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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 3

Postby rightodude » Fri Feb 08, 2019 2:08 pm

MoustachioMario wrote:this is going so slow

it's what happens when everyone is dead
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 3

Postby Bodhrak » Fri Feb 08, 2019 2:27 pm

rightodude wrote:
MoustachioMario wrote:this is going so slow

it's what happens when everyone is dead

More like a mix of timezones and people being barely active.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 3

Postby 0verki11 » Fri Feb 08, 2019 2:49 pm

rightodude wrote:
MoustachioMario wrote:Someone say something

hello, I just woke up lmao. it seems like everyone is pushing kears. can I get a quick explanation why?

Kears and Righto are obvious scum here.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 3

Postby rightodude » Fri Feb 08, 2019 3:37 pm

0verki11 wrote:
rightodude wrote:
MoustachioMario wrote:Someone say something

hello, I just woke up lmao. it seems like everyone is pushing kears. can I get a quick explanation why?

Kears and Righto are obvious scum here.
Dont quickhammer though.

what does quickhammer mean? sorry for my noobiness
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 3

Postby 0verki11 » Fri Feb 08, 2019 3:43 pm

rightodude wrote:
0verki11 wrote:
rightodude wrote:
MoustachioMario wrote:Someone say something

hello, I just woke up lmao. it seems like everyone is pushing kears. can I get a quick explanation why?

Kears and Righto are obvious scum here.
Dont quickhammer though.

what does quickhammer mean? sorry for my noobiness

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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 3

Postby rightodude » Fri Feb 08, 2019 3:43 pm

0verki11 wrote:
rightodude wrote:
0verki11 wrote:
rightodude wrote:
MoustachioMario wrote:Someone say something

hello, I just woke up lmao. it seems like everyone is pushing kears. can I get a quick explanation why?

Kears and Righto are obvious scum here.
Dont quickhammer though.

what does quickhammer mean? sorry for my noobiness

lynching quickly, cutting down discussion time.

oh ok, thanks. I thought it was something along the lines of that
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 3

Postby Bodhrak » Fri Feb 08, 2019 3:57 pm

/vote unvote
for now.

My vote on righto wasn't counted anyway.

Also don't forget
MoustachioMario wrote:over does not exist


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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 3

Postby Joeshe » Fri Feb 08, 2019 4:50 pm

Wait why are we voting Kears? If it's to bait mag that's kinda a bad play and scummy (could end up as a myslynch)
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 3

Postby Kears123 » Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:13 pm

HI I'm here.

I'm gonna answer Mario first.
If you play with someone called "Psychic" there's a 90% chance you found me! :)

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Spoiler: 1. 5C, Spy, Mafia win! Absolute NOOB....
2. NFM59, citizen, Mafia won!
3. NFM60 Godfather, town win!
4. 16E Escort, Mafia wins!
5. NFM61 Citizen Town twins!
6. NFM62 Citizen Mafia won!
7. VFM39 ???


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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 3

Postby 0verki11 » Fri Feb 08, 2019 7:10 pm

Joeshe wrote:Wait why are we voting Kears? If it's to bait mag that's kinda a bad play and scummy (could end up as a myslynch)

????
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 2

Postby Kears123 » Fri Feb 08, 2019 7:30 pm

Sorry for the wall in advance.

MoustachioMario wrote:
Kears123 wrote:
Bodhrak wrote:
Kears123 wrote:
Bodhrak wrote:
Kears123 wrote:L-1

No L-2, Mario voted before.


Gotcha. What's Overs case?

Mine is that he gives us a ton of info whatever he flips and I like info.
No clue about the others though.


I see where you're coming from but if he is PR we lose neither TI or TP and if he's Cit we're one down.... I don't know if we can risk this.


pushing for a mislynch


Here I was NOT pushing for a mislynch. I was defending Over.

MoustachioMario wrote:
Kears123 wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:kears read is zzz

can you stop shading your wagon and actually do stuff, thanks


Sure.

Here's some quick reads:
T[Over, Chemist, Mario, Eragon]
ST[Joshe]
N[Tilted]
S[Jove, Righto, Flint]

Hold me to posting those reads tomorrow.


These seemed forced to me


Not forced However my reads have changed. Those reads were given on limited time. Now they are more thought out and detailed. I am sorry, I'm having a very off game. This is also my first game after ending up in the ER 2 weeks ago so yeah.

