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Re: 8M | OCTOPATH | Day 5 | Hornburg Ruins

Postby Swordsworth » Fri Aug 24, 2018 12:43 pm

Naru2008 wrote:
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https://www.mafiauniverse.com/wiki/Cannoneer

My understanding is that Cannoneer wouldn't be in this game.


It's a sword's wet dream role. I suspect it's the GF.

We really should have asked for specifics on this rolelist.


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Re: 8M | OCTOPATH | Day 5 | Hornburg Ruins

Postby Rickdaily12 » Fri Aug 24, 2018 12:45 pm

Turd, if Rock is Town and there's a Framer, lynching me now doesn't save you from anything, either. That makes us TvT and that virtually forces us to lynch both.

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Re: 8M | OCTOPATH | Day 5 | Hornburg Ruins

Postby Rickdaily12 » Fri Aug 24, 2018 12:46 pm

I just really don't understand why Poison blocked Naru. :|
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Re: 8M | OCTOPATH | Day 5 | Hornburg Ruins

Postby enderitem » Fri Aug 24, 2018 12:50 pm

Metrion wrote:Really activates my cerebral coconuts.

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/wiki/Cannoneer

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Re: 8M | OCTOPATH | Day 5 | Hornburg Ruins

Postby RockFire » Fri Aug 24, 2018 12:52 pm

Met, Cannoneer being a thing would make sense flavor wise due to Octopath allowing you to do multiple actions in a turn. Just a thought.

Poison being Witch is dumb because who do you explain their RBs? Also, the reason I've been saying there's a prot in this game is because I have abilities of every alignment and just having a one shot body Double is weak in that sense.

Rick, what have you done this entire game besides your claim? Because I guess you just decided to pick two Town reads and just say they were different to lead MLs because Mafia obviously wasn't doing it and got unlucky. The master plan was probably to just claim Framer after 2 MLs and use sheer personality to strong arm you to not get lynched.

You can't get out of this one because I've made a situation where you're going to get lynched either way just like I planned. Although I assumed you were hit last night and no longer had immunity because of how Witch works but clearly that's not the case.

Also, the idea of Cannoneer spooks me. But it being MH would mean it would be invest immune which is really strong as it can't be found. If you assume it exists, then it would be a regular Mafia role because that sounds busted if it's invest immune. Either way, it seems likely if neither kills were stopped by Town actions.
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Re: 8M | OCTOPATH | Day 5 | Hornburg Ruins

Postby RockFire » Fri Aug 24, 2018 12:53 pm

Last night meaning N3, not this night, N4, because words are hard.
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Re: 8M | OCTOPATH | Day 5 | Hornburg Ruins

Postby Rickdaily12 » Fri Aug 24, 2018 12:59 pm

Stop trivializing my claim. Stop lumping it up and shrugging at it. Because unlike you, I put my ass on the line, and had to fight pretty much ALL OF DAY 3 despite your pestering, Mel's pestering, and everyone else who questioned it. I had to bet my credibility that Mel was really Mafia and all day I got doubted.

Then yesterday, you did this too. "What have you done besides your claim-"

THAT CLAIM IS MY PROOF, YOU JERK. Because unlike you, I don't care how many times I get spat at, I keep my claims when I've found scum and that's that. Also, how the fuck was Mel town after the way she handled herself all of Day 2 and refused to vote Lex? No, I didn't just pick two Town reads and swing. My parity cop is legit and I have never budged on it since making it.

Also, I'm L-2, for the record.

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I wasn't shot on Night 3, either. That doesn't even add, you think there's three vigilantes? Turd's bullet went to Obi, and you're claiming one went to me, so I'm not Witch either if you think I was shot on Night 3.

Geez Rock, do you even listen to yourself?
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Re: 8M | OCTOPATH | Day 5 | Hornburg Ruins

Postby Metrion » Fri Aug 24, 2018 1:00 pm

Naru2008 wrote:
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Metrion wrote:Really activates my cerebral coconuts.

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/wiki/Cannoneer

My understanding is that Cannoneer wouldn't be in this game.


It's a sword's wet dream role. I suspect it's the GF.

We really should have asked for specifics on this rolelist.


Probably.

Today is another dome, pretty boring. This also means Ender isn't Witch.
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Re: 8M | OCTOPATH | Day 5 | Hornburg Ruins

Postby Rickdaily12 » Fri Aug 24, 2018 1:00 pm

And actually, that's a good point.

Everything I have done has been met with heavy resistance.

Even now, my lynch? No resistance.

So what, Rock, you think the Mafia's plan was to bus Mel first, then bus me now?
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Re: 8M | OCTOPATH | Day 5 | Hornburg Ruins

Postby RockFire » Fri Aug 24, 2018 1:06 pm

To be fair, I can't perfectly explain your Parity Cop claim because it doesn't really make sense to do as Witch but that's all you can be at this point because you're a liar.

Also, I was assuming you got hit by Mafia because where else did it go with Nhero flipping Town? It had to have hit someone that was townread and killing you made sense as Mafia for a going in play.

So I shot you assuming you were immune and I was right. I was just wrong about the 1 shot shield so either you're night immune as a passive or the Cannoneer is a thing.

Also, I chalk that up to paranoia on everyone's part.
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Re: 8M | OCTOPATH | Day 5 | Hornburg Ruins

Postby Metrion » Fri Aug 24, 2018 1:07 pm

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Re: 8M | OCTOPATH | Day 5 | Hornburg Ruins

Postby Rickdaily12 » Fri Aug 24, 2018 1:09 pm

RockFire wrote:To be fair, I can't perfectly explain your Parity Cop claim because it doesn't really make sense to do as Witch but that's all you can be at this point because you're a liar.

Also, I was assuming you got hit by Mafia because where else did it go with Nhero flipping Town? It had to have hit someone that was townread and killing you made sense as Mafia for a going in play.

So I shot you assuming you were immune and I was right. I was just wrong about the 1 shot shield so either you're night immune as a passive or the Cannoneer is a thing.

Also, I chalk that up to paranoia on everyone's part.

So I'm an unlimited shield Witch who would fake claim Parity cop and completely suicidal to die and lose everything this game.

Right. Oh, and you shot me completely expecting me to be immune.

:|

Right.

Or, you're scum, and probably Witch yourself unless shenanigans. To be fair, mechanically I just don't think you can be Mafia given what I know, because at least I know when something's too farfetched to push something.
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Re: 8M | OCTOPATH | Day 5 | Hornburg Ruins

Postby Rickdaily12 » Fri Aug 24, 2018 1:13 pm

Again, Rock, the only way you can be Town in my eyes at this point is if Poison is actually Witch and I picked two scum during my copping. If I'm not notified of a protecting, maybe that's how I slept peacefully last night. Is that how Marshal works?

I don't think you were framed when you're claiming a bullet shot at me, even if I don't think Poison's acting like the way an Escort should, but that's a whole other different problem to tackle right now.
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Re: 8M | OCTOPATH | Day 5 | Hornburg Ruins

Postby Arcthurus » Fri Aug 24, 2018 1:15 pm

I slept peacefully. I'll comment on stuff later.


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Re: 8M | OCTOPATH | Day 5 | Hornburg Ruins

Postby RockFire » Fri Aug 24, 2018 1:17 pm

I shot you expecting you to die and flip Witch Rick.

Either you are night immune fully because of how this was 13v4v1 or the role Met brought up exists and they've been stocking kills. Regardless of which scenario this is, you're immune right now either way so it hardly makes a difference.

Again, Poison being Witch is not a thing that makes sense at all. You're just setting up your fall back in case I get lynched and everyone sees the truth of my role.
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Re: 8M | OCTOPATH | Day 5 | Hornburg Ruins

Postby Rickdaily12 » Fri Aug 24, 2018 1:22 pm

RockFire wrote:I shot you expecting you to die and flip Witch Rick.

Either you are night immune fully because of how this was 13v4v1 or the role Met brought up exists and they've been stocking kills. Regardless of which scenario this is, you're immune right now either way so it hardly makes a difference.

Again, Poison being Witch is not a thing that makes sense at all. You're just setting up your fall back in case I get lynched and everyone sees the truth of my role.

Or, I'm a parity cop and I'm trying to explain to myself this situation in a way that makes sense.

Every other role so far has flipped typically vanilla, and I can't be Witch here with what I've pulled, Rock, so you're on the wrong path here.

Anyway we can go back and forth forever, but I'd really rather not, it's not productive anymore. We don't have to convince each other the other is Town given our claims. If we're both Town I think we accept that we've just straight up lost.
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Re: 8M | OCTOPATH | Day 5 | Hornburg Ruins

Postby RockFire » Fri Aug 24, 2018 1:28 pm

Typically Vanilla in a game where there's standard and nonstandard roles as given by the OP.

Also, my point isn't to convince you I'm town. With what I got as my results today, I'm here to get you lynched because I know you're scum but if you don't want to dome when the options are lynch me or you, that's just ???.

Either way we're waiting for everyone to check in before we do anything because that's a thing to do. You're also at L-3 not L-2 because we're 10 people and the majority of that is 6, not 5.
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Re: 8M | OCTOPATH | Day 5 | Hornburg Ruins

Postby Swordsworth » Fri Aug 24, 2018 1:49 pm

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Re: 8M | OCTOPATH | Day 5 | Hornburg Ruins

Postby Arcthurus » Fri Aug 24, 2018 3:14 pm

enderitem wrote:WAIT ROCK, YOU WERE THE ONE THAT SHOT RICK!?!


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RockFire wrote:Yes Max, I do think that's what's happening.

And Ender seemed about to tell me I was doing something dumb but you've already decided to say I'm scum so you're a liar even if Ender claims the reason my shot failed was him.

I was just going to say congratulations, remarkable play to confirm your suspicions.


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Veeena wrote:I accept that I fucked up with my reads there and accept the lynch sacrifice.

I truly am Citizen but I fucked up enough to be removed. gg


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Naru2008 wrote:First.

So I was roleblocked last night, and felt a sinister presence.

Interesting night, to say the least, especially with no kills.


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RockFire wrote:So it's time to come clean with everything my role can do. I'm Therion, a JOAT that has 4 abilities of each alignment of Support, Protective, Killing, and Investigative.

My investigative ability was obviously the two shot Parity Cop.

My support ability is that I can commute and no actions will be able to target me that night.

My protection ability is a body Double for someone.

My killing ability is a one shot Vig shot.

I saw the Nhero flip and knew someone had to have been attacked from the very town group of Met, Arc, Rick so I used my Vig shot last night to shoot Rick because of my paranoia and how I surmised he must be the Witch and he was attacked last night. I was notified I slept peacefully and it failed ergo Rick is night immune and a scummy boy.

I rest my case.


Rickdaily12 wrote:Okay, my life is easy today then. I slept peacefully, I was not attacked last night.

Rock is different from Poison. I wasn't going to bull rush him in case she was lying about being Escort, but that's clearly not the case here.

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Re: 8M | OCTOPATH | Day 5 | Hornburg Ruins

Postby Arcthurus » Fri Aug 24, 2018 3:52 pm

Metrion wrote:
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Metrion wrote:Really activates my cerebral coconuts.

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/wiki/Cannoneer

My understanding is that Cannoneer wouldn't be in this game.


It's a sword's wet dream role. I suspect it's the GF.

We really should have asked for specifics on this rolelist.


Probably.

Today is another dome, pretty boring. This also means Ender isn't Witch.


How so?

TP being controlled a second time means YOU're clear from Witch to me because you'd expect him to have no third shot due to no guilt; I recall that being a vig rework you proposed. Do me a solid and say stuff so I can sheep you.


I'm thinking about a couple of things right now but I'd rather wait and see from Poison/Jerme first.


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Re: 8M | OCTOPATH | Day 5 | Hornburg Ruins

Postby RockFire » Fri Aug 24, 2018 4:20 pm

It's time for thinking walls everyone.

There's 10 of us left alive so I'm just going to try and figure this out. I'll leave out Rick for obvious reasons.

Me, TP, and Posion have claimed and I don't think Posion is lying because that's a dumb.

That leaves 6 people where the Mafia are in:

Met
Arc
Ender
Jerme
Max
Naru

Narrowing this down is rather simple because of my checks and interactions.

Met and Ender being Mafia seems super unlikely as I've stated before. Arc and Max cannot be anything but MH. Naru was the counterwagon for scum D2 so he's out.

That only leaves Jerme as the only possibility of being the non invest immune Mafia.

Obviously MH is between Max and Arc.

I don't think Met would bus Consort D2 and I don't think Ender could be anything Mafia related at all this game. Anyone have anything to add to this?
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Re: 8M | OCTOPATH | Day 5 | Hornburg Ruins

Postby Metrion » Fri Aug 24, 2018 4:36 pm

Because we have the Witch dome, Arc. I don't think either of them can be mafia.

Both of them literally had to dome today if either was Witch. If Rick is Witch then his play makes zero sense as it's sacrificial and he wants to live as Witch. Same couldn't be said about Rock until today when he revealed his shot which I assume gave him a specific immune response. The difference is Rick had a clear choice to not make that gambit where Rock kind of has to.
Point - Neither

Rock's claim however is very believable, if it's a fakeclaim then Rock did his homework and the hidden rolelist as a stroke of luck panned out in his favour. Perhaps this shows forsight and is a reason to suspect Rock's claim but I think it is not. Rick has a claim, and it's possible however the list doesn't lend itself much to helping with that claim as Rock's does.
Point - Rock

Beyond that day play over the last 2 days has been dismal because a mix of space between activity and most lynches just being set for the days. Rock felt more town D2. Something to read again maybe.
Point - Rock I guess


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Re: 8M | OCTOPATH | Day 5 | Hornburg Ruins

Postby Arcthurus » Fri Aug 24, 2018 4:44 pm

They were weird, kind of like he knew Rock targeted Rick and was about to claim. Of course with him voting Rick now that's probably out of the window.


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Re: 8M | OCTOPATH | Day 5 | Hornburg Ruins

Postby Metrion » Fri Aug 24, 2018 4:49 pm

Arcthurus wrote:They were weird, kind of like he knew Rock targeted Rick and was about to claim. Of course with him voting Rick now that's probably out of the window.

What is this in response to?
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Re: 8M | OCTOPATH | Day 5 | Hornburg Ruins

Postby Arcthurus » Fri Aug 24, 2018 4:52 pm

Metrion wrote:
Arcthurus wrote:They were weird, kind of like he knew Rock targeted Rick and was about to claim. Of course with him voting Rick now that's probably out of the window.

What is this in response to?


"bickering"


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