[Newcomer FM] NFM59 | Mafia Wins [Mathematics]

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[Newcomer FM] NFM59 | Mafia Wins [Mathematics]

Postby Veeena » Thu Aug 02, 2018 9:38 pm

Newcomer Forum Mafia


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General Rules:

  1. Be respectful. Should be self-explanatory. No tolerance against racial/homophobic/sexist remarks. If you feel this rule isn't being followed, send the moderator in question a PM.
  2. Do not discuss the game outside of the thread unless otherwise stated. If you have a question about this, ask the mod.
  3. Do not quote any messages from / conversations with the moderator. If you have a question about this, ask the mod.
  4. Do not gamethrow. "Gamethrowing" means actively trying to undermine your, or your faction's, chances of winning.
  5. If you are inactive for more than 36 hours, you will receive a prod, and have 18 hours to reply. If you do not reply within 18 hours, you will be removed. However if your posts are found to not actually try to include content to futher the game, they will not count towards resetting the prod timer. Said content is evaluated under the moderator's discretion. You will be told if your post is valid or not.
  6. Quoting and then editing another player's post for the purpose of misleading is prohibited. Editing to simply cut down the post content to what is relevant is allowed.
  7. Any breaking of the above rules will be treated on a case by case basis - some will receive a warning, while others might result in higher punishment.
  8. Be sure to look at ObiWan's Rules for more info, some of the rolecards that will be used and the ECO if you don't know how a situation is handled.
  9. Lastly, If you have any questions, feel free to ask the moderator. We'll be glad to answer any doubts you may have.


Role Pairings
Spoiler: Town Investigative: (Investigator/Sheriff/Lookout)
Town Protective: (Doctor/Bodyguard/Marshal)
Town Killing: (Vigilante/Veteran)
Town Support: (Medium/Escort)
Town Citizen: (Citizen)

Mafia Head: (Godfather)
Mafia Tactical: (Mafioso/Blackmailer)
Mafia Support: (Consigliere/Consort/Agent)
Mafia Deception: (Framer/Janitor/Disguiser/Prankster)

There will never be more than one Mafioso.
There are two random towns, and only one can be citizen.
The random town can also not be a Town Killing role (Vigilante/Veteran).


Invest Results
Spoiler: Citizen/Godfather
Sheriff/Marshal/Mafioso/Disguiser
Escort/Doctor/Consort/Prankster
Lookout/Bodyguard/Vigilante/Blackmailer/Agent
Investigator/Veteran/Medium/Consigliere/Janitor
Framer


Sheriff Results

Spoiler: Town and Godfather: Your target is not suspicious!
All other Mafia: Your target is a member of the Mafia!
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM59 | SETUP

Postby Veeena » Thu Aug 02, 2018 9:44 pm

Role List

Town Investigative
Town Protective
Town Killing
Random Town
Random Town
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen


Godfather
Mafia Tactical/Support
Random Mafia



Playerlist
  1. TheLukundo - Citizen
  2. Jalandh Zee235 (2prod) - Consort
  3. CrimsonLemures - Veteran
  4. eimeara - Citizen
  5. Parallax7 Jebediah - Godfather
  6. Chemist1422 - Prankster



Graveyard
The name M4xwell
  1. FoxOfTheVoid - Lynched Day 1 (BodyGuard)
  2. TheWabbit - Killed by Mafia N1 (Lookout)
  3. ZzFifthElementzZ - Lynched Day 2 (Citizen)
  4. JulianDeBeste - Killed by Mafia N2 (Citizen)
  5. frop418 AzureIridescence - Killed by Veteran N2 (Escort)
  6. 0verki11 - Lynched Day 3 (Citizen)
  7. Kears123 - Killed by Mafia Day4/End Game (Citizen)

Timeline of Events:
Day One Begins
Night One Begins
Day Two Begins
Night Two Begins
Day Three Begins
End of Game


ISOs
Veeena [Host]

Zee235 Jalandh
0verki11
TheLukundo
Kears123
CrimsonLemures
TheWabbit
eimeara
FoxOfTheVoid
JulianDeBeste
AzureIridescence frop418
Jebidiah Parallax7
ZzFifthElementzZ
Chemist1422
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM59 | SETUP

Postby Veeena » Thu Aug 02, 2018 9:46 pm

Introduction and Mechanics


First of all, welcome to NFM. Some of you have already played before, while others are brand new, so I'll try to keep this simple.
Forum Mafia, or FM in short, is a game about deception between the two main factions: The uninformed majority (town) and the informed minority (mafia) duking it out. Logic, mind games, etc. are all part and usual of mafia.

