8M | OCTOPATH | Game Over | Town Wins!

[TurdPile]

Can we eternally block Nhero while we lynch our leads?

If you want to eternally block a cit sure.
Keep in mind witch will get to make tp shoot someone though.

Or will it

[Metrion]

Can we eternally block Nhero while we lynch our leads?

I was told any mafia can choose to kill

This would force the second Maf member to stop their action though.
Was anyone alse apart from Nhero roleblocked?

I'd rather leave one mafia left so our Escort becomes a Cop. On the chance Nhero flips GF we auto-win because we have too many game solving role claims. Especially since we aren't sure what the other mafia is 100% and they could have no action anyway.

I don't think anyone else claimed blocked which makes me believe Prankster is on the mafia team.

[Jerme]

@Ender: When were you sure that there is a Medium? YOu previously talked abotu a possible one and then suddenly stated that there actually IS one? (checked your ISO). Sadly the thread-search didn't found any post containing "Medium" in this topic for some reason.

[Metrion]

@Ender: When were you sure that there is a Medium? YOu previously talked abotu a possible one and then suddenly stated that there actually IS one? (checked your ISO). Sadly the thread-search didn't found any post containing "Medium" in this topic for some reason.

Thread search is broken in FM.

[Jerme]

Thanks Met. Do you have anything to add to the questions I've asked?

[Metrion]

Thanks Met. Do you have anything to add to the questions I've asked?

No.

Do you agree with my earlier response to you?

[Jerme]

Well, you had the same opinion as me, when I responded to TurdPile, so I would.
This thread seems to get more and more dead, which is pretty much bad.

[RockFire]

Oh hey, Met, while you're here, I have something that has been bugging me that lead me to the whole Rick thing.

I still don't understand why a framer or deception role wouldn't exist if this game has a cop or parity cop since with what we know from night results points away from it.

[RockFire]

Also, /unvote

I think I have something important to discuss with everyone because I get the uneasy feeling we're going to get screwed if I don't. Everyone just can we discuss the Framer thing I asked Met because if two cop roles exist then if they lived to endgame, Town could find every single scum sans GF easily.

[Jerme]

Does a MH exist that has a framing ability? Could it be that one made a Framer the MH?

[RockFire]

No MH exists that can frame anyone from what I remember. Capo and GF are the standard for MH and Gent's rolecard strongly implies we have a GF and we know Framer isn't the second Mafia role from the night results we got yesterday and today narrowing it down to Mafioso or Prankster. That would mean Mafia would lack an investigative role and a deception role in a closed game where Town has a very large majority.

[Metrion]

Oh hey, Met, while you're here, I have something that has been bugging me that lead me to the whole Rick thing.

I still don't understand why a framer or deception role wouldn't exist if this game has a cop or parity cop since with what we know from night results points away from it.

Consort and Godfather would mean balance wise a framer wouldn't have to exist.

[RockFire]

Then another question to everyone. I think everything I have done will become clear if I can explain everything because I suppose my insistence on this point is enough that I longer feel comfortable going into tonight without saying what I know.

[Metrion]

No MH exists that can frame anyone from what I remember. Capo and GF are the standard for MH and Gent's rolecard strongly implies we have a GF and we know Framer isn't the second Mafia role from the night results we got yesterday and today narrowing it down to Mafioso or Prankster. That would mean Mafia would lack an investigative role and a deception role in a closed game where Town has a very large majority.

I mean technically Capo can retrain to frame.

Given that Mel flipped Hustler, I think all other mafia members have an active ability meaning no standard GF. Otherwise Mafia would have a member not performing an action D1.

[Metrion]

N1*

[enderitem]

Honestly I think the Witch is Ender

Dansgame, explain!?! My profile looks nothing like a Witch. I gathered way too much attention to myself during D2. If Lex was actually Escort, I would look way too scummy after that mislynch and wouldn't have survived for long if I was checked by the Parity Cop (whom I believed to exist) considering I would be different from literally every single player in the game. If I somehow knew Lex was Consort, why would I get him fucking lynched for no reason whatsoever instead of working with Mafia here!?! Doing this would make me just a huge target for a night kill and waste the time of me and Mafia. It doesn't make sense for me to be scum and I busted my ass to gain that position.

Jerme, I just saw your question to me today but I really can't tell where you are going at. What do you wish to gain from that conversation and why today out of all times? Can you quote my posts for those?

Can Mafia have the actual JOAT in this game? That might balance things out and work with mel's role.

Rick being Mafia makes no sense imo. I think him clearing out Poison with a confirmed Townie is the surefire way of proving that.

[Metrion]

Seems like I struck a nerve.

