SFM49 | League of Losers | Mafia Win

[FMLSheWas12]

Votecount V2.05

Current Vote Count

Player	Votes	Voters
	#	Votes Until Majority

[Chemist1422]

Yes, good.

[ChubbyMooshroom9]

/vote phone

[Eragon1329]

Lemme give my opinion on the wagons real quick, I'll be on later tonight.

Mario is a heavy T lean, hold
Chubby is strong T until proven otherwise, D1 wagoners are POI
No opinion on chaos yet

First real post, somehow has a heavy townlean in Mario, thinks chubby is strong town

Lemme give my opinion on the wagons real quick, I'll be on later tonight.

Mario is a heavy T lean, hold
Chubby is strong T until proven otherwise, D1 wagoners are POI
No opinion on chaos yet

Explain please. We almost have not seen anything from you this game.

This was easier when I was 19 and had all the time in the world.

But Mario's being pushed too hard too fast on flavor shit, and scum chubby doesnt act like this d1 afaik

MARIO IS BEING PUSHED TOO HARD ON FLAVOR SHIT????


What about Chaos(my slot) who had 3 people voting him becuase the rolecard isn’t purple??

Are you blind?

So that's why Mario's getting hella pushed huh...

/vote chaos

This vote is hella disgusting based off he townread on Mario for being pushed on “flavor shit” but not townreading chaos for being pushed on flavor shit

So that's why Mario's getting hella pushed huh...

/vote chaos

I don't like this vote, no explantion and im TRing Chaos currently anyway.
Spretnaz and Olly are my main scumreads currently and I don't mind lynching either at this stage.

He was unnecessarily pushing mario, who I'm still heavily TRing, and seemed like he was trying to ride chubbys coattails on it.

I'm trying to make sense of my results last night, I'll be honest that I didnt read most of the day yet

This is shade, saying “unnecessarily pushing Mario” which shuts down potential reads and discussion for no reason, and somehow townreads Mario still for being pushed based on flavor(which I still don’t think is true?) but voting chaos(even though he was being pushed for flavor)

Trying to ride chubby’s coattails I think Chaos was pushing Mario pretty hard and was the only person to MAKE A CASE that other people hadn’t brought up

If phoen01x was mafia idk why he would be talking about this in the thread, FML said they have daychat

I’m officially declaring these arguments retarded.
99% of time it’s something that just happens, like people rolefishing in main thread instead of tolefishin in mafia chat(see 16E may it R.I.P) and/or defending people for this reason(see 16D kmenx defending Julian[i think it was julian] for posting something that would only be posted in maf chat. Julian was town and kmenx was scum)

So IMO this confirms at least one of you/Ph0ne as scum

/vote Wabbit

I'm done with people trying to start wagons from dumb grasping at straws. Bye scum

Are you not sheeping Ph0ne Who is grasping at straws?
Contradiction
Hypocrite
“Bye scum” but saying “I’m done with people trying to start dumb wagons” which doesn’t really show a strong scumread, plus you still haven’t explained any reads or showed any progression
So this is jsut hopping on a wagon hoping for a mislynch

[Eragon1329]

Get fucked mobile I just posted that wall even though you tried to stop me HA

[Chemist1422]

I'd appreciate a protective on me tonight, I'm gonna use my second ability.

[Eragon1329]

K i have like 5 minutes before class so I’m not going to really do anything

AMA while I’m just lounging

[Eragon1329]

I'd appreciate a protective on me tonight, I'm gonna use my second ability.

O shit

[Eragon1329]

Ph0ne/Spretz buddy Ez money

[Phone0Ix]

Spoiler: Ph0ne-

I got up
* Olly is town I think - TR
* Kha also maybe - TL
* And Chaos also maybe - TL
No opinion on the others yet

Sorry for coming on so late, received the RC when I was almost going to bed yesterday and only checked it now because of school.

PS: I think the dayvig needed to shoot someone, not sure, but I saw a thread on tips to create a SFM to learn a bit what could happen and there was a dayvig there that needed to shoot d1, so maybe here one also?

PSS: Yea host the RC is in outbox because I checked it when I had 1 min

starts off with a post that already has 3 townreads, but no opinions on anyone else, and claims that the dayvig was required to shoot D1, which might be TMI? But even so, why would the vigi shoot so early?

