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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 12:45 pm
by Eragon1329
Bodhrak wrote:
Kears123 wrote:
Bodhrak wrote:I'm not even sure if everyone has posted their night results?
But it pretty much should be SP across the board.

I guess now we wait for flint or their replacement.
Then go with a PL.


I think everyone should be good, Chemist is the only one who said he was roleblocked. I can check for night results too. brb

Who would you want to PL and what makes you think they could be a PL?

One of the new players. Joeshe or righto.
They are barely contributing and if they do, they prefer to follow wagons or being lead by others and that is really bad lategame.

I still scumread Juve, but lynching him now doesn't give us a lot of info.


i don't disagree about Joeshe/Righto but if you think they will probably flip town(implied by PL) then don't lynch them, especially not yet.

info isn't the only reason to lynch someone.
Its a good addition to a lynch, but the main reason to lynch someone is because you think they are scum

If juve doesn't give us info, how does righto/joeshe?

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 12:47 pm
by Eragon1329
Flint9 wrote:
Kears123 wrote:
Flint9 wrote:I had nothing happen to me during night time.


That's good! Who do you think is scum/mafia and why?


I think that Tilted is scum, as he seems to be meming even after D1, and he seems to be trying to just shut down all accusations about him without good reasoning.


basically the same boat as Juve here.

tilted has been getting a lot of pressure for memeing the last page or two, and basically repeating the same thing and hopping on the wagon feels opportunistic

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 12:51 pm
by Tiltedcomedian
@Bodhrak I mean, yeah, that's kinda what we're here for :P

I play differently from most of the other people here, so you don't have to use my approach /shrug.

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 12:59 pm
by Bodhrak
Tiltedcomedian wrote:@Bodhrak I mean, yeah, that's kinda what we're here for :P

I play differently from most of the other people here, so you don't have to use my approach /shrug.

Fine, you're off the hook for now.
/vote unvote

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 1:03 pm
by Eragon1329
damn i forgot how long ISO's take ;_;

I've only done 2 so far

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 1

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 1:19 pm
by Varanus
Current Vote Count
Player Votes Voters
  # Votes Until Majority


Not voting:
rightodude, Joeshe, Eragon1329, JuvenileFourtyTwo, Bodhrak


End of Day 2:


Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 2:10 pm
by 0verki11
Eragon1329 wrote:Is kears always this cheerful?

from what I remember yes

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 4:41 pm
by Bodhrak
rightodude wrote:Personally I don’t think that there is enough evidence towards tilted being scum. That “d00d” post was scummy but I don’t think that it automatically makes him mafia, he might just have reads towards him thinking that he’s mafia? Still not sure about that post but everyone makes mistakes. If I had to vote right now it would be on tilted or juve. Probs tilted

So you don't think there is evidence on Tilted and you'd still vote Tilted over Juvenile. Hm.
That seems almost like a half-assed defense for Juve.

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 4:49 pm
by Bodhrak
Eragon1329 wrote:i don't disagree about Joeshe/Righto but if you think they will probably flip town(implied by PL) then don't lynch them, especially not yet.

info isn't the only reason to lynch someone.
Its a good addition to a lynch, but the main reason to lynch someone is because you think they are scum

If juve doesn't give us info, how does righto/joeshe?

As explained before I doubt both of them are scum so if one gets a redflip it semi-clears the other for me.
If they flip town, then we have at least a target for tommorow should nothing else arise (like a TI info or some scummy behavior).

Juve doesn't give me info as almost everyone has scumread them at some point, so whatever they flip we can only analyse votes, if anything.
And said fact also makes me lean more on the town side and less on the bussed by his buddies side.

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 4:51 pm
by Bodhrak
Bach to my workday schedule.

For now I'm gonna

vote /rightodude

And get to sleep.

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:13 pm
by 0verki11
JuvenileFourtyTwo wrote:Okay. Time for the legendary 0verkill reads:
So, looking through 0verkill's posts, there is a lot of apprehension to lynch whoever the latest wagon is. Including ph0ne and me. They were extremely strong on standing with their votes and consistently said whomever they voted for was scum no matter what.
If 0verkill is scum, then Chemist is probably scum buddy as 0verkill constantly defends Chemist

I mean my reads have lined up alot with Chemists so I would give you that but Chemist is confirmed town.
Also I stand reasonably strong on most votes I make.

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:27 pm
by 0verki11
JuvenileFourtyTwo wrote:
0verki11 wrote:
JuvenileFourtyTwo wrote:Okay. Time for the legendary 0verkill reads:
So, looking through 0verkill's posts, there is a lot of apprehension to lynch whoever the latest wagon is. Including ph0ne and me. They were extremely strong on standing with their votes and consistently said whomever they voted for was scum no matter what.
If 0verkill is scum, then Chemist is probably scum buddy as 0verkill constantly defends Chemist

I mean my reads have lined up alot with Chemists so I would give you that but Chemist is confirmed town.
Also I stand reasonably strong on most votes I make.

Chemist is confirmed town from the roleblock I assume? What if they weren't actually roleblocked and are lying?
Also, those points only stand if Chemist is confirmed bc of roleblock

I mean ive done the same thing in other games.
But its too risky to take this early on due to the fact they would be killed late game most likely, and im not trusting any further ones most likely unless they make sense from a scum PoV

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 11:54 pm
by Eragon1329
FML I got caught up doing things and only got 4 done.

I’ll try to finish it up tommroow and post them all.