The inactive person you pushed, whom you weren't even a deciding vote for. I'm not sure how you look the scummiest of the wagon. Especially since you wanted to seem torn over the vote. I'm not even going to get into you thinking Parity Cop existed with zero evidence, and then doubted Rick's claim the next day.

Why is your second point you arguing from the PoV like you knew Lex was Consort as Witch. Means nothing, absolute waste of words.

The bar for "nothing like witch" must be extremely low for you is what I must say.

[RockFire]

Met, I think you're barking up the wrong tree for who the Witch is because I think have an idea of who it is.

[RockFire]

Spoiler:

Okay so I'm at like page 20 ( literally that's how far behind I genuinely am and I'm so sorry y'all like I shoved a week's worth of cleaning into two days with a sick toddler I've basically not been here since Tuesday ) and I'm just going to throw together a quick read's list based on my thoughts right now.

town
TurdPile
Rickdaily12
ObiWan
Metrion
Arcthurus
RockFire

something
enderitem
Veeena
NheroArconix
PoisonMaid

not town
Naru2008
Jerme
Arckas

Also I find this reads list just before Rick called out Mela. I doubt she'd be trying to bus people when she hasn't been called out.

[enderitem]

The inactive person you pushed, whom you weren't even a deciding vote for. Especially since you wanted to seem torn over the vote.

How am I not the deciding vote for the guy, I started his wagon and then I hammered it! Of course I would be torn over when it comes to the second vote, GUY CLAIMED ESCORT ALL OF A SUDDEN LIKE TEN MINUTES BEFORE END OF DAY!

I'm not even going to get into you thinking Parity Cop existed with zero evidence, and then doubted Rick's claim the next day.

Why should I not? He was literally one of my highest scumreads at the time for obvious reasons alongside mel. Of course, I would have a hard time believing the guy considering the real TI might have been hiding instead.

Why is your second point you arguing from the PoV like you knew Lex was Consort as Witch. Means nothing, absolute waste of words.

The bar for "nothing like witch" must be extremely low for you is what I must say.

Because I am trying to include every possibility in your argument that is bullshit? Call it low all you want, it still surpasses your MMR bracket.

[RockFire]

Yo ding dongs, stop TvTing because you're both Town nerds.

[Metrion]

>I hammered
>Lex got lynched by plurality

Really does me the big think.

[enderitem]

>I hammered
>Lex got lynched by plurality

Really does me the big think.

Fuck, I thought I did it when I checked. Anyway, thanks for pointing out yet another technicality that doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. I still was the one that got him to that position to begin with, why are you denying this all of a sudden?

[RockFire]

Ugh, screw it because I'm done with you two arguing when I think both of you are Town and I'm fairly

So, here's why I've been on Rick since he claimed. I wasn't lying yesterday when I claimed.

Spoiler:

I actually am a JOAT with several abilities and one of them is a two shot Parity check and I backed off from Rick yesterday by saying it was a reaction test because I saw Mela as not having a Town reaction and backed off without a very good explanation because I thought Rick's anger at the time seemed genuine and I got super unsure halfway through if I was screwing us all over by basically CCing Rick.

I know for a fact that one of the Mafia can't be Prankster and is likely a Mafioso is because my roleblock yesterday was real. Hence why I've been saying Mafioso/Prankster this entire time. I used my N1 Parity Cop on Arc because I thought he would be a likely candidate to be night killed, hence why I pushed that theory when originally questioning Rick on his claim. I tried targetting Poison N2 but was roleblocked but that wouldn't stop my results from showing up if it was a prank and I still had the ability to use it last night. The mela flip got me to buy Rick was Town so I figured that maybe he'd check Poison so I checked Max since I figured it'd tell me about his interactions with Nhero but I got a same result which is why I've been saying Max can only be Citizen or GF.

The reason why I've been pushing Rick is because this would mean 3 roles existed that could have been investigating and checked a total of 6 people if they were all different by D3 and that seems too overpowered for Town even with the argument of how it's closed and we don't know how powerful the other factions are. The ender and mela checks are way too convenient and when I thought everything over yesterday I realized there's no reason Rick is Town if I exist because of that so either he bussed as Mafia or he's Witch that got contacted somehow like BMer to get into a position of high town cred.

Literally the only thing he's done to be town is his claim and nothing else points to it. Everything is too convenient and too well and I don't buy the yelling and anger or the whole thing where the closed role list is the reason why there can be so much power in the entire town if I exist while Vig, Escort, Prot, Cop, Parity Cop, and Inno Child are also in the game. Max and Nhero claim Cit so they're either lying or not which means that's 5 citizen slots. Nothing adds up so I'm more confident in this than I ever have been in anything this game because it logically makes sense.

/vote RickDaily12

[enderitem]

My confusion is immesurable and my reads are ruined.