My readslist:

Flint9 - Town lean. Flint with 5 posts seems sort of townie however, I can't really read them yet, infact, I'm honestly not sure if they are scum not sure how to play or town with a low wim.

rightodude - Scumread. Hasn't provided any reads except for the thought process on phone.

Bodhrak - Town. Is consantly seen searching for scum here:

Bodhrak wrote:
Eragon1329 wrote:I dislike the fact that he keeps shading Juve like “Weak excuses/You are my top scumread, but doesn’t vote him, and instead votes the weaker pushes of Tilted and Righto.
His talk about PL’ing disgusts me, but I can kinda see it from a newbie perspective. Also all the lynching for info stuff, at times, that can be an ok play, but like 90% of the time you Lynch who you think flips scum.
Says that he leans more on the town side than the bussed side for juve, but still scum reads him?

About me not voting juve even though I scumread him: I heavily wanted to avoid another early hammer like D1.
My townread for Juve comes mostly from the amount of reads he's been getting.
Currently I can barely piece together a scumteam with him and as I said before I think a scumteam consisting of just new players is very unlikely to me.

I can see Tilted being scum as he is almost impossible to read for me: I don't see him play any different if he is scum.
I can see Kears being scum, he doesn't have all that much content.
I can still see Chemist being scum but only from a point of absolute power (like a scumteam with him, Eragon and Tilted/Over) - in that case I don't even think there's a point in playing anymore as this is a town loss 100%


Here:
Bodhrak wrote:
0verki11 wrote:But you voted for Juve instead of coming up with a counter wagon, also wolfy self vote please take it off.

Wait.
I tried to wagon Tilted but that didn't take off as apparently everyone agrees it's completely OK for him to play the way he does.
Then I tried to start a wagon on Righto and that went literally nowhere, even though I still think that would have been the safest option.
Then I was on board with a lynch on Overkill but Chemist/Eragon decided to go for Juve instead and with Chemist voting it didn't make a difference what I voted.
So I instead tried to hammer to go for a better EoD/SoD (for me), which didn't work out.
Should I have changed the vote to Over after Chemist did? Definitely, but there were only like 30s left when I saw and I couldn't make up my mind and post before the time ran out.

Eragon1329 wrote:how is it PoE? Do you think all of (Righto, Joeshe, Flint, Kears) are 100% town???

wdym by "him turning out to be TP was obviously what had to happen."

I can all see them being town and I don't see a lot of possible combinations where they would be scum.
Going from reads and interactions I don't think {righto, Joeshe} are a team or Kears with either of them. Flint I can literally say nothing about because of the lack of content.

What I meant was: This game is going to hell so fast obviously we are mislynching the one PR we have left.
Eragon1329 wrote:Going deeper, i still feel like 0verki11 is in general towny *Enough* but being CFD'd onto town makes me doubt (Yes, i know i was an advocate of the CFD, so i can't really say anything, buts its something im keeping in mind)
Flint and Joeshe are basically empty slots that haven't done anything. Joeshe said hes not active but "active enough" i certainly havent seen that. Flint is MIA.
Kears i kinda agree with 0ver about the wall and refusing to make solid reads, instead just reactioning and posting without conviction.
and righto i think has one of the scummier ISO's right now, but also newbie so im doubting my reads after juvenile flipping town.

Under this ^, im assuming
1)Mario is town (technically this is confirmed, not an assumption, but whatever)
2)I am town
3)Bodhrak is town
4)Tilted is town

I still don't have a clue how you townread Tilted.
Tilted's ISO if you take out all the memeing and him defending the way he "gut reads" then you are left with about the same thing as flint: Basically nothing. With the difference that Tilted is an experienced players that know very well what he is doing.
0verki11 wrote:there is absolutly no way my wagon is pure here btw.

Wrong btw. The wagon on you {Juve, Mario, Chemist, me} was all town.


His iso overall feels like town to me.

Joeshe - Scum lean. What pings me about this post is the fact that he feels the need to explain why he is inactive.

Joeshe wrote:Oof but I keep explaining why I'm not contributing every single post. I am a busy man with a life and get on whenever I can. For right now, I am feeling like we should vote juve (REASON: he keeps scum reading with out solid proof nor argument) yet im not going to because I want to wait and see if anyone else appears scummy.


Didn't want to vote Juve because they wanted expirenced players input is kinda townie however I'm confused because he clearly wants to vote them because they think juve was scum but didn't vote him witch seems the oppisite of what a town would do if they truely thought someone was actually scum.

