episode ends, we will give all users 3 extra days to vote. Once that deadline is reached, the votes will be tallied and the one with the most votes will win. That role will then be added to the Experimental Rolelist.

Also, with roles, if the entire balance team (Metrion, Swordsworth, alzar, K1llthestory, and myself) find that a role is unbalanced or broken, it will be excluded.

Here is how the ledger works for role submissions:

If there are 1-14 roles eligible for voting:
1 Role will be elected to be added to the Experimental Rolelist. Each user will have 1 vote.

If there are 15-29 roles eligible for voting:
2 Roles will be elected to be added to the Experimental Rolelist. Each user will have 2 votes.

If there are 30+ roles eligible for voting:
3 Roles will be elected to be added to the Experimental Rolelist. Each user will have 3 votes.


"How should my role submission look?"

All roles submissions should have the following:

  • Role name, alignment, and sub-alignment.
  • All abilities listed in a clear and non confusing manner.
  • An ECO (Encyclopedia for Controversial Occurrences) for the role to explain how it works with other roles in the current rolelist.
  • All possible wincons.
  • The name of the post that contains the submission should be retitled to the name of your role (similar to editing the title of a thread.)
  • It's recommended to use the format of the Standard rolecards in the Rolecards thread for guidance of how to format your role.


"Sounds like a nice mey-mey! I'm going to go break the school's windows!"

Not so fast, there are going to be rules to the roles and the voting.


Voting:

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1) Self Voting - Users may not vote for their own roles.

2) Voting Limit and Integrity - Users cannot vote more than what they're assigned. This means you are not allowed to vote on a role with alternate accounts. If a user is discovered to have been using alts to vote for roles, hence exceeding their vote limit, they will be barred from participating in the Creator's Spotlight permanently.

3) Beggars - We prefer if you do not constantly beg for votes. You're allowed to try and convince people to vote for your role, but don't be obnoxious about it.


Role Submission:

Spoiler:
1) Trolling - Don't try to be funny. No one is going to laugh about you submitting a N1 Suicidal Keeper of Light. Any broken, unbalanced, or obvious troll roles will be purged. Constantly submitting troll/purposefully broken roles will result in escalating punishment under the moderators' discretion.

2) Reposting - Any roles that are already virtually accepted in Standards but not listed under the rolecards section (i.e Parity Cop, Potion Maker) will be purged without punishment. If your role is not the winner of the election, you are able to submit the role again in the next election.



Helpful Links

Previous Submission Thread
Previous Voting Thread
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Framer Rework

Postby ZoruaLuhansk » Sun May 13, 2018 8:58 pm

Taken from here: http://www.blankmediagames.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=75850 I don't know rules about credit, but I think this is great.

Framer

You are a Framer.

Your alignment is Mafia Deception.

You are a framer, skilled at forging documents.
With your skill, the Mafia was glad to hire you in exchange for your services.


Each night you have the ability to frame one player of your choice. If they're inspected by a Sheriff or a Parity Cop that night, it'll say they're a Mafia member. You may also choose which role they appear as should they be inspected by Investigators, opposing Consiglieres, and opposing Blackmailers if playing multiball.

In addition, you may choose to focus a player. If the framed player is inspected by a Tracker, they will appear to visit the focused player. If the focused player is visited by a Lookout or opposing Blackmailer, the framed player will appear to visit them (and appear as the role you choose to the Blackmailer).

You can communicate with your allies each night, for as long as they are alive.

Your allies are [x] the [role], [x] the [role], and [x] the [role].

You win with the Mafia
You must kill the Town
You must kill Neutral Killings
You may spare anyone else


ECO later I guess
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They are slaves to barbarism in truth
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Re: Creator's Spotlight: Submission Thread #2 (May-August)

Postby ChubbyMooshroom9 » Sun May 13, 2018 10:07 pm

The Great Zoink

Mafia Trickery

Each night, you may select a player. Should an investigative visit them, you will be told the type of investigation and can adjust their results accordingly.
This is a 3-shot ability.
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Re: Creator's Spotlight: Submission Thread #2 (May-August)

Postby ICECLIMBERS » Mon May 14, 2018 8:07 am

ChubbyMooshroom9 wrote:
The Great Zoink

Each night, you may select a player. Should an investigative visit them, you will be told the type of investigation and can adjust their results accordingly.
This is a 3-shot ability.

How would this even work?
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Re: Creator's Spotlight: Submission Thread #2 (May-August)

Postby ICECLIMBERS » Mon May 14, 2018 2:05 pm

Wip

TBD/ts/block immune self lr commute (??)
Infiltrator(?)/me/feedback snatcher+something else
CL-friendly better bomber?
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Mystic

Postby ManateeDude » Mon May 14, 2018 2:12 pm

You are a Mystic

Your alignment is Mafia Espionage

You have always been a silent supporter of the mafia, but you recently began receiving visions.
The faces are blurry but the intent is clear.