Town and Mafia both have pretty straight-forward win conditions: eliminate the opposite team. While the mafia has the opportunity to kill periodically, the town cannot rely on their own killing roles to win the game - for that, they must vote to kill a player by "lynch".

The game is divided in two phases: the Day, and the Night.

  • Day is when the players post on the game thread, discussing about what happened during the night, other players and who should be voted for the lynch. The days last 120 hours (5 real-life days) and lynches are allowed, these which will occur after the majority has been reached. To vote, just post "/vote PlayerNameExample". When a player reaches majority, they are automatically lynched, there is no trial phase. When a player is lynched, they are immediately removed from the game, with their role being shown to the public.

    **Plurality is enabled in this game. This means that majority vote is not required to lynch. Under plurality, the player with the most votes is lynched at the end of the 120 hour day. If multiple players are tied for the most votes, RNG will decide who gets lynched. Keep in mind, that if majority is reached on a player, the day will end early with that player getting lynched.**

  • The latter is a 48-hour period where any player who has a night action may use it. **During this phase the Mafia privately talks on their mafia chat. After the 48 hours are over, all actions are carried out, and the personal results of this phase shall be privately messaged (PM'd) to each player.

**There are no whispers present in this game.
**There are no last wills or death notes in this game.
**Jailor may not roll in this set-up.


The game will only end once one of the major factions fulfills their condition.

PM Protocols
When sending me (Veeena) the information below, make sure one of the following is in the subject line:
For sending me Night actions or whatever, include "NFM59" in the subject line, it would also help if you included "Night Action" for your actions

Mafia Killing Revamp is in play: Meaning - Any member of the Mafia may sacrifice their night action to make the factional kill at night.
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Terminology

General terms:
Role Card: The PM which contains the player's role, alignment and abilities.
Hard Claim: Directly stating one's own role on the game thread.
Soft Claim: Hinting one's role without explicity stating it. For instance, saying "there are alot of people that are more important than me" may imply that you are softclaiming citizen. Make sure you have a plan in mind before attempting this.
Counter Claim (CC): Making a claim which directly contradicts someone else's. E.g Player A hardclaims Citizen, but Player B is a Lookout who saw them visiting, so they hardclaim and bring up their evidence.
Fake Claim: Claiming a role which is not their own's. E.g When a mafia member is demanded to hardclaim, they almost always fakeclaim instead.
Scum/Scummy: Scum is the name given to any role which doesn't win with town, and needs to be eliminated for town's win condition. Being scummy means adopting a behaviour which doesn't line up with the behaviour expected from a town member.
Confirmed: Being 100% confirmed as a certain [role]/[alignment].
No Lynch: Instead of voting for a player, you may also "/vote No Lynch". If majority reaches on a No Lynch, no player is killed. A No Lynch will also occur when the amount of time for the Day phase is over and majority hasn't been reached. No Lynching is, the majority of the time, benefitial to scum, so aiming towards it is generally scummy.
Reads/Reading: The read you have on a player is the conclusion about their alignment and/or role through their posts or other factors. If player X posts things that look like their a mafia member, you have a scumread on them!
WIFOM: WIFOM is the circular reasoning that results from trying to determine the choices of an opponent who acted with full knowledge that their behavior would be subject to scrutiny. For instance, if you think player Y wouldn't kill Z because Z townreads Y, but then realize that may well be a reason that Y would kill Z: to make people think Y isn't a mafia member, you've stumbled on WIFOM. Tread lightly.
Mislynch: An incorrect lynch on a town member.
Tunneling: Solely focusing on a player and their posts, ignoring others. Often considered scummy.
Game Throwing: Playing against your win condition with the intent of making your own faction lose. Extremely subjective term not to be taken lightly.
Plurality: Lynching without majority. The player with the most votes gets lynched at the end of the day. RNG determines who gets lynched in the event of a tie. Reaching majority causes the day to end early with that player getting lynched.


Slightly more uncommon terms:
FoS - Finger of Suspicion. Putting the Finger of Suspicion onto a player means that one is calling that player scummy and saying that other players should keep an eye on that player. [Alt. Hand of Suspicion (HoS)]
LyLo - Lynch or Lose. A stage in the game where town must lynch scum or they lose. See also: MyLo.
MyLo - Mislynch and Lose. A stage in the game where if town mislynches (lynches town) and the Mafia make a kill town loses.
PoE - Process of Elimination.
OMGUS - "oh my god you suck". An acronym used to describe retaliatory actions such as votes. Ex: voting a player because they voted you citing the reason "because they are stupid".
PbPA - Post by Post Analysis. Analyzing a player's posts in succession, typically associated with ISO.
ISO - Isolation. Looking at a player's total posts in a game, in succession.

