16B: Change of Pace | Game Over (Town win)

[UzayAltay]

Mafia had a good run, shame it had to end on this note honestly

Which note ?

[RAmcius]

why do you guys retrained into disg instead of Janny?

I think it was to make Dapo look Town to TIs cos of what happened D1

what TIs? it won't help against sheriff, invest autoguilty (framer/disg result)

Invest is not autoguilty ( he can change self with A town )
But useless against Sheriff , and only TI was Sheriff .

that requires to know role of person you switching with, or you can't fakeclaim

[UzayAltay]

why do you guys retrained into disg instead of Janny?

I think it was to make Dapo look Town to TIs cos of what happened D1

what TIs? it won't help against sheriff, invest autoguilty (framer/disg result)

Invest is not autoguilty ( he can change self with A town )
But useless against Sheriff , and only TI was Sheriff .

that requires to know role of person you switching with, or you can't fakeclaim

They could keep changing with their kill target .
Or , they would just change with Jalandh .

[SamuelJackson1972]

At least I didn't get mislynched, lol.

[RAmcius]

why do you guys retrained into disg instead of Janny?

I think it was to make Dapo look Town to TIs cos of what happened D1

what TIs? it won't help against sheriff, invest autoguilty (framer/disg result)

Invest is not autoguilty ( he can change self with A town )
But useless against Sheriff , and only TI was Sheriff .

that requires to know role of person you switching with, or you can't fakeclaim

They could keep changing with their kill target .
Or , they would just change with Jalandh .

kill target doesn't work, you can't know what night you were checked, so you have sit on same person/role for the rest of the game. Is it worth?

[UzayAltay]

why do you guys retrained into disg instead of Janny?

I think it was to make Dapo look Town to TIs cos of what happened D1

what TIs? it won't help against sheriff, invest autoguilty (framer/disg result)

Invest is not autoguilty ( he can change self with A town )
But useless against Sheriff , and only TI was Sheriff .

that requires to know role of person you switching with, or you can't fakeclaim

They could keep changing with their kill target .
Or , they would just change with Jalandh .

kill target doesn't work, you can't know what night you were checked, so you have sit on same person/role for the rest of the game. Is it worth?

Wait , You are right . So , The best thing seems change self with Jalandh Till Game .

[Gooose26]

I fakeclaim escort as mafia

BS fakeclaims escort as mafia

People somehow don't see the pattern

Addition : Also You claimed Same Roleblock for Night 2 .
And BS seems believed You after your claim .
AND Even I showed that , Nobody still believed BS is scum .

Looking back I feel fumb for that xD

[Gooose26]

Evil kind of fucked it up at the end with the flip flop with Gooose/Samuel situation. I didn’t keep attention to the game after I died much, but he was Scum imo from that.

Yes , it was The Last mistake he Did , even though it probably havent changed The situation much . I would just waited Goose came , sees that , and hammer . Than Goose brings -noobtown /scum thing , I was thinking hammer is coming .
Than Goose Said 71 hour .
You cant even guess my feelings at there .

I wasn’t planning to do that, I just wanted them to post their defenses rather than tell me to hammer lol

[UzayAltay]

Opinions on changed Roles :

Vigilante : Couldnt be able to shoot succesfully , but not A bad change Overall I think .
Doctor : We cant see The effect of change . I Dont think it is A bad change .
LO : We cant see The effect of that , but If 2-3 PR claims would come from Mafia each Game , I can easily see it is still useful .
Medium : I can see Why it is not wanted to speak with players , but it seems A bit Weak , Especially when it's power is directly connected with dead TI's .
The way I see to Buff it is be able to seance with Mafia and Neutrals as well , but only take The results which is not connected with their role ( SP , RBed , Doused , Witched , healed by doctor , guarded by Bodyguard )
Any opinion on This ?
Marshall : Buff seems good .
BMer and Prankster : Buff seems good , especially Prankster . Now , Prankster would always make town think about it , even about Transporter claims ( 2 Prankster is possible ) I want to see This Prankster at future games , too
Set-Up : Seems A bit scumsided ( Yes , I know Town Wins , but How ? Sheriff find 2 scum , witch lynched with A CFD . Town Walked on The tightrope to win This , and I am not sure We havent fallen when walking .) , but not too much ( even though town made misplays , and walk on The tightrope , at The end town Wins ) I am giving Scum % 51 Chance for future games , so Set-up is mostly balanced .
Roll 6 TK next time

[UzayAltay]

And Why BMer is unique ?

[UzayAltay]

Schultz Spreadsheet is Wrong I was Killed N8 not Goose

[CrimsonLemures]

Ayyyy I won, glad I could be of some assistance in my first game. (Also now I wish I went with my gut on n3 cause I thought I would live so it would be fine )

Was your gut me?

Of course, (but I wanted to not be a butt and do it mostly off waganomics, like you had other reasons to be checked but when it came down to it for me it was mostly about who pushed what.)

[UzayAltay]

I still dont understand.

why I was lynched D4.(or D5 I forget) becuase
1. I white knighted obvious town lynchbait
2. I knew chemist was going to flip vigi, it was so damn obvious that they softed vig.
3. no one even put a case out except "your wrong, your scum"

and how did kmenx get lynched after I died Lmao.
he should've been spewed clear from me.