Your allies are the [role], the [role], the [role] and the [role]
Each night, you may choose to receive a vision on one role, you will know who they visited and their results.

You must win with the Mafia
You must kill the Town


I don't really think this needs an ECO tbh.
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Contortionist

Postby Fenraiser » Mon May 14, 2018 3:06 pm

Lul this is like Smuggler :P uhhhh
Contortionist

You are a Contortionist.

Your alignment is Mafia Tactical.

A freak of nature, you were abandoned the day you were born and taken in by the mafia. With your unnatural flexibility and the Mafioso's tutelage, there was never a mission you couldn't complete.

Each night, you may choose a player and any role that exists.
The role that is chosen cannot use it's active abilities to affect the the chosen player
Any investigative roles (affected by the Contortionist) will not get any notifications if they target the person.
You can only choose a certain role once per game.
This role is unique.

Your allies are [x], [x], [x], and [x].

You win with the Mafia
You win with Survivors
You win with Witches
You must kill the Town
You must kill Arsonists
You must kill Serial Killers
You must kill Stalkers
You must kill Bombers
You may spare anyone else

I kind of basically wanted a strongman that wasn't really strong but had a bit more utility (it doesn't have much though tbh).

Btw it has higher priority than transporters, but it is not immune to roleblockers.

Uh, the role is kind of weird so tell me what you guys think about it.

Practical Uses:
Contortionist chooses Mafia Member A and the role Bodyguard. Mafia Member A can freely carry out the factional kill without worry of any bodyguards killing them.

Contortionist chooses Mafia Member B and the role Serial Killer. Mafia Member B cannot be killed by a serial killer.

Contortionist chooses the Mayor when the TPs are dead but a transporter lives. Make Mayor be immune to transporters and then you have your free kill.

Quirks:
Contortionist chooses a Consort and makes it immune to SK, and the Consort visits a Serial Killer. The Consort will still be killed because the serial killer killing it's role blockers is a passive ability.
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Coroner

Postby Fenraiser » Mon May 14, 2018 3:21 pm

Coroner

You are a Coroner.

Your alignment is Mafia Deception.

[Flavor story here]

Each night, you may choose someone and alter their flip should they be lynched the next day.
This modification will only apply to the next day, and other modifications must be reapplied.
Once you die, any changes you made are reverted.

Your allies are [x], [x], [x], and [x].

You win with the Mafia
You win with Survivors
You win with Witches
You must kill the Town
You must kill Arsonists
You must kill Serial Killers
You must kill Stalkers
You must kill Bombers
You may spare anyone else


Probably unhealthy for the game but it's more spicy.
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Re: Coroner

Postby ZoruaLuhansk » Mon May 14, 2018 3:24 pm

Fenraiser wrote:
Coroner

You are a Coroner.

Your alignment is Mafia Deception.

[Flavor story here]

Each night, you may choose someone and alter their flip should they be lynched the next day.
This modification will only apply to the next day, and other modifications must be reapplied.
Once you die, any changes you made are reverted.

Your allies are [x], [x], [x], and [x].

You win with the Mafia
You win with Survivors
You win with Witches
You must kill the Town
You must kill Arsonists
You must kill Serial Killers
You must kill Stalkers
You must kill Bombers
You may spare anyone else


Probably unhealthy for the game but it's more spicy.


one word: bastard
see Salem WItch Trials Mafia
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Re: Creator's Spotlight: Submission Thread #2 (May-August)

Postby Fenraiser » Mon May 14, 2018 3:25 pm

Yeah, on second thought it's bastard scrap the Coroner.
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Re: Creator's Spotlight: Submission Thread #2 (May-August)

Postby Varanus » Mon May 14, 2018 3:35 pm

"It's not bastard if it's listed in the role cards"
~ Everyone that still thinks Godfather is okay
You were expecting a decent signature...

BUT IT WAS ME! DIO!
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Re: Creator's Spotlight: Submission Thread #2 (May-August)

Postby Fenraiser » Mon May 14, 2018 4:33 pm

That feeling when you make a nerfed strongman but the role is already in its experimental stages.
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Re: Creator's Spotlight: Submission Thread #2 (May-August)

Postby ZoruaLuhansk » Mon May 14, 2018 7:20 pm

Varanus wrote:"It's not bastard if it's listed in the role cards"
~ Everyone that still thinks Godfather is okay

godfather is as much bastard as framer
coroner is as much bastard as deathmiller

I honestly prefer mafia heads other than godfather, but I wouldnt go so far as to call it bastard.
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Re: Creator's Spotlight: Submission Thread #2 (May-August)

Postby Varanus » Mon May 14, 2018 8:08 pm

False negatives and false positives are two very different things
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Snow(Baller)

Postby moonbird » Mon May 14, 2018 10:48 pm

(Snow)Baller

You are a (Snow)Baller.

Your alignment is Town Investigative.

Fresh out of the ice rink and always gunning to go, you've decided to hang up your skates and prepare to cut right through these herds of ancient croakers. And what else will you scream as you rush by? Called it!

Each phase, you may predict the role of the next player to die. If you guess correctly, you will receive the role of their killer. This is not a visiting action, and thus you cannot be roleblocked, redirected, or otherwise prevented by another player targeting you.

If multiple killing roles target your target, then you will only receive the role of the player who performed the kill. You will not receive a result if your target does not die or is saved from death.

If the flip of your target is somehow manipulated, i.e. a clean, your action will fail. You will be informed that your target was tampered with, and thus you cannot receive a result.

You will receive no results from a successful lynch or mechanical death.

(town wincon)


serves to out killers in unattributed kill games and provide information about the mafia composition to town otherwise in attributed kill games, same with dayvigs

weak af invest but grants more info since you can just spam citizen predictions, which may or may not be a good thing.

name and flavor subject to change
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Re: Creator's Spotlight: Submission Thread #2 (May-August)

Postby Maria1999 » Tue May 15, 2018 3:35 pm

framer is ass and buffing it helps nothing. set rolelists should be made that are closed rather than trying to buff bad roles and purposely bad roles. the great zoink has a stupid name, and also falls under the category of buffing a weak role.

gunsmith is just a reflavored version of another role i can't specifically recall the name of but know it exists. it works as a solid ita role, perhaps sometimes stronger than vig if you're talking about whether a weak player roles vig or gun owner, so i have no general problems here.

mystic is just a buffed tracker. bad role.

contortionist is a decent role with a better skill cap than some mafia, but it relies on prs and is a completely buffed version of strongman that still might be viable. very meh.

coroner is a bad role. bastard.

framer and godfather are bastard which is why i bag on them so much. your point is stupid and an ill attempt to defend godfather, zorua.
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Re: Creator's Spotlight: Submission Thread #2 (May-August)

Postby ManateeDude » Tue May 15, 2018 7:20 pm

Maria1999 wrote:mystic is just a buffed tracker. bad role.


Could you explain what's bad about this specific alignment being a buffed tracker role?
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Re: Creator's Spotlight: Submission Thread #2 (May-August)

Postby ManateeDude » Tue May 15, 2018 7:38 pm

TeamMystic wrote:Tracker: Town Invest that sees who visited someone at night.

Mystic: ME that sees who visited someone at night + what happened to them


I'm aware, what's the issue is the question I'm asking.
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Re: Creator's Spotlight: Submission Thread #2 (May-August)

Postby Fenraiser » Tue May 15, 2018 7:43 pm

Would an inaccurate Mafia Espionage flipper be bastard if it's Mafia Espionage?
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Re: Creator's Spotlight: Submission Thread #2 (May-August)

Postby Maria1999 » Tue May 15, 2018 8:25 pm

ManateeDude wrote:
TeamMystic wrote:Tracker: Town Invest that sees who visited someone at night.

Mystic: ME that sees who visited someone at night + what happened to them


I'm aware, what's the issue is the question I'm asking.

some roles are designed to be weaker.
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Re: Creator's Spotlight: Submission Thread #2 (May-August)

Postby xUltiix » Tue May 15, 2018 8:51 pm

Fenraiser wrote:Would an inaccurate Mafia Espionage flipper be bastard if it's Mafia Espionage?

Would cancer on your little toe still be cancer if it's on your little toe?
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Re: Creator's Spotlight: Submission Thread #2 (May-August)

Postby Fenraiser » Tue May 15, 2018 8:56 pm

xUltiix wrote:
Fenraiser wrote:Would an inaccurate Mafia Espionage flipper be bastard if it's Mafia Espionage?

Would cancer on your little toe still be cancer if it's on your little toe?

Alright.
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Re: Creator's Spotlight: Submission Thread #2 (May-August)

Postby BasicFourLife » Tue May 15, 2018 11:43 pm

[Posting to be notified]
I am kindly telling you to fuck off mate.

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Re: Creator's Spotlight: Submission Thread #2 (May-August)

Postby ZoruaLuhansk » Wed May 16, 2018 6:45 am

Credit for ICECLIMBERS

Infiltrator

You are the Infiltrator.

Your alignment is Mafia Support.

Each night, you may choose a player to steal their night results.
They will not recieve their night results, and instead will be notified that they were stolen.
You will recieve their night results, including investigative results.


Example messages:
Your night results were stolen!

Your target slept peacefully.
Your target's target was attacked!
Your target's target is not suspicious.

etc.
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