For a more complete list, feel free to look here.

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Playing as Town

While Mafia can talk strategy during the night, the town needs to use the day phase to discuss and figure out who is and isn't town as well. What can you do, then?
Try to look for posts that feel scummy, ask and answer questions other players have made, try to see which intentions a player has behind their posts, be active and post what you think of other players regularly. Avoid plays which could benefit scum instead (e.g Hardclaiming for no reason, fakeclaiming), and try your best to think for yourself - it's a common mistake to follow blindly whatever other players have to say.
Townies have no reason to lie and should never do it, in NFM. Spotting a lie can be almost as sure as spotting a mafia itself.

And be sure to read ObiWan's guide about playing as Citizen.

Playing as Mafia

As scum, you should play exactly like you would as town - be active, post reads, try to look productive, etc. The difference here are your goals: Hiding information, misleading the town and stalling out long enough until they no longer outnumber you. This means appearing as scum-hunting, but in actuality pushing for a mislynch by questioning, false reading and trying to depict a player as scum. However, keep in mind that if a teammate is acting undeniably scummy and their lynch looks like the right call, try not to oppose it too obviously - or it could be tracked back to you.
And remember: you are a team, and thus communication is essential. Try to talk over every situation so you can plan in advance.

**Mafia can use their chat during the day in this game! Use it wisely!**

FM Academy has further guidance to playing scum.

Golden Rules:
Don't claim Neutral.
Don't claim Mafia.
Don't be inactive.
Remember what your goals are at all times.
Don't panic if you commit a mistake, but try to work your way around it.
Have fun. It's a game, after all.

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If you ever feel anxious playing FM, like I do every single time I play, look at yourself and realize things aren't so bad. As long as you are having fun it's always worth it. Don't be scared to post.

For anything else, feel free to ask me in a PM, or in the thread, or take a look at the FM Main Hub.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM59 | Confirmation Phase

Postby Veeena » Thu Aug 02, 2018 10:05 pm

Rolecards will be sent to the players now. Please reply with /confirm once you get the rolecard. You have 24 hours to respond ro else a replacement will be needed.

Edit: All rolecards have been sent. You have 24 hours to respond back. Players who have done so will be bolded in rolelist.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM59 | Confirmation Phase

Postby Veeena » Fri Aug 03, 2018 10:09 pm

theycmrollin and TofuDaDwagon have not responded to their confirmations and will be replaced.

Zee235 will be replacing theycmrollin.

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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM59 | Confirmation Phase

Postby Veeena » Sat Aug 04, 2018 2:00 pm

Veeena wrote:theycmrollin and TofuDaDwagon have not responded to their confirmations and will be replaced.

Zee235 will be replacing theycmrollin.



TheWabbit will replace TofuDaDwagon

Game will start at 5:00PM EST.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM59 | Day One | Nullified

Postby Veeena » Sat Aug 04, 2018 3:36 pm

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Day One Begins. You have 120 Hours.
Day One will end August 9th, 2018 at 5:30pm EST (17:30).
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM59 | Day One | Nullified

Postby TheLukundo » Sat Aug 04, 2018 3:37 pm

Cheers!
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM59 | Day One | Nullified

Postby TheLukundo » Sat Aug 04, 2018 3:38 pm

/vote Zee235

You’re welcome, honey(!)
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM59 | Day One | Nullified

Postby Chemist1422 » Sat Aug 04, 2018 3:41 pm

    I want to play this game as a bot
    gl
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM59 | Day One | Nullified

Postby TheLukundo » Sat Aug 04, 2018 3:43 pm

Chemist1422 wrote:
    I want to play this game as a bot
    gl


Can we lynch you?
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM59 | Day One | Nullified

Postby Veeena » Sat Aug 04, 2018 3:43 pm

Current Vote Count
Player Votes Voters
  # Votes Until Majority


Not Voting: 0verki11, Zee235, Kears123, CrimsonLemures, TheWabbit, eimeara, FoxOfTheVoid, JulianDeBeste, Jebidiah, ZzFifthElementzZ


Countdown until day ends.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM59 | Day One | Nullified

Postby Chemist1422 » Sat Aug 04, 2018 3:43 pm

TheLukundo wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
    I want to play this game as a bot
    gl


Can we lynch you?

