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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 12:33 am
by 0verki11
rightodude wrote:
Tiltedcomedian wrote:also Mario is still a potato

By potato do you mean town?

what were ur night results?

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 12:49 am
by rightodude
0verki11 wrote:
rightodude wrote:
Tiltedcomedian wrote:also Mario is still a potato

By potato do you mean town?

what were ur night results?

SP

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 1:35 am
by Bodhrak
Chemist1422 wrote:
Bodhrak wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:I don't think PLing is the best idea, and it could probably come from scum!Bodhrak

Who do you want to lynch rn?

My vote sits on Tilted and it will stay there for the next hours - where I'll be sleeping.

Do you think my flip would give you any info?

Why do you care about info? I don't think this is a towny defense, as town would find genuine reasons that they're town.

Info is imho the only thing you should care about. Ever.
Look at D1 and tell me what phone's lynch gave us.

I am convinced not going for a PL puts town at a severe disadvantage.

And you not seeing that makes me believe you are scum posting from a point where you feel really save through your roleblock claim.
Maybe you are a consig and already found the TI to be shut down tonight leaving us with no way to prove your claim.
If you are scum going for me as one of the most active town is the obvious move.

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 1:36 am
by Bodhrak
Kears123 wrote:Night results:

Flint9 -
rightodude -
Bodhrak -
Joeshe -
JuvenileFourtyTwo -
Kears123 - SP
0verki11 - SP
MoustachioMario - Knows no one visited him last night
Chemist1422 - rbed
TiltedComedian -
Eragon1329 - SP

5/11 claimed night results

I said SP in my first post D2.

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 1:40 am
by Bodhrak
Tiltedcomedian wrote:
the hell kind of plan is that

don't announce or even suggest who TPro is or isn't on

mafia already have an information advantage, give them something to puzzle over right back

100% agreed here, for a change.

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 1:45 am
by Bodhrak
Tiltedcomedian wrote:99% of the time you will not be able to read someone because you don't know them well enough, and then you get rekt because you don't think like the other person does so you don't approach being townie in the same way

this was a huge issue between me and Koolkid in SFM 51

so don't think about surface speech, think about what's motivating them to say or do something in particular and use that to judge

Thanks for nothing.

You see the problem is:
This is a NFM, half the players don't know the game, let alone each other, so pushing your "gut reading town" meta on the offchance that players catch your cues here only makes you scum and nothing else.
So you either play along and give us some logic or can die.

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 7:14 am
by Chemist1422
Bodhrak wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
Bodhrak wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:I don't think PLing is the best idea, and it could probably come from scum!Bodhrak

Who do you want to lynch rn?

My vote sits on Tilted and it will stay there for the next hours - where I'll be sleeping.

Do you think my flip would give you any info?

Why do you care about info? I don't think this is a towny defense, as town would find genuine reasons that they're town.

Info is imho the only thing you should care about. Ever.
Look at D1 and tell me what phone's lynch gave us.

I am convinced not going for a PL puts town at a severe disadvantage.

And you not seeing that makes me believe you are scum posting from a point where you feel really save through your roleblock claim.
Maybe you are a consig and already found the TI to be shut down tonight leaving us with no way to prove your claim.
If you are scum going for me as one of the most active town is the obvious move.

No

The only thing you should care about is lynching mafia

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:05 am
by Bodhrak
Chemist1422 wrote:No

The only thing you should care about is lynching mafia

Disagreed.
If I knew who was scum then I'd go for the lynch. But right now I can only guess.
I'd like to avoid a scenario where the only town left is a few "noobs" facing off against experienced mafia players.

With all these new players I can not tell if they are being barely active because they want to avoid making mistakes (that would reveal them as scum) or because they just don't really care or have no time.
I can't tell if they're sheeping because they are being told to do so by a scumbuddy or because they just don't know any better.
The only thing I can tell is they are not actively defending each other, which makes me believe that
{righto, Joeshe} only contains one scum at most with {flint} possibly being another.

Righto has failed to scumread Juvenile which could make them scumbuddies.
Currently I'd go with righto as PL.

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:45 am
by Bodhrak
@Var

There are no forced replacements for receiving multiple prod in NFM, correct?

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 12:21 pm
by rightodude
Bodhrak wrote:
Kears123 wrote:Night results:

Flint9 -
rightodude -
Bodhrak -
Joeshe -
JuvenileFourtyTwo -
Kears123 - SP
0verki11 - SP
MoustachioMario - Knows no one visited him last night
Chemist1422 - rbed
TiltedComedian -
Eragon1329 - SP

5/11 claimed night results

I said SP in my first post D2.

I SP’d

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 12:35 pm
by Eragon1329
ok time to get my shit together this game.

I'll catchup from where i left off then ISO dive

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 12:39 pm
by Eragon1329
JuvenileFourtyTwo wrote:Tilted read:
Okay, I've been looking through Tilted's iso and something rings to me "Hey, don't trust this d00d." Maybe it has something to do with being unable to tell the difference between meme responses and non-meme responses, but it just feels off to me.

