VFM45: Purgatory II: Rickdemption (Town Wins!)

[LOLingHyena]

Eragon, sorry for pushing you so much. XD I thought you would've been the easiest to push out of you, Tilted, and Rick, but neither of them was having any of that, except for when Rick was sus of you and Tilted at that one point in the game. I probably should've just followed Rick there instead of trying to push him.

i was actually gonna push tilted as scum because of his defense of fwog and attempt to swing the wagon

._.

Shit, really?

[Eragon1329]

yes

although i probably would have had either a tilted/multi or tilted/hyena team


i felt dirty about calling ph0ne town based off his ISO, but i couldnt deny the fact that he voted Fwog instead of voting another person that would be town, as well as just... probably town, even though im so... just blergh

[Tiltedcomedian]

Eragon, sorry for pushing you so much. XD I thought you would've been the easiest to push out of you, Tilted, and Rick, but neither of them was having any of that, except for when Rick was sus of you and Tilted at that one point in the game. I probably should've just followed Rick there instead of trying to push him.

i was actually gonna push tilted as scum because of his defense of fwog and attempt to swing the wagon

._.

I figured that was coming, though I was sure Phone was scum and would've done the same in reverse if fwog was town.

Sorry for trying to pocket you, Tilted. ;-; You were right though. I was trying to pocket Rick D1 and part of D2.

It was cozy.

You got the short end when you had to deal with both me and Rick, because the more you had to pocket Rick the more suspicious I got.

[Rickdaily12]

Thanks for hosting, Non, this was fun and I am really glad I ended up playing. Hope I didn't harass you (too much). And I appreciate that title more than you'll ever know.

Makes all the stress I suffered so much more satisfying in the end. Will we be treated by a mod rant?

Eragon, sorry for pushing you so much. XD I thought you would've been the easiest to push out of you, Tilted, and Rick, but neither of them was having any of that, except for when Rick was sus of you and Tilted at that one point in the game. I probably should've just followed Rick there instead of trying to push him.

i was actually gonna push tilted as scum because of his defense of fwog and attempt to swing the wagon

._.

I figured that was coming, though I was sure Phone was scum and would've done the same in reverse if fwog was town.

I didn't know at the time how I was going to go about solving this myself.

I was bracing for multiple different worlds where Eragon and Phone together were pocketing me, and worlds where Tilted and Fwog were trying to push against me while trying to continually send Hyena to Heaven. But when fwog flipped Mafia, I looked at both of those outcomes and went something like "but hold on, Multi and Phone should still be TvS here" and I was running out of tinfoils that didn't just involve sending Phone into Heaven outright. I still liked Hyena for open wolfing Mafia, so I realized I was being paranoid about something.

ugh rick is going to try to take charge isn't he?

Town loses I think.

Oh ye of little faith.

I disagree about this setup being town-sided outright. Both sides have very little room for error. If it's not balanced, then I'd argue the lack of room for error in exchange of learning something tilts the scales more on the side of Scum as they have two win conditions versus the only option available to the Town. I would say, shorter games, both in time and in the length of the actual game, tilts in favor of Scum by design for that reason.

rickdaily is lowkey angleshooting with the visibility stuff
actually very blatantly...

Meh. I thought about this and pushed it away.

This was an aspect of the last game which everyone thought and knew we were going to incorporate into this one. There are zero rules against active players talking directly to the Marytrs, and given that they still have an active role in the game, it shouldn't be discouraged. The only difference was me asking Chemist to insert when he wanted us talking to him being a thing, whereas in the last game Hyena never had his visibility off in the first place, and I would just talk directly at him by virtue of knowing he was reading.

If there was an exploitable difference here, I'd probably have humored against asking this of Chemist at the time, but like I said, literally everyone knew it was coming anyway.

So was rick right and the whole stuff about scumslipping was intentional or was it fully unintentional
I want bragging rights over rick
Which part?
the part where he said you scumslipped
and it was either intentional scum or unintentional town
like doing the "wrong" team
one that from your point of view wouldnt be a win for town
Oh, I was 100% provoking him.
DAMNIT so it was intentional?
Yes. XD
NOOOOOOOOO
@Rickdaily12 You win this time

Haha, get fucked, Eragon. xD

I'm sure you'll nail me some other time, but not today.

okay
with town!Rick the PoE is {Hyena/Phone/Tilted/Eragon/Multi/Fwog}
I'm going to try to get a read on Multi first
fwog is being almost intentionally inconvenient tbh
Actually I need to lock this as I also locked the mafia chat
:thinking:
Yeah that sounds stupid
Have fun talking with yourself

Haha, Non, you're the best xD

Also, I'm sure we can all agree we're all the most annoyed that fwog didn't answer this question:

Also, hi there. I have been your number 1 fan since halfway into the day. I want to know everything about you, how you eat, breathe, what makes you tick, if you like long walks on the beach, and, most importantly, you have to tell me which of us you would Kill/Marry/Fuck, got it?

I guess we'll never know.

And, finally, after all that I suffered this game, the endless sigh.PNGs and sigh.gifs, the point where I had to actually invent my own personal image for it, the fact that I couldn't read virtually anyone as Town for shit, and suffered the thread dying at pretty much every point where I had to step away for some personal reason or other...

...that, combined with the fact that once I realized on Hell 2 that I could start an endgame plan that revolved around just milking that everyone was TRing me, including the Marytr I sent to Heaven, and how slimy I felt afterwards just outright cramming it down everyone's throat to just be okay with the baseline fact that I was Town...

knowing that THIS is what unraveled in the Mafia Chat moments after I unveiled that endgame plan made absolutely everything in this game worth it and satisfying:

Ok we have a problem
Rick's plan would basically guarantee to win the game unless we somehow convince him to send me/fwog, me/hyena, hyena/fwog
Me/fwog is out of the question as rick is convinced we're the same alignment
Another option is go with the plan and lynch town today then hope chemist choose town during JD

I haven't decided which option is better to be honest. The thing with letting Chemist choose in JD is that there's a good chance he'll choose correctly.
But yeah, Rick's plan put us in a pickle, which is why I've been trying to sow doubt and chaos to show that the plan might not be a good idea.

(a bit later)

Yeah I don't think you did a good job

(even more later)

I'm trying something
i think

(Heaven Phase 2 begins)

we're fucked

Oh damn, seeing the three of you in that state of panic for a change WAS SO FUCKING WORTH EVERYTHING.

Well played, the three of you, regardless. You might not have won, but you certainly didn't make it easy for us.

[Rickdaily12]

I'll also mark this game as the absolute best I have ever handled myself as Town, like, ever.

I've never been in so much pain about the gut reads I had of the situation, so unsure of everything I ever said, just to eventually come to the right conclusion at just about every turn with the exception of Hell Phase 1.

I expected so much more tripping over myself on Hell 2, but that reckoning never came, and I feel great for it.

[Eragon1329]

Rick I still dont know why you think im so devious as scum

;_;

[Rickdaily12]

Rick I still dont know why you think im so devious as scum

;_;

You don't understand how hard it is for me to doubt you when you're walling about stuff that makes sense to me <_<

I still don't know how to compare/contrast your Town play from your Scum play here, so I'll just wing it and wear a tinfoil hat with you like I did this game :')

[Eragon1329]

oh btw my scum game has gotten a lot better since the last purg

:^)

[Rickdaily12]

Var and ejj both thought I was Mafia upon their first reads of the game

I told them they could shove it

[fwogcarf]

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME RICK???

[Eragon1329]

r00d

[LOLingHyena]

Var and ejj both thought I was Mafia upon their first reads of the game

I told them they could shove it

lol

[LOLingHyena]

Who else did they think was mafia?

[LOLingHyena]

Rick I still dont know why you think im so devious as scum

;_;

It's not just him. Remember FML's game where I forced you to use your PR ability to clear yourself? I was paranoid that you could be scum in spite of acting towny.

[Eragon1329]

Rick I still dont know why you think im so devious as scum

;_;

It's not just him. Remember FML's game where I forced you to use your PR ability to clear yourself? I was paranoid that you could be scum in spite of acting towny.

lul

but that was more recent

although still before my truly refined scum game

[Rickdaily12]

Who else did they think was mafia?

I wouldn't let them say, especially ejj, who actually wanted to play as a replacement really badly until I told her that I was fairly sure I solved the game (with the endgame plan)

Both were my personal scream cushions when I needed to yell about what was happening on the thread, which was often.

Ejj did tell me after you and I had our back and forth that she was utterly stunned that you 100% owned up to trying to provoke me, though.