0verki11 - Town. I feel this is town for pushing on who he feels shows scummy intent. EX: Phone, Jeuv, Mario and me.

MoustachioMario - Mod confirmed town

TiltedComedian - Scum. Has a lot of fluffy posts that have next to no content, since I replaced in, I'm not sure when exactly meme phase was over but in that same breath, they have contentful posts as well.

One esample of a none contentfully post:

Tiltedcomedian wrote:
JuvenileFourtyTwo wrote:How much of that was a meme and how much of it wasn't...


yes

with 3 you get egg roll


Tiltedcomedian wrote:/vote Mario


Tiltedcomedian wrote:where's SofiaShe when you need her

/vote Bodhrak


Few unexplained votes ^

Calls mario a potato... and theres no reads at all.


Eragon1329 - Town read overall. Seems to still be game sloving and posted really really long detailed reads.


My POE would be Tilted/Righto/Flint/Eragon.

MoustachioMario wrote:
Kears123 wrote:Night results:

Flint9 -
rightodude -
Bodhrak -
Joeshe -
JuvenileFourtyTwo -
Kears123 - SP
0verki11 - SP
MoustachioMario - Knows no one visited him last night
Chemist1422 - rbed
TiltedComedian -
Eragon1329 - SP

5/11 claimed night results


Trying to be towny

This should 100% be our lynch today


Trying to be townie although I am town????

MoustachioMario wrote:Kears should claim

Kears123 wrote:I see where you're coming from but if he is PR we lose neither TI or TP and if he's Cit we're one down.... I don't know if we can risk this.


I'm Citizen.

/vote Tilted
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Spoiler: 1. 5C, Spy, Mafia win! Absolute NOOB....
2. NFM59, citizen, Mafia won!
3. NFM60 Godfather, town win!
4. 16E Escort, Mafia wins!
5. NFM61 Citizen Town twins!
6. NFM62 Citizen Mafia won!
7. VFM39 ???


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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 3

Postby Kears123 » Fri Feb 08, 2019 7:32 pm

0verki11 wrote:
Joeshe wrote:Wait why are we voting Kears? If it's to bait mag that's kinda a bad play and scummy (could end up as a myslynch)

????


OVer thinks I'm scum due to a meta read... His read is incorrect.
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FM Record:
Spoiler: 1. 5C, Spy, Mafia win! Absolute NOOB....
2. NFM59, citizen, Mafia won!
3. NFM60 Godfather, town win!
4. 16E Escort, Mafia wins!
5. NFM61 Citizen Town twins!
6. NFM62 Citizen Mafia won!
7. VFM39 ???


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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 3

Postby Tiltedcomedian » Fri Feb 08, 2019 7:36 pm

Hi I SP

I also got really busy so I'm replacing out

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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 3

Postby Kears123 » Fri Feb 08, 2019 7:40 pm

Tiltedcomedian wrote:Hi I SP

I also got really busy so I'm replacing out

bye


Okay, I hope you're well
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FM Record:
Spoiler: 1. 5C, Spy, Mafia win! Absolute NOOB....
2. NFM59, citizen, Mafia won!
3. NFM60 Godfather, town win!
4. 16E Escort, Mafia wins!
5. NFM61 Citizen Town twins!
6. NFM62 Citizen Mafia won!
7. VFM39 ???


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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 3

Postby 0verki11 » Fri Feb 08, 2019 7:47 pm

Tiltedcomedian wrote:Hi I SP

I also got really busy so I'm replacing out

bye

..... noones going to want to join this game
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 3

Postby Eragon1329 » Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:06 pm

I had a... rough day today, and will be busy tommorow, so I probably won’t have time to be active until mid-afternoon tommorow.

I might be around to make a few mobile posts for anything super-important, but ye.

Sorry about that.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 3

Postby Kears123 » Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:29 pm

Eragon1329 wrote:I had a... rough day today, and will be busy tommorow, so I probably won’t have time to be active until mid-afternoon tommorow.

I might be around to make a few mobile posts for anything super-important, but ye.

Sorry about that.



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Spoiler: 1. 5C, Spy, Mafia win! Absolute NOOB....
2. NFM59, citizen, Mafia won!
3. NFM60 Godfather, town win!
4. 16E Escort, Mafia wins!
5. NFM61 Citizen Town twins!
6. NFM62 Citizen Mafia won!
7. VFM39 ???


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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 1

Postby Varanus » Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:32 pm

Current Vote Count
Player Votes Voters
  # Votes Until Majority


Not voting:
Joeshe, Eragon1329, 0verki11, rightodude, [TiltedComedian], Bodhrak


End of Day 3:



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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 3

Postby Flint9 » Sat Feb 09, 2019 12:05 am

I will likely start to be a lot more active today, as it's the weekend for me
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 3

Postby Bodhrak » Sat Feb 09, 2019 5:14 am

Let's do another round of deep reading and analysis

Flint
Barely any content even though they have shown to be present, wagon votes seem opportunistic, but also quite the noob.
Conclusion: Scumlean, possible scumbuddies {basically everyone, a few players have tried to distance themselves, but that can very much be on purpose}

rightodude
Lots of "pointing out the obvious", sheep votes, but at least has some reason behind them as well as lacking understanding of the game. Their "defense on Juve" is void as Juve flipped town. I doubt they are actively fishing for towncred as scum, so I give them the benefit of the doubt.
Conclusion: Slight scumlean, possible scumbuddies {flint, (Eragon?)}

Joeshe
Not a lot of content here, but some posts seem very noob-town. Very weak defense on Kears. Has not voted anyone all game but phone and that vote could be seen as opportunistic.
Conclusion: Null, possible scumbuddies {flint, Kears, Tilted, Over}

Kears
Missing D1. Lots of posts that try to gain towncred or are just "friendly". First round of reads look opportunistic, second is not that much better.
Conclusion: Scumlean, possible scumbuddies {flint, (Joeshe?)}

Overkill
Doesn't exist. :lol: Tries to grab towncred a lot, but his reactions to being voted don't convince me and his reads seem opportunistic. Chemists seems convinced he would have been the better lynch due to changing last moment.
Conclusion: Scumlean, possible scumbuddies {flint, Joeshe, Eragon, Tilted}

Mario
Ultra scummy, good thing they are confirmed.

Tilted
As I said before: Not a lot of content, could be scummy, but they replaced out due to inactivity. So I'll reset their read for now.
Conclusion: Null, possible scumbuddies {flint, Joeshe, Over, Eragon}

Eragon
Lots of townish posts, but nothing that can't be faked. Tries to gamesolve, but also seems to follow some agenda.
Conclusion: Slight townlean, possible scumbuddies {flint, Over, Tilted}

Myself
Ultra scummy. Volume posts like there is no tomorrow. Opportunistic votes. Distances themself from everyone. So self-aware they are self aware of being self-aware.
Conclusion: I'm town.

Overall:
Kears is a horrible lynch that gives us no info and has a high chance of being town.
Eragon is a good lynch that gives us decent info, but his townflip means we lose a valuable player.
As we have one mislynch left a semi-PL would be the safest option. Possible candidates: flint, [Tilted's replacement], (righto?)
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 3

Postby Flint9 » Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:50 am

From what I've seen so far, these are my leads:

Flint: Myself, admittedly very quiet, I wouldn't be surprised if I got PLed or killed by mafia because I'm likely not going to be healed.
RIghto: Slightly scummy, they have basically have been saying stuff everyone else has been saying and defended tilted a bit, and if they are scum, tilted is likely a scum buddy.
Bodhrak: Slightly scummy, they seem a lot more active then the rest of the newbies, suggesting that maybe they don't want to seem scummy from talking too little, and most of their main contrabutions are their leads on people, which they do often, and suggests that they are trying to seem towny. This could all be that they are a new player, and want to try to make sure that they aren't mislynched, so that's why it's only a slight scum lead.
Joeshe: Scummy, as they seem to be trying to explain why they aren't active so they can last late game, as people may think "They will likely be more active late game," and they have only a little more posts than me.
Kears: Scummy, as they seemed to act very, I guess mother-like to the new players like me, with their accusations it seems to be just pointing fingers at everyone, suggesting that they are trying to create chaos so mafia can live for longer. They only listed 3 people as town from their leads, being myself, Bodhrak and Over. The only person they defended is Overn If Kears is scum, Over and Bodhrak likely are to.
Over: Slighly scummy, as they seemed to be mainly saying things that others were as well.
Mario: Confirmed town, is acting really scummy, but that's prob because they're confirmed.
Tilted: Can't make reads on because they weren't really saying anything useful and they are getting replaced.
Eragon: I skipped the 1st 3 pages of his ISO because this has taken me half an hour to do so far. No read, but judging by the fact that I called practically everyone else slight scum, he could easily be town, as they basically just pushed on righto and juve, and juve was meming a lot so it makes sense that he seemed scummy.

All in all, I think that it's most likely that the mafia is Kears, Bodkrak and Over.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 3

Postby Bodhrak » Sat Feb 09, 2019 12:02 pm

Flint9 wrote:From what I've seen so far, these are my leads:

Flint: Myself, admittedly very quiet, I wouldn't be surprised if I got PLed or killed by mafia because I'm likely not going to be healed.
RIghto: Slightly scummy, they have basically have been saying stuff everyone else has been saying and defended tilted a bit, and if they are scum, tilted is likely a scum buddy.
Bodhrak: Slightly scummy, they seem a lot more active then the rest of the newbies, suggesting that maybe they don't want to seem scummy from talking too little, and most of their main contrabutions are their leads on people, which they do often, and suggests that they are trying to seem towny. This could all be that they are a new player, and want to try to make sure that they aren't mislynched, so that's why it's only a slight scum lead.
Joeshe: Scummy, as they seem to be trying to explain why they aren't active so they can last late game, as people may think "They will likely be more active late game," and they have only a little more posts than me.
Kears: Scummy, as they seemed to act very, I guess mother-like to the new players like me, with their accusations it seems to be just pointing fingers at everyone, suggesting that they are trying to create chaos so mafia can live for longer. They only listed 3 people as town from their leads, being myself, Bodhrak and Over. The only person they defended is Overn If Kears is scum, Over and Bodhrak likely are to.
Over: Slighly scummy, as they seemed to be mainly saying things that others were as well.
Mario: Confirmed town, is acting really scummy, but that's prob because they're confirmed.
Tilted: Can't make reads on because they weren't really saying anything useful and they are getting replaced.
Eragon: I skipped the 1st 3 pages of his ISO because this has taken me half an hour to do so far. No read, but judging by the fact that I called practically everyone else slight scum, he could easily be town, as they basically just pushed on righto and juve, and juve was meming a lot so it makes sense that he seemed scummy.

All in all, I think that it's most likely that the mafia is Kears, Bodkrak and Over.

One correction: All the PR are dead, noone is going to heal anybody.
And when it comes to mafia kills: The next target will obviously be Mario, due to them being confirmed. After that possibly me. Definitely noone that can be pushed to a mislynch easily.

Those reads are pretty close to mine, but the conclusion ... oh boy.
You think I'm in a team with Kears, who I scumread heavily and only want to not lynch because they lack a plausible scumteam.
And Over, who I was very much on board lynching yesterday.
Also Over who wanted to start a wagon on Kears and explained why he scumread Kears.

Nevermind, let's lynch Over then, I'm on board with that.

/vote Overki11
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 3

Postby MoustachioMario » Sat Feb 09, 2019 1:05 pm

0verki11 wrote:
rightodude wrote:
MoustachioMario wrote:Someone say something

hello, I just woke up lmao. it seems like everyone is pushing kears. can I get a quick explanation why?

Kears and Righto are obvious scum here.
Dont quickhammer though.


Kears is scum and righto is town
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 3

Postby Kears123 » Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:45 pm

MoustachioMario wrote:
0verki11 wrote:
rightodude wrote:
MoustachioMario wrote:Someone say something

hello, I just woke up lmao. it seems like everyone is pushing kears. can I get a quick explanation why?

Kears and Righto are obvious scum here.
Dont quickhammer though.


Kears is scum and righto is town


I'm not. Did you read what I posted?
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FM Record:
Spoiler: 1. 5C, Spy, Mafia win! Absolute NOOB....
2. NFM59, citizen, Mafia won!
3. NFM60 Godfather, town win!
4. 16E Escort, Mafia wins!
5. NFM61 Citizen Town twins!
6. NFM62 Citizen Mafia won!
7. VFM39 ???


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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 3

Postby 0verki11 » Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:38 pm

Kears123 wrote:
MoustachioMario wrote:
0verki11 wrote:
rightodude wrote:
MoustachioMario wrote:Someone say something

hello, I just woke up lmao. it seems like everyone is pushing kears. can I get a quick explanation why?

Kears and Righto are obvious scum here.
Dont quickhammer though.


Kears is scum and righto is town


I'm not. Did you read what I posted?

how does that post make you town?
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