More reads coming soong


idk, but i think this post is fairly opportunistic.

Like, it doesnt give much of a reason except "oh i cant decide if its a meme or not but i still think tilted is gut scum" and it came after not really saying anything about tilted this game, and comes a couple posts after bodhrak pushes on tilted and the tilted wagon gains traction.

It doesn't bring anything new to the table, while at the same time makes it seem like more people think tilted is scum.

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 12:40 pm
by Eragon1329
Is kears always this cheerful?

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 12:43 pm
by Eragon1329
Bodhrak wrote:I'm not even sure if everyone has posted their night results?
But it pretty much should be SP across the board.

I guess now we wait for flint or their replacement.
Then go with a PL.


we aren't PL'ing, especially not D2 after a town flip D1

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 12:44 pm
by rightodude
Personally I don’t think that there is enough evidence towards tilted being scum. That “d00d” post was scummy but I don’t think that it automatically makes him mafia, he might just have reads towards him thinking that he’s mafia? Still not sure about that post but everyone makes mistakes. If I had to vote right now it would be on tilted or juve. Probs tilted

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 12:45 pm
by Eragon1329
Bodhrak wrote:
Kears123 wrote:
Bodhrak wrote:I'm not even sure if everyone has posted their night results?
But it pretty much should be SP across the board.

I guess now we wait for flint or their replacement.
Then go with a PL.


I think everyone should be good, Chemist is the only one who said he was roleblocked. I can check for night results too. brb

Who would you want to PL and what makes you think they could be a PL?

One of the new players. Joeshe or righto.
They are barely contributing and if they do, they prefer to follow wagons or being lead by others and that is really bad lategame.

I still scumread Juve, but lynching him now doesn't give us a lot of info.


i don't disagree about Joeshe/Righto but if you think they will probably flip town(implied by PL) then don't lynch them, especially not yet.

info isn't the only reason to lynch someone.
Its a good addition to a lynch, but the main reason to lynch someone is because you think they are scum

If juve doesn't give us info, how does righto/joeshe?

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 12:47 pm
by Eragon1329
Flint9 wrote:
Kears123 wrote:
Flint9 wrote:I had nothing happen to me during night time.


That's good! Who do you think is scum/mafia and why?


I think that Tilted is scum, as he seems to be meming even after D1, and he seems to be trying to just shut down all accusations about him without good reasoning.


basically the same boat as Juve here.

tilted has been getting a lot of pressure for memeing the last page or two, and basically repeating the same thing and hopping on the wagon feels opportunistic

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 12:51 pm
by Tiltedcomedian
@Bodhrak I mean, yeah, that's kinda what we're here for :P

I play differently from most of the other people here, so you don't have to use my approach /shrug.

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 12:59 pm
by Bodhrak
Tiltedcomedian wrote:@Bodhrak I mean, yeah, that's kinda what we're here for :P

I play differently from most of the other people here, so you don't have to use my approach /shrug.

Fine, you're off the hook for now.
/vote unvote

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 1:03 pm
by Eragon1329
damn i forgot how long ISO's take ;_;

I've only done 2 so far

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 1

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 1:19 pm
by Varanus
Current Vote Count
Player Votes Voters
  # Votes Until Majority


Not voting:
rightodude, Joeshe, Eragon1329, JuvenileFourtyTwo, Bodhrak


End of Day 2:


Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 2:10 pm
by 0verki11
Eragon1329 wrote:Is kears always this cheerful?

from what I remember yes

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 4:41 pm
by Bodhrak
rightodude wrote:Personally I don’t think that there is enough evidence towards tilted being scum. That “d00d” post was scummy but I don’t think that it automatically makes him mafia, he might just have reads towards him thinking that he’s mafia? Still not sure about that post but everyone makes mistakes. If I had to vote right now it would be on tilted or juve. Probs tilted

So you don't think there is evidence on Tilted and you'd still vote Tilted over Juvenile. Hm.
That seems almost like a half-assed defense for Juve.

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 4:49 pm
by Bodhrak
Eragon1329 wrote:i don't disagree about Joeshe/Righto but if you think they will probably flip town(implied by PL) then don't lynch them, especially not yet.

info isn't the only reason to lynch someone.
Its a good addition to a lynch, but the main reason to lynch someone is because you think they are scum

If juve doesn't give us info, how does righto/joeshe?

As explained before I doubt both of them are scum so if one gets a redflip it semi-clears the other for me.
If they flip town, then we have at least a target for tommorow should nothing else arise (like a TI info or some scummy behavior).

Juve doesn't give me info as almost everyone has scumread them at some point, so whatever they flip we can only analyse votes, if anything.
And said fact also makes me lean more on the town side and less on the bussed by his buddies side.

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 4:51 pm
by Bodhrak
Bach to my workday schedule.

For now I'm gonna

vote /rightodude

And get to sleep.