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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 9:51 pm
by Flint9
I had nothing happen to me during night time.

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 10:21 pm
by Kears123
Flint9 wrote:I had nothing happen to me during night time.


That's good! Who do you think is scum/mafia and why?

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 10:31 pm
by MoustachioMario
Tiltedcomedian wrote:
Bodhrak wrote:
Tiltedcomedian wrote:dw you'll get used to it

trying to logic me will only give you a headache

Oh, you're also Mario now?


r00d

but no Mario is beyond logic and gut both


*Mission Success*

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 10:35 pm
by Flint9
Kears123 wrote:
Flint9 wrote:I had nothing happen to me during night time.


That's good! Who do you think is scum/mafia and why?


I think that Tilted is scum, as he seems to be meming even after D1, and he seems to be trying to just shut down all accusations about him without good reasoning.

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 10:37 pm
by Flint9
/vote Tiltedcomedian

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 10:56 pm
by MoustachioMario
Flint9 wrote:
Kears123 wrote:
Flint9 wrote:I had nothing happen to me during night time.


That's good! Who do you think is scum/mafia and why?


I think that Tilted is scum, as he seems to be meming even after D1, and he seems to be trying to just shut down all accusations about him without good reasoning.


I think TC is scum because I feel there is only 1 scum between {Chemist, Eragon, TC} and TC is the best choice

TP on me tonight ;)

if TI is LO then Lookout on me to to confirm TP and self ;D

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 1

PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 11:00 pm
by Varanus
Current Vote Count
Player Votes Voters
  # Votes Until Majority


Not voting:
rightodude, Joeshe, Eragon1329, JuvenileFourtyTwo


End of Day 2:


Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 11:09 pm
by MoustachioMario
I think TP should not be on me tonight.

All I am is a cit, so if TP can stop another attack we can confirm them not mafia too :D

Also if I die all you lost was a confirmed cit

PR more important that cit

TP save PR

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 11:55 pm
by JuvenileFourtyTwo
Flint9 wrote:
Kears123 wrote:
Flint9 wrote:I had nothing happen to me during night time.


That's good! Who do you think is scum/mafia and why?


I think that Tilted is scum, as he seems to be meming even after D1, and he seems to be trying to just shut down all accusations about him without good reasoning.

To be fair, I'm basically doing the same thing.

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 12:00 am
by Tiltedcomedian
MoustachioMario wrote:I think TP should not be on me tonight.

All I am is a cit, so if TP can stop another attack we can confirm them not mafia too :D

Also if I die all you lost was a confirmed cit

PR more important that cit

TP save PR


the hell kind of plan is that

don't announce or even suggest who TPro is or isn't on

mafia already have an information advantage, give them something to puzzle over right back

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 12:02 am
by Tiltedcomedian
Flint9 wrote:
Kears123 wrote:
Flint9 wrote:I had nothing happen to me during night time.


That's good! Who do you think is scum/mafia and why?


I think that Tilted is scum, as he seems to be meming even after D1, and he seems to be trying to just shut down all accusations about him without good reasoning.




problem with that is... I tend to meme as town, and even more so if I'm town with an effect because then I don't have to do shit to prove I'm town

reading what I say is a bad idea, read what I'm doing instead

have fun trying to figure out if that's a PR soft or not mafia ♥

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 12:04 am
by Tiltedcomedian
Tiltedcomedian wrote:
Flint9 wrote:
Kears123 wrote:
Flint9 wrote:I had nothing happen to me during night time.


That's good! Who do you think is scum/mafia and why?


I think that Tilted is scum, as he seems to be meming even after D1, and he seems to be trying to just shut down all accusations about him without good reasoning.




problem with that is... I tend to meme as town, and even more so if I'm town with an effect because then I don't have to do shit to prove I'm town

reading what I say is a bad idea, read what I'm doing instead

have fun trying to figure out if that's a PR soft or not mafia ♥


to add on to this

99% of the time you will not be able to read someone because you don't know them well enough, and then you get rekt because you don't think like the other person does so you don't approach being townie in the same way

this was a huge issue between me and Koolkid in SFM 51

so don't think about surface speech, think about what's motivating them to say or do something in particular and use that to judge

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 12:05 am
by Tiltedcomedian
also Mario is still a potato

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 12:21 am
by rightodude
Tiltedcomedian wrote:also Mario is still a potato

By potato do you mean town?

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 12:26 am
by 0verki11
JuvenileFourtyTwo wrote:
Flint9 wrote:
Kears123 wrote:
Flint9 wrote:I had nothing happen to me during night time.


That's good! Who do you think is scum/mafia and why?


I think that Tilted is scum, as he seems to be meming even after D1, and he seems to be trying to just shut down all accusations about him without good reasoning.