Claims that he thinks he was needed to shoot. It's a difference.

Something I noticed: the name of the dead player was colored gray! But earlier ppl talked about Mario's name being purple and my name is purple also and I win with town also!

What if town are irregular colors used in FM (like from neutrals) and evil are regular colors?

More stuff with colors, so many people did it that its probably NAI

Twice, by Mischeiviousbposting their rolecard as vigilante and getting pissed off and claiming to shoot chubby, then showing eveidence

And the second time by mod-errors and Gobln claiming sk as doc in LyLo

What I was shot

Not this game

In 15E where you were stalker

Remember you sifted “rengar likes duskbalde” and Ryan was the only one to catch it

are you another eragon alt how do you know this stuff

Don't try to discover alts

Twice, by Mischeiviousbposting their rolecard as vigilante and getting pissed off and claiming to shoot chubby, then showing eveidence

And the second time by mod-errors and Gobln claiming sk as doc in LyLo

What I was shot

Not this game

In 15E where you were stalker

Remember you sifted “rengar likes duskbalde” and Ryan was the only one to catch it

are you another eragon alt how do you know this stuff

Don't try to discover alts

Don’t worry he’s just stupid


There’s a thing called reading
There’s a thing called the search function

Wait a second. You joined ToS last month?! Welcome to the game btw. Do you like it and stuff?

Also why are ppl still voting Chaos? The only important msges from Chaos I saw where showing town motivation instead of being scummy

Edit - I guess you mean ppl in that game are stupid? But in what way is that a reason to be mean and burning other ppl's strategies?

Because it stops people from being stupid
*looking at Kosmo, Olly, and Mario here*

Theres a good reason

Also this soft wk’ing of my slot looks a bit ???
I mean obviously FMPOV he is defending town, but he hasn’t given any reasons except “his important posts are towny” so I don’t find it to be that strong and defensive?

Well ppl defended ppl for less

I think Mario is town. Also Chubby is misspreading information. Gonna follow Mario on this.

/vote Chubby

Trying to put shade on Chemist first and next on Mario. Change my mind why this isn't a good target.

@non do you have an example game of Chubby playing as scum?

Why is Mario town?
What misinformation is chubby spreading?
>following Mario LMAO
“shade” /=/ oh hey you were the dayvig ha gottem

I think Mario is town. Also Chubby is misspreading information. Gonna follow Mario on this.

/vote Chubby

Trying to put shade on Chemist first and next on Mario. Change my mind why this isn't a good target.

@non do you have an example game of Chubby playing as scum?

whats the mis-spread information so we can chubby


and what shade on chemist???


and there was no shade on Mario, Mario is just scum

First saying dayvig is evil and next says Chemist is dayvig is indirect shade, right?

And Chubby says random things and stuff that make no sense and I see other ppl take it serious so that's spreading misinfo

And isn't saying Mario is scum sort of a shade?

eh I dont think he was super serious about chemist being dayvig?

"saying random things and stuff that make no sense"
is it even possible to be less vague?

Saying Mario is scum is literally saying Mario is scum, not shade…

Catchup in no particular order:
No.

No.

What the frick are you even thinking?

You stole my wagon.

Why is Mario getting voted?

Vote: kosmo16

Why are we talking about this...

Chaos is town.

Mario is probably also town.

Good comment 10/10 starting comment. I think Albanix is town just because of starting comment

why does this feel sarcastic/not serious but still attempting to put it out there
Basically im saying that it was TMI

Catchup in no particular order:
No.

No.

What the frick are you even thinking?

You stole my wagon.

Why is Mario getting voted?

Vote: kosmo16

Why are we talking about this...

Chaos is town.

Mario is probably also town.

Good comment 10/10 starting comment. I think Albanix is town just because of starting comment

Your ability to convey your townness is admirable

I know I'm pro. I also was mislynched day 1 last two standards that shows my pro-ness

/vote Phone0Ix

hero vote

Why me. You only quoted one post from me

uh didnt you call my slot/kha/olly town in your very first post without reasoning???

I never was asked to give reasons. TheWabbit was.