[Tiltedcomedian]

Rick I still dont know why you think im so devious as scum

;_;

It's not just him. Remember FML's game where I forced you to use your PR ability to clear yourself? I was paranoid that you could be scum in spite of acting towny.

lul

but that was more recent

although still before my truly refined scum game

Aha! I fear nothing. Even you become napkins!

[Eragon1329]

Rick I still dont know why you think im so devious as scum

;_;

It's not just him. Remember FML's game where I forced you to use your PR ability to clear yourself? I was paranoid that you could be scum in spite of acting towny.

lul

but that was more recent

although still before my truly refined scum game

Aha! I fear nothing. Even you become napkins!

you are thin as paper

[Tiltedcomedian]

Rick I still dont know why you think im so devious as scum

;_;

It's not just him. Remember FML's game where I forced you to use your PR ability to clear yourself? I was paranoid that you could be scum in spite of acting towny.

lul

but that was more recent

although still before my truly refined scum game

Aha! I fear nothing. Even you become napkins!

you are thin as paper

Cool! You can't really see the edges of the tea-bag underwear.

[Eragon1329]

your glitter pants are like scissors in my eyes

[Tiltedcomedian]

Rick I still dont know why you think im so devious as scum

;_;

It's not just him. Remember FML's game where I forced you to use your PR ability to clear yourself? I was paranoid that you could be scum in spite of acting towny.

I felt this way about Rick.

I was sure you were town until you started flailing at the end, Eragon. Reminded me too much of my last game with puma.

[non271103]

Probably won't be doing a mod rant but hope you all had fun during the game!
I had loads of fun hosting and spectating the game. Mafia team played well in distancing themselves from each other and if Phone had been lynched Hell 2, mafia would have a high chance of winning (Chemist would of chosen Tilted most likely). Town arguably played better, along with the fact that this setup is quite town sided. Rick was the obvious town MVP of the game hence the ending title.

I guess I just did a mini mod rant so lol, but that's it.

[ejjinami]

Also, I'm sure we can all agree we're all the most annoyed that fwog didn't answer this question:

most importantly, you have to tell me which of us you would Kill/Marry/Fuck, got it?

I guess we'll never know. :(

(┛ಠДಠ)┛彡┻━┻
fWoG, hOw cOuLD yOu!?
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Rick I still dont know why you think im so devious as scum

;_;

(¬‿¬)
Suuure

Who else did they think was mafia?

At first I thought it should be sth like that:
[phone]
[eragon]
[rick/hyena]
[fwog, multi, tilted]

I had you and rick as TvS because you interacted with each other in a way which seemed like you might have been trying to suck up to one another… which felt scummy, but most definitely wasn’t SvS
Like, there was soooo much fluff and “fRiEnDlY paranoia” in rick’s early posts, which felt off and should be incredibly easy for him to fake as scum…
And you kept pushing people in a half-assed way and kept asking rick about it instead of doing the work yourself.

And then after those posts:

I have legitimately lost my temper

I have legitimately lost my temper

I am extremely reluctant to believe that I'm the first person to tell you that your approach to games is frustrating.

I still don't think you've been reading the most recent, let's go with, I'd say 3 pages?

So if you're upset by me constantly saying I want more from you, I'm sorry, but it's out of need at this point, fwog. And if you need to cool your jets, that's fine, go do that, but I think you're going to want to look at what you've written again once you've noticed what's been going on.

Alright I'll leave the game then

Sigh.gif

I'll deal with this when I get home.

Ok scum

So, Hyena, are you implying a Rick/Tilted scumteam?

I got to sth like:
[phone, rick]
[eragon, tilted]
[multi]
[fwog, hyena]

Fwog’s last posts were so telling… Lol, considering fwog’s constant apathy towards scum-reading, the difference in how he treated rick and hyena and how he seemed to want to “sheep hyena” just to irritate rick, was incredibly icky.
Oh man, that last post solved the game to me. Had I been playing, I’d have most probably gotten paranoid and screwed up 10 times over, but lol xD

Ejj did tell me after you and I had our back and forth that she was utterly stunned that you 100% owned up to trying to provoke me, though.

True, I would have never done that… There were so many easier ways to deal with the problem...
And no one except rick seemed to agree with his analysis, so you could have probably just simply made him paranoid…
Tbh you admitting that his interpretation was correct felt like you just gave up.

[ejjinami]

I love the endgame title btw.

[ejjinami]

lol, such a bad pun