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 11:55 pm
by Eragon1329
0verki11 wrote:
Eragon1329 wrote:Is kears always this cheerful?

from what I remember yes


Kay

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 11:58 pm
by Eragon1329
Bodhrak wrote:
Eragon1329 wrote:i don't disagree about Joeshe/Righto but if you think they will probably flip town(implied by PL) then don't lynch them, especially not yet.

info isn't the only reason to lynch someone.
Its a good addition to a lynch, but the main reason to lynch someone is because you think they are scum

If juve doesn't give us info, how does righto/joeshe?

As explained before I doubt both of them are scum so if one gets a redflip it semi-clears the other for me.
If they flip town, then we have at least a target for tommorow should nothing else arise (like a TI info or some scummy behavior).

Juve doesn't give me info as almost everyone has scumread them at some point, so whatever they flip we can only analyse votes, if anything.
And said fact also makes me lean more on the town side and less on the bussed by his buddies side.


But if they are both town your suggested “PL” makes 2 mislynches in a row if we chose to believe that.

Also, if you think someone is scum, fuck the info and just lynch them so we see blood(red flip).

also, if you think righto is defending juvenile(as stated by your post above the quoted), and you think they are both mafia, then that wouldn’t be “all the buddies bussing juve” that would be “one buddy is scumreading juve, or even less if someone else inactive is scum”

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 12:23 am
by Eragon1329
JuvenileFourtyTwo wrote:Okay. Time for the legendary 0verkill reads:
So, looking through 0verkill's posts, there is a lot of apprehension to lynch whoever the latest wagon is. Including ph0ne and me. They were extremely strong on standing with their votes and consistently said whomever they voted for was scum no matter what.
If 0verkill is scum, then Chemist is probably scum buddy as 0verkill constantly defends Chemist


Wdym apphrehension to lynch whoever the latest wagon is?

Since you brought up yourself and Ph0ne, I believe you mean they are eager to get a lynch quickly, or eager to lynch the easy targets?

If that’s the case then.
what about Righto/Flint:/Joeshe hopping on Ph0ne/tilted/yourself when the wagons are up?


Hell what about you screaming for Mario to get quicklynched??

If 0ver is scum for being eager to lynch people, that means there are 5+ scum this game, including you(!)

Also chemist is basically confirmed town, so defending them isn’t THAT big of a deal?

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 12:25 am
by Eragon1329
JuvenileFourtyTwo wrote:
0verki11 wrote:
JuvenileFourtyTwo wrote:
0verki11 wrote:
JuvenileFourtyTwo wrote:Okay. Time for the legendary 0verkill reads:
So, looking through 0verkill's posts, there is a lot of apprehension to lynch whoever the latest wagon is. Including ph0ne and me. They were extremely strong on standing with their votes and consistently said whomever they voted for was scum no matter what.
If 0verkill is scum, then Chemist is probably scum buddy as 0verkill constantly defends Chemist

I mean my reads have lined up alot with Chemists so I would give you that but Chemist is confirmed town.
Also I stand reasonably strong on most votes I make.

Chemist is confirmed town from the roleblock I assume? What if they weren't actually roleblocked and are lying?
Also, those points only stand if Chemist is confirmed bc of roleblock

I mean ive done the same thing in other games.
But its too risky to take this early on due to the fact they would be killed late game most likely, and im not trusting any further ones most likely unless they make sense from a scum PoV

Actually, I think it's better to doubt those claims in the beginning since those claims hold way more value later in the game. I think I know where I'm sitting my vote for now.
/vote Chemist



Theres a HUGE difference between doubting a claim and wanting to lynch someone becuase they claimed roleblcoked

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 12:32 am
by rightodude
Bodhrak wrote:
rightodude wrote:Personally I don’t think that there is enough evidence towards tilted being scum. That “d00d” post was scummy but I don’t think that it automatically makes him mafia, he might just have reads towards him thinking that he’s mafia? Still not sure about that post but everyone makes mistakes. If I had to vote right now it would be on tilted or juve. Probs tilted

So you don't think there is evidence on Tilted and you'd still vote Tilted over Juvenile. Hm.
That seems almost like a half-assed defense for Juve.

I'm saying that because I think that tilted seems scummier. I'm not trying to defend juve because they're also scummy.

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:49 am
by Chemist1422
laughs in confirmed town

Let’s talk this through, though. Why are you voting me based on tinfoil?

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:57 am
by Chemist1422
JuvenileFourtyTwo wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:laughs in confirmed town

Let’s talk this through, though. Why are you voting me based on tinfoil?

Because, if anyone CC's your roleblocked claim, then there's the chance you are mafia, just clearing my name if that happens to come up.

Why are you going out of your way to clear yourself through associations instead of doing it with your posts?

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:33 am
by MoustachioMario
Chemist1422 wrote:laughs in confirmed town

Let’s talk this through, though. Why are you voting me based on tinfoil?


I still don't see how you are confirmed town

Laughs in modconfirmed town

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 1

PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 9:13 am
by Varanus
Current Vote Count
Player Votes Voters
  # Votes Until Majority


Not voting:
rightodude, Joeshe, Eragon1329, Bodhrak


End of Day 2:


Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:45 am
by MoustachioMario
Bodhrak is town ;)

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:50 am
by Joeshe
Chemist care to explain how you're confirmed town?
There are so many new pages whenever I return so I end up skimming instead of reading.

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:53 am
by Chemist1422
Joeshe wrote:Chemist care to explain how you're confirmed town?
There are so many new pages whenever I return so I end up skimming instead of reading.

Roleblocked by a consort

There’s a possibility I’m lying but any mafia experienced enough to try it knows it probably won’t work