I relooked for look that .
You choosed The Worst moment to push me , and probably with A The Worst way . If You hadnt pushed , both lead wagons was town , and probably either Jalandh or me was lynched . With your push , You allowed me to save myself out of The situation with best situation .
About 3. Noone had A case on somebody , and at This situation , The most important thing generally be Last posts and voters . And You was lynched Because of that . The voters on me was scumread , and Your Last posts wasnt towny .
Also was I right about You ? ( choosed The posts You want )

[Eragon1329]

I still dont understand.

why I was lynched D4.(or D5 I forget) becuase
1. I white knighted obvious town lynchbait
2. I knew chemist was going to flip vigi, it was so damn obvious that they softed vig.
3. no one even put a case out except "your wrong, your scum"

and how did kmenx get lynched after I died Lmao.
he should've been spewed clear from me.

I relooked for look that .
You choosed The Worst moment to push me , and probably with A The Worst way . If You hadnt pushed , both lead wagons was town , and probably either Jalandh or me was lynched . With your push , You allowed me to save myself out of The situation with best situation .
About 3. Noone had A case on somebody , and at This situation , The most important thing generally be Last posts and voters . And You was lynched Because of that . The voters on me was scumread , and Your Last posts wasnt towny .
Also was I right about You ? ( choosed The posts You want )

no you were not.

everything I said at EoD 4 was truthful.
(although kinda truthful with ulterior motive, like WK'ing chemist)

[UzayAltay]

I still dont understand.

why I was lynched D4.(or D5 I forget) becuase
1. I white knighted obvious town lynchbait
2. I knew chemist was going to flip vigi, it was so damn obvious that they softed vig.
3. no one even put a case out except "your wrong, your scum"

and how did kmenx get lynched after I died Lmao.
he should've been spewed clear from me.

I relooked for look that .
You choosed The Worst moment to push me , and probably with A The Worst way . If You hadnt pushed , both lead wagons was town , and probably either Jalandh or me was lynched . With your push , You allowed me to save myself out of The situation with best situation .
About 3. Noone had A case on somebody , and at This situation , The most important thing generally be Last posts and voters . And You was lynched Because of that . The voters on me was scumread , and Your Last posts wasnt towny .
Also was I right about You ? ( choosed The posts You want )

no you were not.

everything I said at EoD 4 was truthful.
(although kinda truthful with ulterior motive, like WK'ing chemist)

At least I feeled right about You being scum .
I really want A 6th sense Award , Because I feel scums First , Than read them , lol .

[chitownmvp01]

Killing Uzay is the perfect way to frame me considering he just made a whole post saying to lynch me no matter what.

If Uzay was alive, you would've been lynched no matter what you said. That is why you got rid of him, it was your only chance to win.

This was the only post I read in this game and I immediately knew that Evil was scum after reading it. I was also in this exact situation and chose correctly in F3 with this logic in a MU game a few weeks ago, so....yeah.

If I was in Evil's position, I leave Uzay alive and try to convince people that the Mafia left Uzay alive so they can sheep him on Evil.

[chitownmvp01]

gj gooose and sam

[UzayAltay]

Killing Uzay is the perfect way to frame me considering he just made a whole post saying to lynch me no matter what.

If Uzay was alive, you would've been lynched no matter what you said. That is why you got rid of him, it was your only chance to win.

This was the only post I read in this game and I immediately knew that Evil was scum after reading it. I was also in this exact situation and chose correctly in F3 with this logic in a MU game a few weeks ago, so....yeah.

If I was in Evil's position, I leave Uzay alive and try to convince people that the Mafia left Uzay alive so they can sheep him on Evil.

It wouldnt Work Because I would vote ED The moment Day starts , and Unless they decided to lynch me after I find , mainpushed 3 scum , there is no way to break that ( Ties arent Rand'ed as I know ).

[EvilDeanius0]

Goose scum read you though, I thought about killing Sam and trying to push you, I don't really know why I didn't.

[Gooose26]

Killing Uzay is the perfect way to frame me considering he just made a whole post saying to lynch me no matter what.

If Uzay was alive, you would've been lynched no matter what you said. That is why you got rid of him, it was your only chance to win.

This was the only post I read in this game and I immediately knew that Evil was scum after reading it. I was also in this exact situation and chose correctly in F3 with this logic in a MU game a few weeks ago, so....yeah.

If I was in Evil's position, I leave Uzay alive and try to convince people that the Mafia left Uzay alive so they can sheep him on Evil.

Sam vs Evil was pretty clearly TvS, meaning that I would've been killed and then Evil would've been left with Uzay who is going to vote ED and Sam who was going to vote ED.

[Gooose26]

Goose scum read you though, I thought about killing Sam and trying to push you, I don't really know why I didn't.

The scumread was considering Veeena as scum, when Veeena was lynched I considered Uzay as confirmed town

[chitownmvp01]

Killing Uzay is the perfect way to frame me considering he just made a whole post saying to lynch me no matter what.

If Uzay was alive, you would've been lynched no matter what you said. That is why you got rid of him, it was your only chance to win.

This was the only post I read in this game and I immediately knew that Evil was scum after reading it. I was also in this exact situation and chose correctly in F3 with this logic in a MU game a few weeks ago, so....yeah.

If I was in Evil's position, I leave Uzay alive and try to convince people that the Mafia left Uzay alive so they can sheep him on Evil.

Sam vs Evil was pretty clearly TvS, meaning that I would've been killed and then Evil would've been left with Uzay who is going to vote ED and Sam who was going to vote ED.

Evil leaving both Uzay and Sam alive could be viewed as dumb and could mislead town into thinking that Mafia was setting up an Evil ML.

[BasicFourLife]

i have a curse of getting lynched as the most important town role TPow/TK

[BasicFourLife]

i have a curse of getting lynched as the most important town role TPow/TK

lynched d1 specifically*

[TheWabbit]

i have a curse of getting lynched as the most important town role TPow/TK

lynched d1 specifically*

maybe it's time to make things right