/vote Phone0Ix

hero vote

Why me. You only quoted one post from me

Also how is it a hero vote if you vote town

this feels forced and an afterthought

Afterthought =/= scum right? All roles could have an afterthought.

its amazing how many people are honestly this stupid this game

Calling people stupid won't help you. I told you I don't care about your color. I was wondering about your mindset and you are not Town. Instead of calling me stupid you would anawer my questions.

If you guys think Chaos is Town, say it. Otherwise just vote him.

/vote Chaos

no thanks, Phone0Ix is spicier
My vote just outed them as scum

You still didn't even put a reason except for me being nice to Chaos?

You're being soo overdefensive just because I left a vote? Noted.

You're the one answering your own questions here. Look at how you responded to my vote. Textbook scum.

I'm defensive because you just refused to put a reason

is it different to townread someone with no reason than to sqcumread someone with no reason?

If you are asked to give a reason and still don't, yes, it's different.

who is a hypocrite now?

SP

Also, I think scum has REALLY OP roles. 3 dead ppl now had nerfed Bulletproof, buffed ToS Crusader and buffed Vigilante+Jailkeeper combo. 2 very OP roles and 1 weak role. I'm scared...

bish wat

However:

'You may place a fuse on a player each night phase, the first time your target is attacked on the same night your fuse will detonate and kill their attacker.'

This is from the rc from Ziggs. 'a fuse on a player each night phase' it never says you only have one fuse. It just says your target and your fuse, but nothing says you can't protect other people after that moment.

So it's a nerfed Bulletproof that only lives 12 hours longer
A nerfed Jailkeeper that can protect 2 on 5 nights probs (1 player each day, +2 assuming 1 visitor most of the time, +1 for a visitor on you, = 20 furies in 5 nights)
And a buffed Crusader

I think we can safely assume the mafia is a true danger.

I dont even see how you reached this conclusion based on one of the roles being strong and 2 of the roles either not having an impact or being weaker.

the citizen one literally is barely worthless except to have a confirmed town for <12 hours

the jail keeper one is much worse than regular

I still don't get how Phone gets vigilante from shyv's rolecard

Well their rolecard said they could basic attack. A ToS Vigilante is equipped with basic attacks and is able to kill, let's say, a Mafioso.

Idk why host decided to confuse us by giving a role a basic attack that actually does nothing.

blames the host lmao

Wabbit, I already said I forgot it when I wrote that post! If you read my ISO, you would've seen you are either blind or scum. If you read the chat, you would have seen you are either blind or scum.

Why? I wrote it like 1 page later!

This might be OMGUS but you are lieing alot and searching for proper accusations that don't exist while you say I can't put a proper defense. Remember yesterday? You just REFUSED to put reasons!

Also @spretznatz make sure to also read the posts after the 'infamous post of the scaring of the other townies' that is soooooooo misguiding information and sooooooooooo scummy.

/vote TheWabbit

ok wtf.

overdefensive, sarcastic, OMGUS-y, what more is there?
mis-information, lying, hypocrisy?

this is the first time i checked Phone0Ix's ISO

their "scum is powerful" bullshit ranges back from d1
so it's a recurring mistake?

I never said it day 1. Look, that's an example of one of your lies.

you did say it Day 1, as I just pointed out.
Look, now its You who is lying

That was a joke like I mentioned it earlier.

have to get off my laptop now ill try to finish the rest on mobile

Reactions in bold. Comments without a reaction are defenseless, you made a fair point

[FMLSheWas12]

Anyway as I'm only in one Fm atm I can try and be more active.

Sorry for being passive finding it hard to be motivated

Oh yeah this post also does not suffice adequate contribution. I'll give you until the end of the phase.

Votecount V2.06

Current Vote Count

Player	Votes	Voters
	#	Votes Until Majority

[Chemist1422]

OGGERS:

tp if you're reading this poggers needs to be a new emoji

[Phone0Ix]

SP

Also, I think scum has REALLY OP roles. 3 dead ppl now had nerfed Bulletproof, buffed ToS Crusader and buffed Vigilante+Jailkeeper combo. 2 very OP roles and 1 weak role. I'm scared...

Odd assumption given that we have no idea what abilities scum have.

/vote Phone0Ix

I don''t think you read the whole post

"town roles have been weak or tweaked so far"
"holy shit mafia has an edge they have powerful roles"
"scum has op roles"

tell me more

This is also proof you lied earlier. You missed me saying the thing about the basic attack but this shows you DID SEE it. How would you know I said multiple roles were nerfed? In this post, I just said one was nerfed, because I misunderstood the other. You said you missed that post, but here you show you didn't.