    If you like
    This is a pain to do on mobile
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM59 | Day One | Nullified

Postby TheLukundo » Sat Aug 04, 2018 3:45 pm

AzureIridescence wrote:Hi everyone!
/vote TheWabbit

They seem to be the most experienced player here so it is probably best to make sure that we can get a read on them early.


You’re way too smart and now I wanna vote you!
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM59 | Day One | Nullified

Postby TheLukundo » Sat Aug 04, 2018 3:48 pm

TheLukundo wrote:
AzureIridescence wrote:Hi everyone!
/vote TheWabbit

They seem to be the most experienced player here so it is probably best to make sure that we can get a read on them early.


You’re way too smart and now I wanna vote you!


OOOOOOIR You’re Mafia and you’re trying to get a smart Townie our the way quickly.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM59 | Day One | Nullified

Postby Chemist1422 » Sat Aug 04, 2018 3:48 pm

TheLukundo wrote:
AzureIridescence wrote:Hi everyone!
/vote TheWabbit

They seem to be the most experienced player here so it is probably best to make sure that we can get a read on them early.


You’re way too smart and now I wanna vote you!

    boi
    You should probably know my votes will be in the normal format


/vote VoidFox
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM59 | Day One | Nullified

Postby TheLukundo » Sat Aug 04, 2018 3:49 pm

Chemist1422 wrote:
TheLukundo wrote:
AzureIridescence wrote:Hi everyone!
/vote TheWabbit

They seem to be the most experienced player here so it is probably best to make sure that we can get a read on them early.


You’re way too smart and now I wanna vote you!

    boi
    You should probably know my votes will be in the normal format


/vote VoidFox


WAIT YOU’RE ACTUALLY PLAYING!?!?!?
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM59 | Day One | Nullified

Postby Veeena » Sat Aug 04, 2018 3:50 pm

ISOs have been added. (Thank you chicken from the sky that did it for me).
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM59 | Day One | Nullified

Postby Chemist1422 » Sat Aug 04, 2018 3:52 pm

TheLukundo wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
TheLukundo wrote:
AzureIridescence wrote:Hi everyone!
/vote TheWabbit

They seem to be the most experienced player here so it is probably best to make sure that we can get a read on them early.


You’re way too smart and now I wanna vote you!

    boi
    You should probably know my votes will be in the normal format


/vote VoidFox


WAIT YOU’RE ACTUALLY PLAYING!?!?!?

    This isn’t an actual bot
    Read 10D
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM59 | Day One | Nullified

Postby TheLukundo » Sat Aug 04, 2018 3:53 pm

Chemist1422 wrote:
TheLukundo wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
TheLukundo wrote:
AzureIridescence wrote:Hi everyone!
/vote TheWabbit

They seem to be the most experienced player here so it is probably best to make sure that we can get a read on them early.


You’re way too smart and now I wanna vote you!

    boi
    You should probably know my votes will be in the normal format


/vote VoidFox


WAIT YOU’RE ACTUALLY PLAYING!?!?!?

    This isn’t an actual bot
    Read 10D


...You mean you’re asking me to go and look another game so I can understand an inside joke? Zzz
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM59 | Day One | Nullified

Postby Chemist1422 » Sat Aug 04, 2018 3:55 pm

TheLukundo wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
TheLukundo wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
TheLukundo wrote:
AzureIridescence wrote:Hi everyone!
/vote TheWabbit

They seem to be the most experienced player here so it is probably best to make sure that we can get a read on them early.


You’re way too smart and now I wanna vote you!

    boi
    You should probably know my votes will be in the normal format


/vote VoidFox


WAIT YOU’RE ACTUALLY PLAYING!?!?!?

    This isn’t an actual bot
    Read 10D


...You mean you’re asking me to go and look another game so I can understand an inside joke? Zzz

    You don’t have to read all of it
    Just DioBot/Varanus’s ISO
    It’s pretty funny
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM59 | Day One | Nullified

Postby TheLukundo » Sat Aug 04, 2018 3:56 pm

Fuck this I’m bored and I’m gonna do summat I shouldn’t but I claim Town Power Role.

/unvote
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM59 | Day One | Nullified

Postby Zee235 » Sat Aug 04, 2018 3:58 pm

Who wants to read players with me!
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM59 | Day One | Nullified

Postby TheLukundo » Sat Aug 04, 2018 3:58 pm

Zee235 wrote:Who wants to read players with me!


Why with you?
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM59 | Day One | Nullified

Postby Zee235 » Sat Aug 04, 2018 4:00 pm

TheLukundo wrote:
Zee235 wrote:Who wants to read players with me!


Why with you?

I am just asking if anyone wants to create content (which I will do)
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