To be fair, I'm basically doing the same thing.

saying stuff like this just makes me want to lynch you more
No this is not a prodge

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 12:33 am
by 0verki11
rightodude wrote:
Tiltedcomedian wrote:also Mario is still a potato

By potato do you mean town?

what were ur night results?

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 12:49 am
by rightodude
0verki11 wrote:
rightodude wrote:
Tiltedcomedian wrote:also Mario is still a potato

By potato do you mean town?

what were ur night results?

SP

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 1:35 am
by Bodhrak
Chemist1422 wrote:
Bodhrak wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:I don't think PLing is the best idea, and it could probably come from scum!Bodhrak

Who do you want to lynch rn?

My vote sits on Tilted and it will stay there for the next hours - where I'll be sleeping.

Do you think my flip would give you any info?

Why do you care about info? I don't think this is a towny defense, as town would find genuine reasons that they're town.

Info is imho the only thing you should care about. Ever.
Look at D1 and tell me what phone's lynch gave us.

I am convinced not going for a PL puts town at a severe disadvantage.

And you not seeing that makes me believe you are scum posting from a point where you feel really save through your roleblock claim.
Maybe you are a consig and already found the TI to be shut down tonight leaving us with no way to prove your claim.
If you are scum going for me as one of the most active town is the obvious move.

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 1:36 am
by Bodhrak
Kears123 wrote:Night results:

Flint9 -
rightodude -
Bodhrak -
Joeshe -
JuvenileFourtyTwo -
Kears123 - SP
0verki11 - SP
MoustachioMario - Knows no one visited him last night
Chemist1422 - rbed
TiltedComedian -
Eragon1329 - SP

5/11 claimed night results

I said SP in my first post D2.

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 1:40 am
by Bodhrak
Tiltedcomedian wrote:
the hell kind of plan is that

don't announce or even suggest who TPro is or isn't on

mafia already have an information advantage, give them something to puzzle over right back

100% agreed here, for a change.

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 1:45 am
by Bodhrak
Tiltedcomedian wrote:99% of the time you will not be able to read someone because you don't know them well enough, and then you get rekt because you don't think like the other person does so you don't approach being townie in the same way

this was a huge issue between me and Koolkid in SFM 51

so don't think about surface speech, think about what's motivating them to say or do something in particular and use that to judge

Thanks for nothing.

You see the problem is:
This is a NFM, half the players don't know the game, let alone each other, so pushing your "gut reading town" meta on the offchance that players catch your cues here only makes you scum and nothing else.
So you either play along and give us some logic or can die.

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 7:14 am
by Chemist1422
Bodhrak wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
Bodhrak wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:I don't think PLing is the best idea, and it could probably come from scum!Bodhrak

Who do you want to lynch rn?

My vote sits on Tilted and it will stay there for the next hours - where I'll be sleeping.

Do you think my flip would give you any info?

Why do you care about info? I don't think this is a towny defense, as town would find genuine reasons that they're town.

Info is imho the only thing you should care about. Ever.
Look at D1 and tell me what phone's lynch gave us.

I am convinced not going for a PL puts town at a severe disadvantage.

And you not seeing that makes me believe you are scum posting from a point where you feel really save through your roleblock claim.
Maybe you are a consig and already found the TI to be shut down tonight leaving us with no way to prove your claim.
If you are scum going for me as one of the most active town is the obvious move.

No

The only thing you should care about is lynching mafia

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:05 am
by Bodhrak
Chemist1422 wrote:No

The only thing you should care about is lynching mafia

Disagreed.
If I knew who was scum then I'd go for the lynch. But right now I can only guess.
I'd like to avoid a scenario where the only town left is a few "noobs" facing off against experienced mafia players.

With all these new players I can not tell if they are being barely active because they want to avoid making mistakes (that would reveal them as scum) or because they just don't really care or have no time.
I can't tell if they're sheeping because they are being told to do so by a scumbuddy or because they just don't know any better.
The only thing I can tell is they are not actively defending each other, which makes me believe that
{righto, Joeshe} only contains one scum at most with {flint} possibly being another.

Righto has failed to scumread Juvenile which could make them scumbuddies.
Currently I'd go with righto as PL.

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:45 am
by Bodhrak
@Var

There are no forced replacements for receiving multiple prod in NFM, correct?

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 11:04 am
by JuvenileFourtyTwo
0verki11 wrote:
JuvenileFourtyTwo wrote:
Flint9 wrote:
Kears123 wrote:
Flint9 wrote:I had nothing happen to me during night time.


That's good! Who do you think is scum/mafia and why?


I think that Tilted is scum, as he seems to be meming even after D1, and he seems to be trying to just shut down all accusations about him without good reasoning.

To be fair, I'm basically doing the same thing.

saying stuff like this just makes me want to lynch you more
No this is not a prodge

I'm just saying that I'm aware what I'm doing is scummy and that I am trying to fix that. And also saying that if you're going to lynch Tilted for that you may as well lynch me as well.