Caught you on a second lie.

Uhh 1 was nerfed, 1 was nothing, 1 is strong
Ok?
I don’t see how this means that Wabbit lied?

He acted in another post like he never saw the thing about basic attacks (Or one of his accusations was invalid, which he kept saying was true, so that would mean he missed the basic attack thing)
However, his msg says 1 was nothing, which was only said in the basic attack msg! Not mentioned in this one. I only talked about 2 buffed roles in this one because I misunderstood one. Let me citate 'buffed Vigilante+Jailkeeper combo'. How could he deduce from that words I thought it was nerfed? Not.

[Chemist1422]

Phone, you've conceded that most of Eragon's points are correct, yes?

[Phone0Ix]

Phone, you've conceded that most of Eragon's points are correct, yes?

Like 50% of them, yes. But that doesn't mean I'm scum. I know I'm town and I still made those posts not thinking they would be scummy.

Also, if anyone is going to ever accuse me of overdefensive even more this game:
When I wasn't overdefensive, I got ML'd twice for not defending enough. It's just like no matter what I am ALWAYS suspected. If you want to read a town game of mine, just select a ended game I played in; I was town in all games I played.

[Chemist1422]

Phone, you've conceded that most of Eragon's points are correct, yes?

Like 50% of them, yes. But that doesn't mean I'm scum. I know I'm town and I still made those posts not thinking they would be scummy.

Also, if anyone is going to ever accuse me of overdefensive even more this game:
When I wasn't overdefensive, I got ML'd twice for not defending enough. It's just like no matter what I am ALWAYS suspected. If you want to read a town game of mine, just select a ended game I played in; I was town in all games I played.

Do you have a general retort?

[Phone0Ix]

Phone, you've conceded that most of Eragon's points are correct, yes?

Like 50% of them, yes. But that doesn't mean I'm scum. I know I'm town and I still made those posts not thinking they would be scummy.

Also, if anyone is going to ever accuse me of overdefensive even more this game:
When I wasn't overdefensive, I got ML'd twice for not defending enough. It's just like no matter what I am ALWAYS suspected. If you want to read a town game of mine, just select a ended game I played in; I was town in all games I played.

Do you have a general retort?

Retort??? What does that mean?

[Chemist1422]

Phone, you've conceded that most of Eragon's points are correct, yes?

Like 50% of them, yes. But that doesn't mean I'm scum. I know I'm town and I still made those posts not thinking they would be scummy.

Also, if anyone is going to ever accuse me of overdefensive even more this game:
When I wasn't overdefensive, I got ML'd twice for not defending enough. It's just like no matter what I am ALWAYS suspected. If you want to read a town game of mine, just select a ended game I played in; I was town in all games I played.

Do you have a general retort?

Retort??? What does that mean?

Counterpoint.

[Phone0Ix]

Phone, you've conceded that most of Eragon's points are correct, yes?

Like 50% of them, yes. But that doesn't mean I'm scum. I know I'm town and I still made those posts not thinking they would be scummy.

Also, if anyone is going to ever accuse me of overdefensive even more this game:
When I wasn't overdefensive, I got ML'd twice for not defending enough. It's just like no matter what I am ALWAYS suspected. If you want to read a town game of mine, just select a ended game I played in; I was town in all games I played.

Do you have a general retort?

Retort??? What does that mean?

Counterpoint.

Idk

[Phone0Ix]

Should I claim btw? I'm on L-3 with 3,5 hours on the clock

[ChubbyMooshroom9]

Yea

[Phone0Ix]

I am asking if I'm allowed to claim my full role, wait a sec

[Soulshade55r]

Should I claim btw? I'm on L-3 with 3,5 hours on the clock

That's a good idea

[Phone0Ix]

Role name: Cho-Gath

This is what I can:

Everyone knows how town of salem janitor works, right? Well see mine as Janitor combined with Medium.

Every night, I select a person. If they die, I'll clean them. HOWEVER I can speak with them for one day and one night if I clean them.

Once I die, all cleaned ppl would be uncleaned.

[ChubbyMooshroom9]

:think: