NFM65 | Game Over (Two Steps Forward)

[MrChuckleteeth]

Actually, Seth’s ISO is kind of scummy, especially that post about the “night plan” for themselves and Wabbit.

/vote unvote

I need to think more carefully.

[MrChuckleteeth]

I'm afraid it's because there have been no cc yet. Atleast it does serve to make a poe pool.

You think all false claims would be cc'd? Doubt that. Ppl ain't falling for this VFR and rolefishing hopefully

Ppl, don't claim!!!!!!!!!

Massclaiming never is the play here

Wtf. VFR? Also why is everybody trusting this claims so easily?

These three posts prove Phone’s over-reluctance to mass claim, I’m thinking it’s probably because of fear that something like what happened today could happen.

And on a side note, now you understand why I refused to claim and wanted to get a massclaim with the scummiest people claiming first. So i could do exactly what I did to Phone.

I think I still lean Phone being the scum here, my question is who is likely to be their buddy, or Seth’s buddy should they be town? Or does it not matter in order to figure out who’s scum out of Seth and Phone?

[GrumpyGoomba]

Imo the remaining scumteam is either seth/kears or ph0ne/ultix, with heavily leaning on the latter being scum.

[Seththeking]

Honestly it could still be Seth or Chuckle.
Since both their results came after the person they checked claimed.

I made Kears Claim.
They didn’t claim until I told them to.

[GrumpyGoomba]

Technically you could just have provided pressure on kears and when they claimed you could've given your results accordingly but whatever.

[spiderpoolcorps]

Just because you put pressure on Kears to claim doesn't mean you A) actually checked them or B) actually are investigator and not consig.

Of course a Consig would happily claim TI D1, since there's no nk in play to kill them.

I still don't think you're an Investigator.
I think Chuckle and Phone are the TI and second RT

[Kears123]

Just because you put pressure on Kears to claim doesn't mean you A) actually checked them or B) actually are investigator and not consig.

Of course a Consig would happily claim TI D1, since there's no nk in play to kill them.

I still don't think you're an Investigator.
I think Chuckle and Phone are the TI and second RT

If Seth is consig, this would mean in my opinion that Ultiix is s/s with Seth and Seth invested me and Ultiix is scum who planed all this to get my mled. Gg guys. This is a town win.

/vote Seth

[xUltiix]

Can't we just lynch Ultix and have Kears shoot Phone?

Small problem with this

[xUltiix]

Imo the remaining scumteam is either seth/kears or ph0ne/ultix, with heavily leaning on the latter being scum.

Why do you think I’m scum with phoneix? Not why either of us are scum individually, but together. I don’t see any reasons as to why me and phone would ever be a team. Just curious on the pairing.

[xUltiix]

If we let TKs fight it out, assuming the shot goes through, all we have to do is lynch all the TI claims in any order and we have a mechanically guaranteed win. This is an easy choice. If the shot doesnt happen for any reason, we're also no worse off.

[xUltiix]

Okay, there's a problem with the current ideas. If Mafioso is allowed to remember Godfather in the day, which it might be able to according to the role card, it would have immunity. Kears, via the invest results, is definitely Mafioso and can turn Godfather to block my shot. From people who believe I'm scum's points of view, Mafioso is a high possibility for me also due to it having a more likely slot in the rolelist and because my claim is Vigi, something easy to pass as as mafioso when there's an invest. Therefore, a new plan should be made to stop that stuff happening.

New plan:
If Kears is the real vigi, he shoots Seth.
If I'm the real vigi, I shoot dota.
Today, we lynch phoneix.
Spider marshal protects me.
Tomorrow, we lynch whichever out of Me/Kears didn't shoot the right target. If no shot happens, I'm confirmed to be scum because a consort could not have roleblocked me.
Spider being an open target doesn't matter because the game will become mechanically locked.
If today's lynch + tonight's shot kill the last scum, we can then lynch whichever vigi claim turns out to be false tomorrow and instantly win.
If we are unlucky and hit everyone except the last scum, we then know who it is because it's the last TI claim.

This plan is mechanically infallible from all perspectives, unless I messed something up.
Can everyone respond with what they think of this plan and if I messed up and have something wrong in it?

[dota2reporter]

wait why tf am i being shot in your plan

[xUltiix]

wait why tf am i being shot in your plan

Because you're a TI claim
I actually don't care who is shot or lynched between TI claims, but it just needs to be set today.

[dota2reporter]

wait why tf am i being shot in your plan

Because you're a TI claim
I actually don't care who is shot or lynched between TI claims, but it just needs to be set today.

i never claimed ti
phone, chuckle and seth did

[xUltiix]

wait why tf am i being shot in your plan

Because you're a TI claim
I actually don't care who is shot or lynched between TI claims, but it just needs to be set today.

i never claimed ti
phone, chuckle and seth did

mcscuse me
apparently i'm very misinformed
i thought you claimed a TI at some point
the plan still stands, just replace you with chuckle.

[Chemist1422]

If a mafioso were to backup a godfather, they would instantly gain the godfather's passives.

[GrumpyGoomba]

Dota is fking confirmed. We do not kill dota in any case.

[Seththeking]

Dota is fking confirmed. We do not kill dota in any case.

I know Dota is pretty much confirmed but Just Imagine Mafia attacks There own Mafia and BG protects that Mafia.

God tier Play.
Mafia deserves to auto win!

[xUltiix]

New plan has changes in blue bold. I thought Dota was a TI claim before, he's not so he's not involved in being shot.
Read this one, disregard the old one.

Okay, there's a problem with the current ideas. If Mafioso is allowed to remember Godfather in the day, which it might be able to according to the role card, it would have immunity. Kears, via the invest results, is definitely Mafioso and can turn Godfather to block my shot. From people who believe I'm scum's points of view, Mafioso is a high possibility for me also due to it having a more likely slot in the rolelist and because my claim is Vigi, something easy to pass as as mafioso when there's an invest. Therefore, a new plan should be made to stop that stuff happening.

New plan:
If Kears is the real vigi, he shoots Seth.
If I'm the real vigi, I shoot dota mrchuckleteeth.
Today, we lynch phoneix.
Spider marshal protects me.
Tomorrow, we lynch whichever out of Me/Kears didn't shoot the right target. If no shot happens, I'm confirmed to be scum because a consort could not have roleblocked me.
Spider being an open target doesn't matter because the game will become mechanically locked.
If today's lynch + tonight's shot kill the last scum, we can then lynch whichever vigi claim turns out to be false tomorrow and instantly win.
If we are unlucky and hit everyone except the last scum, we then know who it is because it would then be whoever's target didnt get shot between vigis.

This plan is mechanically infallible from all perspectives, unless I messed something up.
Can everyone respond with what they think of this plan and if I messed up and have something wrong in it?

[xUltiix]

^^the non bolded blue (the consort thing) isnt a change, it was just from the last one where i already had it in non-bold blue

[spiderpoolcorps]

But it doesn't tell us who is killed by vig and who is killed by Mafia, right?

[xUltiix]

Not bad.

TheWabbit died protecting his target, he was a Bodyguard!

TheDebil was killed by a bodyguard, he was the Godfather!

Day 2 begins! It will end

If you did not get a night result you slept peacefully.

Death credits exist in NFM.

[Chemist1422]

Death credits exist in NFM.

this but in bold pink

[spiderpoolcorps]

Alright, sounds good to me.
/vote unvote
/Vote Phone

[Chemist1422]

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